(PSN)robotwars7 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 so I've spent several hours playing with the Buzlok, giving it plenty of Forma, and I wondered; why isn't this gun loved more? sure it's not the best crit or status weapon, but it has homing bullets! HOMING BULLETS! it literally allows you to kill heavy enemies without even being near them. just pop a dart on a bombard (not hard to hit them), head round the nearest corner and fire away! once I finally gave this gun a chance, it has proved itself quite well. I even killed Vay Hek with it! so am I the only one who wants to see the Buzlok get a little more love? maybe a Prisma Buzlok/ Buzlok Wraith? let me know your thoughts on the gun here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Quo_Tee Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Great to see someone else who is having a buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfScrugging Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 i think either a syndicate version (less likely since we're still waiting on syndicate melee) or a prisma/wraith would do it nicely. heck maybe even an augment would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurdyburd Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I think the general mindset of the community is to have a primary gun that kills everything, and then to have a power set that you can use to kill more dangerous targets. The buzlok isn't good at killing mass amounts of guys, so it's generally discarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's one of those weapons that I don't think is amazing damage-wise but still have a lot of fun with. Plus the sound is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Homing bullets are overrated if you know how to aim. If there were enemies that were hard to hit it might be better. The Buzlocks problem is that it has sub-par damage output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, LordOfScrugging said: i think either a syndicate version (less likely since we're still waiting on syndicate melee) or a prisma/wraith would do it nicely. heck maybe even an augment would help. that would be pretty cool 1+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sixty5 said: Homing bullets are overrated if you know how to aim. Plus you still have to aim that first shot anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof_Blocks_007 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'd say reduce the tag cost from 10 ammo to 0, and double or even triple the base damage. High damage output would be offset by its slow projectiles and somewhat heavy 'screen-shake' recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion112 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Actually, I don't like using it because there are other weapons that kill faster more efficiently. The Buzlok uses, what, 5 or 10 rifle ammo for the marking shot, and only then can you make use of its homing abilities. Seems weird to have less ammo efficiency, less damage efficiency, and less accuracy efficiency all on one weapon, especially when there are so many better alternatives that don't necessitate such a roundabout method of combat. I'd honestly use it more if the only thing that changed was that the marking shot didn't cost ammo to use, or at the very least it only used 1 shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrVonTuckIII Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Just now, Krion112 said: Actually, I don't like using it because there are other weapons that kill faster more efficiently. The Buzlok uses, what, 5 or 10 rifle ammo for the marking shot, and only then can you make use of its homing abilities. Seems weird to have less ammo efficiency, less damage efficiency, and less accuracy efficiency all on one weapon, especially when there are so many better alternatives that don't necessitate such a roundabout method of combat. I'd honestly use it more if the only thing that changed was that the marking shot didn't cost ammo to use, or at the very least it only used 1 shot. The point is that it's fun to use. Not that it's another Boltor Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfScrugging Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, PsychedelicSnake said: It's one of those weapons that I don't think is amazing damage-wise but still have a lot of fun with. Plus the sound is great. something i think about is looking at the SoTR update, DE went and rearranged planets by level and pretty much made it so endless missions aren't as desirable (draco/ void endless) pretty much the only real challenge players would bother running are sortie missions, i take it as it's more of a buff to mid tier weapons since there is actually alot of weapons that are perfectly fine at tackling the starchart missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tveeggad Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM BWOM There's nothing in this world that sounds as good as Buzlok. At least in the primary category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutzdes Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Buzlok has ok damage. The issue is in its inaccuracy, huge recoil, slow projectile speed. DE tends to "reward" weapons (with meh gimmicks) with huge downsides (Harpak, Paracyst, Buzlok, Convectrix, Hind). So, the disadvantages and clunkiness are not compensated by anything useful. Homing bullets are only good for killing some bullet sponges from safety. The thing is that with other weapons (sniper rifles) you would kill said enemy by the time you manage to properly land slow projectile beacon. Weapons with actually useful gimmicks have awesome raw stats mostly as well as some bonus cool features (Synoid Simulor, Quanta, Opticor, Tonkor, Jat Kittag, Soma, Boltor). This only adds to disparity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzaro21 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 if u ask me it could use a shot speed and damage buff, but heck it isnt a bad gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenreiter Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I absolutely love the Buzlok. It reminds me of how the Gorgon used to be way back, in the way it feels and sounds. That recoil is amazing, it kicks like a mule and I love it! However I use it rarely as it's sadly fairly underwhelming when it comes to damage. And I generally prefer shotguns and snipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastarov Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I put 6 formas on my Buzzlock back in the day, never regretted it. Forget the Boltor Prime: Buzzlock master race! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Literally only needs hitscan targeting beacons and I would pick it up and use it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icpmcp Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) I'd use it more if it didn't have this horrible sniper scope and making the tracker shot hitscan would be good too. Edited July 25, 2016 by Icpmcp hellodarknessmyoldfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXCrusnik Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Targeting shot isn't hitscan and takes a bunch of ammo to fire, missed targeting shots can also punish you by redirecting the bullets to inanimate objects that pose no threat to you (which makes the ammo cost of it worse). Damage isn't that great and it's accuracy/recoil makes it unwieldy to use without it's targeting shot. It just feels gimmicky for the sake of gimmicks and nothing else. Edited July 25, 2016 by AXCrusnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Probably didn't catch on at the beginning because the gimmick was fairly forced on release (before alt fire) and how many ammo it consumed just for the gimmick. It's a great rifle by itself but it has some quirks that really isn't necessary for this type of game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V3REiGN Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 The ridiculous recoil is the thing that I hate most about it. You can still see it even with stabilizer. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcusVeles Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 51 minutes ago, Prof_Blocks_007 said: I'd say reduce the tag cost from 10 ammo to 0, and double or even triple the base damage. High damage output would be offset by its slow projectiles and somewhat heavy 'screen-shake' recoil. I say make the scope target enemies like a codex scanner (point and hold, hitscan) then have it mark their headshot spot automatically for you. It'll be harder to mark with, but a lot more satisfying to use once you've successfully painted a target. Would be a great gun against bosses like Kril or Hek who you have to shoot in a particular spot, for instance. In fact, make a Simaris version of the Buzlok, and make it do exactly this. Gives Simaris scans, and murders enemies at the same time. Pls and ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)A_SimpleName Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Homing Bullet? Isn't that what Mag Magnetize is for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Ivan of Jupiter Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, LordOfScrugging said: i think either a syndicate version (less likely since we're still waiting on syndicate melee) or a prisma/wraith would do it nicely. heck maybe even an augment would help. Steel Meridian mod. 200-300% ammo capacity with the syndicate proc would be amazing. This gun is great, but there are better options with better ammo efficiency. Give this thing more bullets to play with and its set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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