MDRLOz Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) It is possible that the problem with the Pluto super-rail is related to a part that the Corpus are unable to imitate, thus repairs are at a standstill while they research options. Just a thought. And rails take plastids because they're high in calories. The "Super-Rail" as you dub it was designed to take you beyond the solar system perhaps to another system, we don't know. However we do know the sentients don't seem to be lingering around the solar system right now and their is no sign of them. It would be a safe bet to assume they come from/currently are situated outside the solar system. We also know that the Orokin were losing the war and probably retreating at a point. Seeing as solar rails work both ways it was probably a stalling action by them sabotage the rail not just structurally but perhaps use void energy to disrupt the pathway the solar rial runs on. The goal was probably to keep the sentients out of the solar system or at least to stop them finding it, i.e. they were "burning the bridges" so they could not be reached in the origin system. So this rail is either really complicated or super damaged in ways the others were not (the intra-system ones probably just got damaged from lack of maintenance after the working died out). Edited June 3, 2014 by MDRLOz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The "Super-Rail" as you dub it was designed to take you beyond the solar system perhaps to another system, we don't know. However we do know the sentients don't seem to be lingering around the solar system right now and their is no sign of them. It would be a safe bet to assume they come from/currently are situated outside the solar system. We also know that the Orokin were losing the war and probably retreating at a point. Seeing as solar rails work both ways it was probably a stalling action by them sabotage the rail not just structurally but perhaps use void energy to disrupt the pathway the solar rial runs on. The goal was probably to keep the sentients out of the solar system or at least to stop them finding it, i.e. they were "burning the bridges" so they could not be reached in the origin system. Unfortunately a lot of these lore scraps are probably outdated into uselessness. Hard to tell how much DE will replace. The older the lore scrap the more likely that it no longer cuts it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) The Corpus have an Earth year or two to build that rail. Given the time taken to build our Solar Rails, the Corpus should have already finished their Solar Rail by now (accounting for extra time taken to stabilise/fix mistakes). "Build"? they were trying to fix a broken rail and the idea that it "should just be fixed" after a year is ridiculous. Like the idea that a car mechanic should be able to repair a crashed 747 in X amount of time, it simply might not be possible, maybe it relies on parts that can never make, etc etc. The Solar Rail system is an Orokin invention not a Corpus one, mostly they've simply been maintaining the existing system. Just because the Tenno have access to better construction facilities doesn't mean we understand the Rails any more that the Corpus. Also it's not like anyone has been able to replicate the core components of Orokin tech yet, people are still scavenging for their energy cells. Also Plastids are a source of nanites, useful for life-support and nano-scale maintainance Edited June 3, 2014 by SilentMobius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) "Build"? they were fixing a broken Rail and the idea that it "should just be fixed" after a year is ridiculous. Like the idea that a car mechanic should be able to repair a crashed 747 in X amount of time, it simply might not be possible, maybe it relies on parts that can never make, etc etc. Also it's not like anyone has been able to replicate the core components of Orokin tech yet, people are still scavenging for their energy cells. Also Plastids are a source of nanites, useful for life-support and nano-scale maintainance Ok, maybe the word 'Build' was chosen poorly, but with the Corpus endlessly scavenging for and researching about Orokin technology, some parts of the Solar Rail should have been fixed already (at least the structural parts). Edited June 3, 2014 by Renegade343 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrojiji Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The Corpus have an Earth year or two to build that rail. Given the time taken to build our Solar Rails, the Corpus should have already finished their Solar Rail by now (accounting for extra time taken to stabilise/fix mistakes). Did you guys watch Stargate Universe (at least the start when it was watchable)?! The amount of power required and the complexity of the calcullations for a successfull connection was proportional to the distance of the connection. I see Solar Rails similar Stargates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDRLOz Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately a lot of these lore scraps are probably outdated into uselessness. Hard to tell how much DE will replace. The older the lore scrap the more likely that it no longer cuts it. I dont know the actual only "old" piece of lore in all this is the Pluto solar rail being the rail that leads out of the solar system. Orokin losing war/getting desperate - Excalibur prime codex entry Solar rail leading to another star - Mag prime codex entry Outside the solar system - A recent Dev stream Another faction from outside of the solar system - A recent Dev stream Pluto being the location of the external solar rail is probably the oldest bit being Plutos description which has been forever: The shattered Outer Terminus of the Solar Rail Network is located here. The Corpus work to rebuild it. Also outer terminus just means the outer end of the railway. For all we know the corpus are just working on fixing the coffee and gift shops for the tourists. Edited June 3, 2014 by MDRLOz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm sure there is some complicated reason for it being busted so badly. Considering it is a rail leading to another system instead of a rail that helps get to locations within the current system I'd suppose it is a safe bet it is much more complex. The answer's quite simple - it's full of Tenno vandals that run around priming and stomping all the components when they do that mission. It's hard to repair delicate electronics when your spanner MOAs keep exploding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Also outer terminus just means the outer end of the railway. For all we know the corpus are just working on fixing the coffee and gift shops for the tourists. I want this to be canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muminidas Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The Origin System is essentially our Solar System, I presume Yup, in Warframe Solar System is called freakin' Origin System. Glad that the first post is the best answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiegraf Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Sounds like EA digital distribution software. Then the Grineer is EA and the Corpus is Valve? EDIT: And speaking of which, what has Plastids got to do with building a Solar Rail for us? Comfy Seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugerMK1 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It's the Origin system of a conflict that has shaped the galaxy. What began as a conflict over the transfer of conciousness from flesh to machine has devastated a million worlds... Oh wait a minute that's Total Annihilation I'm thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyfulmama Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It's a system of planets, from lore, should be where the Orokin came from, which is the Solar System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Comfy Seats We have no need of your comfy chairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashSpider Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Then the Grineer is EA and the Corpus is Ubisoft? Comfy Seats fixed I'm pretty sure though that the player ship will also relate to us going in and out of system's, as well. DE putting in lore little by little maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancore Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 About the mag prime codex entry everyone seem to be ignoring is that they mentioned the "void era", a time when they much more advanced tech but the sentience just consumed it. So maybe before the solar rails the Orokin used the void to travel between systems. Enter the solar rails. If i remember right way back when they introduced the void they said they where folding space when they entered the void, shortening the distance traveled through space and allowing for planetary/stellar travel. That tech rendered unusable the rails are a much lower tech way of traveling the vast distances between planets. Which would explain what the Corpus are looking for in the void, a means of fast travel and the lost tech they need to fix Outer Terminus and regain access to the rest of the old empire, to which they thing they are the true successors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSpax Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Didn't Alad V sent ships into the void? If solar rails function like void keys by using the same technique (bending time and space), the Corpus should be able to have the rails already fixed. Maybe they dropped the effort on this, for "more important" stuff and Tenno stealing all materials. Maybe they just lack materials only the Grineer own. Edited June 3, 2014 by Sypheal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Didn't Alad V sent ships into the void? If solar rails function like void keys by using the same technique (bending time and space), the Corpus should be able to have the rails already fixed. Maybe they dropped the effort on this, for "more important" stuff and Tenno stealing all materials. Maybe they just lack materials only the Grineer own. Don't the G3 come from out of system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Don't the G3 come from out of system? I don't think so. Where do you think it says that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I don't think so. Where do you think it says that? I may have misread it, but when they introduced them didn't Lotus say something about them being detected in system. Which is either me misreading it, it being badly phrased, or an indication that there is an out of system they come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I may have misread it, but when they introduced them didn't Lotus say something about them being detected in system. Which is either me misreading it, it being badly phrased, or an indication that there is an out of system they come from. "System" often refers to the cluster of missions surrounding a planet. For example, Tolstoj (Captain Vor's boss node) is in the Mercury system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Plot Twist, Orokin Put the origin system inside a normal space bubble within the void to escape oblivion. Going into void space is going into what is now currently normal space. We are fighting within a snowglobe and when all resources dry out, the bubble will collapse as with everything before it and DE will move on to another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwapplephobia Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 The Corpus on Pluto are actually trying to repair that Rail for use. And of course the Grineer own the Outer Terminus now. gotta love invasions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Omg.. that idea is amazing... *It's extremely effective* *A critical hit!* *PinkStarSR11 fainted* Edit: Sorry, I couldn't contain myself lol well there is the other solar system mentioned in Mag Prime's profile something about a purple sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Should be a similar, if not entirely the same, design, is it? Given that the Corpus are rather efficient in work, I would have thought they would have fixed and/or rebuilt the Rail already. And do you know the answer to why we need Plastids for building a Solar Rail? the difference between interplanetary and interstellar distances make it very likely that interstellar solar rails function on vastly different principles then the ones we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithf Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) "System" often refers to the cluster of missions surrounding a planet. For example, Tolstoj (Captain Vor's boss node) is in the Mercury system. Or could they be actually two use of the same words (with totally different meaning and scale). Planetoid/Sub-planetary system - the regions and satellites of a planetoid. What we see as nodes when we clicked on a planetoid will be this. Planetary/Star system - the system of planetoids other "space stuff" around a star(1 or more). The Solar System falls under this category (our star is Sol). the difference between interplanetary and interstellar distances make it very likely that interstellar solar rails function on vastly different principles then the ones we have now. The term "solar" in the solar rail may imply that it only applies (or serves) our system. Unless the interstellar ones are named solar just because it originates from there? Edited June 4, 2014 by smithf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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