ShadowHeartRoyalGuards Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hi, So I'm a new player and almost mastery rank 4. So I loved my Ether Dagger a lot and heard it very bad vs the Fangs. And I was wondering why? This is my Ether Daggers build if your wondering what it is: Sinking Talon(Max), North Wind (Unranked), Fury (Max), Berserker (Max), Molten Impact (Max), Pressure Point (Max), Energy Channel (Max), Blood Rush (Rank 3) ,and Heavy Trauma (Rank 3) + a Catalyst. Also I use Excalibur if you are wonder what warframe I'm using.(Btw I know that Excalibur Passive DO NOT work on the Ether Daggers) So can you guys explain how I can kill all factions level 35 enemies in 2 seconds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmongerExtraordinare Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 daggers are underpowered period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimop95 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Level 35 enemies can generally be killed quite quickly with most maxed mods. Try bringing them into a sortie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXRampantXx Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Because Fang does mostly Puncture, and ether does mostly slash, and everyone loses their ability to have opinions when they see Puncture damage on something. Also Fang Prime. And This: 2 minutes ago, DioBrandoTheHotVampire said: daggers are underpowered period This is very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieknife Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 because you can only obtain them once and after that you're screwed. so people who assumed they were mastery fodder cant get them every again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 First, remove berserker, blood rush, heavy trauma and energy channel, because they're next to useless on this weapon, replace them with full elements and any other utility mod like focus energy and a dual stat element mod, since the daggers are status weapons I personally prefer the dang prime because they look better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHatHacker Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Karyst is solid, but the class (and the dual-wielding variants) on the whole is severely underpowered. Covert Lethality is the best dagger, and it's a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MopUpCrewman Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 1 hour ago, DioBrandoTheHotVampire said: daggers are underpowered period DUAL daggers, to be precise. Single daggers however are the best melee you can have if you want to maximize damage. AKA Finisher Damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The entire class is underrated. But ether daggers are great. Even the Okina falls short with less status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IX-44 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 They're underrated because people like me sold them because they seemed like fodder back when we had no mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 because people have no taste in blades :). Ether weapons are some of the best looking IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHeartRoyalGuards Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 4 hours ago, Kenshin98 said: First, remove berserker, blood rush, heavy trauma and energy channel, because they're next to useless on this weapon, replace them with full elements and any other utility mod like focus energy and a dual stat element mod, since the daggers are status weapons I personally prefer the dang prime because they 4 hours ago, Kenshin98 said: First, remove berserker, blood rush, heavy trauma and energy channel, because they're next to useless on this weapon, replace them with full elements and any other utility mod like focus energy and a dual stat element mod, since the daggers are status weapons I personally prefer the dang prime because they look better I actually agree I just have them on cause I was going full retard the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)BroaderSaucer Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Take that to a t4 survival for more than 20 minutes... tell me how that worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHeartRoyalGuards Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 41 minutes ago, (XB1)BroaderSaucer said: Take that to a t4 survival for more than 20 minutes... tell me how that worked out. Bro we have relics no more towers XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duavey Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 As others have said its the class overall. Other weapon types have higher reach and damage, while its comparable cousin, the single dagger, has Covert Lethality. Dual daggers just really... Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnimorph Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 They're a lot of fun to use though, I love my Fang Primes, particularly the stylish little spin you do before holstering them again. As always, the "trashiness" of things in this game is talked up, but actually everything's perfectly viable to Sortie level with enough forma and if you enjoy using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Update Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Man, the secret is use whatever you like OP or NOT, everything make you feel good are Worth, yes dagger atm are weak... But who care? I'm using a MK1 Braton is sorties and it work well :l (not rlly, but is fun) Don't aim For OP tier weap, just have fun with what you Like. Edited August 1, 2016 by NoticeMeValkyr-senpai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanescent Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 10 hours ago, ShadowHeartRoyalGuards said: Hi, So I'm a new player and almost mastery rank 4. So I loved my Ether Dagger a lot and heard it very bad vs the Fangs. And I was wondering why? This is my Ether Daggers build if your wondering what it is: Sinking Talon(Max), North Wind (Unranked), Fury (Max), Berserker (Max), Molten Impact (Max), Pressure Point (Max), Energy Channel (Max), Blood Rush (Rank 3) ,and Heavy Trauma (Rank 3) + a Catalyst. Also I use Excalibur if you are wonder what warframe I'm using.(Btw I know that Excalibur Passive DO NOT work on the Ether Daggers) So can you guys explain how I can kill all factions level 35 enemies in 2 seconds? Well the thing is use whatever you want, and have fun but I have to point out: 1)Your build is terrible. Go full damage, fury, and elemental mods. Crit on ether daggers is useless. Get lifestriike and replace that energy-channel. 2) Lvl 35 enemies are nothing. They are mid-level enemies, any weapon can kill them within 2 seconds, even my skana! :D 3) The reason they get a bad-rep is because come high levels (even the starting stages, think level 50) They staart fo fall off really hard, doing absolutely atrocious damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Take it from me, the person that takes Mag Prime everywhere, don't worry about what other people say. Play the game the way you want to and just ignore the haters. There are 20 some million registered accounts, you'll find people to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I don't think they are bad weapons, I do think the ether daggers are ugly though. In regard to their damage output: What you are hearing from others is spot on. They have a high time-to-kill on 50+ lvl mobs. Daggers and Dual daggers especially need one or more mechanics that takes advantage of their speedy hits as opposed to basically being status weapons. That said, Sinking Talon is one of my favorite stances and Fang Prime is one of my favorite melee weapons. So if you dig them, got for it... Just mind their limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_mtv_xXx Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I look at any weapon and see low crit/status and it's just fodder to me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ghinellil Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 If DE speed up the finisher animation, or cut it in half, daggers could be very useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)BroaderSaucer Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 13 hours ago, ShadowHeartRoyalGuards said: Bro we have relics no more towers XD fine. the t4 equivilent in the void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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