achromos Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 He does NOT need his Vex armor to be toggle. Same with his Elemental Ward. His Ultimate and first need to be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanicx Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Okay i get your point when you say that chroma doesnt need a rework but the vex armor and spectral scream needs a push in the right direction rather have vex armor drain energy per second which come on is a great idea and have spectral scream get a nice buff cause it really does need it and to me the range on chroma E-ward needs an increase cause even with 169% range i have to literally &#! follow a guy to give him my buff. Yeah i know chroma is amazing i love him but the vex armor idea is an amazing one it makes him chroma and since u use effigy he will definetly need that extra armor and yes i also agree that effigy needs better energy efficiency but i love my vex armor and E-ward combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaver_X Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 chroma's effigy needs to be more efficient, maybe have duration effect its drain rate or something. HIs breath needs a buff too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadyRoad Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 i do agree. chroma stopped being relavent a long time ago. his vex armor is nice but compared to some other frames, just doesnt keep up and fails to scale + every other frame with abilites on his vex armors scale ALL have more utility then him +his 1 and 4 are trash on a stick. he needs a rework, NOT a buff but an entire rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 chroma seems to be in a pretty good place already though, outside its breath skill, makes him pretty far back on this list of frames that should get reworked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toppien Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 zephyr is the one who needs a rework more than any other frame, well maybe limbo, but seriously, the only revision she got,. and was to nerf her ¬¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrVonTuckIII Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 EW needs range. SS needs a buff. That's it. The other two are pretty good, although an energy drain mechanic on VA would be preferable over duration personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Spectral Scream needs a buff. Thats it. Vex armor and elemental ward are your buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraIngvir Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 i do agree. chroma stopped being relavent a long time ago. his vex armor is nice but compared to some other frames, just doesnt keep up and fails to scale + every other frame with abilites on his vex armors scale ALL have more utility then him +his 1 and 4 are trash on a stick. he needs a rework, NOT a buff but an entire rework. So, Vex Armor which can provide up to 98% Damage Reduction with a proper build, is 'failed-scaling'? Ha! Ha-ha! Ha! Only few frames can sustain a great deal amount of tankiness, and Chroma sits there on top just below Trin with just a consistent sustained Duration=Cost ratio. Now.. onto the topic. He's IMO in a great spot now. Though his 1 does need a good buff, a consistent 100% stats proc with higher DOT would be preferable. Effigy is already great, but good god decrease that efficiency cost, you can't properly sustain Effigy without it just ripping through your energy pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)U need 2 stop Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 The only things I could ask for chroma would be a slight energy cost drop for effigy, and perhaps some way to have his 1st and 4th scale better. I'll be honest though, those are desires, not needs. YES I AGREE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyEnneract Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 The ult should be able to hold position, or follow you around to take out enemies like specters. The breath needs some sort of buff, maybe using it with Effigy active can give it some benefits. Toxin overall imo needs an overhaul though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumblesMcphatty Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So - to review! Scream needs buffing by numbers or more interaction/utility. Ward seriously needs more range - it always did - Parkour 2.0 made it worse. Toxin is $hite and we all know it - before and after Stamina was removed. Effigy costs too much (maybe should add like uber-Sentinel?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Variatas Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Just give him the Ivara cycle effect, allowing him to change elements. Done. Chroma is now godlike. Oh man, that would be soooo much better than stupid "Energy Color determines element" gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casval_Rouge Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 There's 2 things I don't like about Chroma, but I wouldn't consider him to be one in high priority for a rework. 1. But Spectral Scream is definitely one that needs to be fixed. Garbage power. Slow, requires channeling, horrible damage, extremely short range, it shoots at the ground for no good reason. It needs to be buffed, and people have been saying that since he was added. Either DE go the lazy path and just buff its range and damage, or I want to see a rework. There's already plenty of suggestions over the months, and some in this thread as well. 2. Effigy is kind of weak for the drain. The problem with Effigy is you can't have a automated turret to be too strong, otherwise it is people can just AFK. But damage scaling is a problem. One way to remedy that is to give it a much higher status chance, giving it even better CC capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouhi Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Since the Frost/Saryn Rework everyone seems to want every other Frame to be reworked. Chroma is still in pretty good shape, he could maybe use some tweaks, but nothing serious like a full rework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Lol wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)wonderwoman814 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 i feel like chroma is fine where he is honestly. :C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I don't think he needs a rework, as much as a buff, I believe his EW range got nerfed hard, so bringing SOME of that back would be a good start, a damage and range buff to Spectral Scream would also help, and some new utility for Toxic Chroma, by far the least used Chroma Type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Please don't rework my Chroma. Or Loki. Nekros, go for it, that guy needs some love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanicx Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) So, Vex Armor which can provide up to 98% Damage Reduction with a proper build, is 'failed-scaling'? Ha! Ha-ha! Ha! Only few frames can sustain a great deal amount of tankiness, and Chroma sits there on top just below Trin with just a consistent sustained Duration=Cost ratio. Now.. onto the topic. He's IMO in a great spot now. Though his 1 does need a good buff, a consistent 100% stats proc with higher DOT would be preferable. Effigy is already great, but good god decrease that efficiency cost, you can't properly sustain Effigy without it just ripping through your energy pool. You are forgetting that although he has alot of armor not as much as valkyr but with her ulti she is literally a god so 98% damage reduction means nothing Edited December 13, 2015 by Vanicx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TunaMayo Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Chroma DOESN'T need a rework. Spectral Scream needs a buff. Thats it. Vex armour, E-ward and Effigy are fine. (And before anyone says anything, effigy IS good. Stick it in a chokepoint, or use it when picking up allies or distracting enemies, and you now have a floating tanky powerhouse that ISN'T effected by range, so you can easily sacrifice that to boost all 3 abilites) Whilst I agree that his scream is the only one that needs a rework, I will say that I would greatly appreciate a reduction in the cost per second. 10 energy per second is pretty dear, I know it can be reduced via mods but I still feel that for what it does, it doesn't deserve to cost a little over triple that of wukong and Ember's ults. Four times that of Valkyrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanicx Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 I have five forma in my chroma and all those who think valkyr is the better tank hasn't seen what over 14k in armor can do, and oh that's more armor then valkyr has. And those who say he needs a rework obviously have no clue how to use chroma the right way Yeah but chroma can't switch god mode on now can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You are forgetting that although he has alot of armor not as much as valkyr Literally 14k armor so 98% damage reduction means nothing And this is why people like you shouldn't talk about reworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You are forgetting that although he has alot of armor not as much as valkyr but with her ulti she is literally a god so 98% damage reduction means nothing You have absolutely no idea who chroma is do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer116 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) i think nekros needs a rework agreed. Edited December 14, 2015 by Slayer116 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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