Verryn Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 If 3500 health is not enough, what do you think it should be? Please remember that mods will effect this health so don't say anything crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caernarvon Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) With 3500 HP it's going to burst in literally one burst of enemy fire, if that. Rhino's Iron Skin works because he's a smaller target that moves fast. A big static bubble with 3500 Hp is just, no. Edited February 5, 2014 by Caernarvon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemges Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Doesnt anybody care about more efficincy and faster cast for avalanche resulting in more dmg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 If 3500 health is not enough, what do you think it should be? Please remember that mods will effect this health so don't say anything crazy. Do please remember thats a % based increase which won't be much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxcloudxox Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I understand and agree with the change to snowglobe. (mostly there is still a part that doesn't like it but ill get over it), however I would like to know if the new HUD will show health remaining of the snowglobe (and other affects like Ironskin) If so I have no problems with the idea. The numbers may need tweaking, but that is easy and impossible to tell until its tried out. The other two power changes seem like strict upgrades so I have zero complaints there. It probably won't show you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Give snowglobe 50000 hp at max and no duration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackgu4rd Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I disapprove of the Snow Globe nerf in its current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Doesnt anybody care about more efficincy and faster cast for avalanche resulting in more dmg? Or reducing Avalanche strength is increasing freeze duration. With that you can have permafreeze effect on mobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaokasalis Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 As a matter of fact I did and none of the other "changes" are actually changes, if you play Frost you know freeze has always been like the fireball, avalanch isnt changing its still going to be AoE freeze and Ice wave is staying the same SO why dont you tell me How they are improving frost through a huge nerf to his number 3 ability, not to mention what are you going to hide behind on long defense missions. Have you ever tried bringing a Loki or Trinity for a defense mission? They can actually be quite good in the hands of the right players and they are improving frost by making his other skills at least a bit more viable. Putting health on snowglobe is a step in the right direction because it both gives other frames a chance to shine and makes the game more challenging. Not sure about you but i find it boring to be hiding behind a veil of invincible cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Doesnt anybody care about more efficincy and faster cast for avalanche resulting in more dmg? Other frames do that 100X better then frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsVampyre Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Guess all we'll see is chaos on defense missions now. I'm not sure what anyone was thinking, but nerfs remove player choice. May as well put away Frost and his new Nerfglobe and pull out Nyx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessWhite Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 That applies to all AOEs, you need to pay attention and cast smartly. If this is the reason then all 4th skills should be sped up. Mak please. At least try the other classes before hitting the reply button and digging a hole for yourself (again, sigh) Every other big AoE damage 4 is either much faster (1 second or less cast time) or applies some sort of CC to all enemies within the area within a decent range. Frost is alone with having both a lengthy 2 second + cast time as well as a paltry 15m range on his 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scar.Heart Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 With 3500 HP it's going to burst in literally one burst of enemy fire, if that. Rhino's Iron Skin works because he's a smaller target that moves fast. A static bubble with 3500 Hp is just, no. ...Is that really the HP they're putting on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Aeon Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ah damn gotta forma my 5 forma Frost Prime again. Sigh after all that happened I never thought it would come to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Have you ever tried bringing a Loki or Trinity for a defense mission? They can actually be quite good in the hands of the right players and they are improving frost by making his other skills at least a bit more viable. Putting health on snowglobe is a step in the right direction because it both gives other frames a chance to shine and makes the game more challenging. Not sure about you but i find it boring to be hiding behind a veil of invincible cover. You do realize that frost other ability's are complete crap compared to Globe ? Are you honestly saying you want a tank frame to put out damage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minaide Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 what if i cast 10 snowglobes? 3500x10?? 35,000 hp! That's not counting if i added focus mods! Frost will be greater at u12 with these buffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostBittenHero Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 What about ice wave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--MANA-- Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 more challenging than the duration type snow globe! +1 to this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)lsu4life86 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) or they could have made it that the snow globe is impenetrable or any mobs that enter it are automatically frozen until its broken or and mobs inside of it get a DoT applied oorrrr maybe when the globe is destroyed it does that same amount of blast dmg in a certain radius...10/15/20/25m Edited February 5, 2014 by (PS4)lsu4life86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobafetthotmail Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Snowglobe Health needs to be at least an order of magnitude higher. (ten times as much as the proposed HP) Even against mid-level mobs a maxed snowglobe won't last more than 10 seconds under serious fire. This is a BIG HONKING HUGE IMMOBILE shield, everything in the room is going to hit it 100%. I have to dodge and stay under cover constantly with a 1000+ shield Frost or I get nuked in 20 seconds, and you think 3000 hp are gonna cut it? ReallY? REALLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mampara Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 As well as Ice Wave? Buff as well, e.g. more like Oberon's Hollowed ground in terms of distance and more damage, idk I just love that ability and it would make my day seeing it being more viable. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhiasu Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Good job on the snow globe change. Now we just need the other inviciframe to have something like this *coughtrinitycough* Edited February 5, 2014 by Rhiasu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl_Facehugger Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 what if i cast 10 snowglobes? 3500x10?? 35,000 hp! That's not counting if i added focus mods! Frost will be greater at u12 with these buffs! Fighting from within that many globes is impossible due to whiteout conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 oorrrr maybe when the globe is destroyed it does that same amount of blast dmg in a certain radius...10/15/20/25m No. We don't need a mobile nyx absorb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaian-a-coel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) What if when the globe breaks it releases a HUGE AoE blast that slows based on distance. 90% slow at ground zero and 15% slow at its furthest point of influence and then the duration modding (that all frosts use) affects the duration of slow. /thread This is not how you /thread. "Snow globe is currently the only useful Frost power, buffing the others is welcome, but nerfing Snow globe into the ground and basically rendering it useless is not. In high level defence, where it shines, ennemies have too high of a DPS for 3500HP on a huge, stationary target to last more than two seconds. The community doesn't appreciate the nerf." THIS is how you /thread. I will say that I am glad that DE posted that BEFORE release, because if people found out in the patch notes, or worse, in game, the backlash would have been terrible. Now if you would be kind enough to withdraw that poorly thought-out """""""rework""""""" of snow globe, just like you did for the XP thing, that would be nice. EDIT: Fighting from within that many globes is impossible due to whiteout conditions. And lag. Two or three globes is already straining my computer and I can barely see anything. Edited February 5, 2014 by Kaian-a-coel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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