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1 hour ago, DeMonkey said:

Looking at the image there, you can clearly see Teshin and the Grineer chilling. Grineer don't seem to care he's there, nor does Teshin care about the Grineer.

But if Teshin is working with the Grineer, why did he ask us to prove ourselves by chopping them to pieces in that TA?

Teshin confirmed Schizophrenic? 

I had this whole large post that explained everything I had to say on this in detail and then Letter moved the topic halfway through and I hit submit only for it to delete what I typed. I don't feel like doing it all over again, so I'll just give the short version:

Cephalon Fragments - Red liquid
TWW trailers - Red liquid (but this could be color correction playing tricks-- SEE: any outdoor Ceres mission)
Queens and Teshin = Orokin, shaky familial alliance due to that
Teshin attacks us because he knows something we don't and is attempting to deter us from finding out-- for what reason we don't know

Maybe in a little while I'll expand on each of these, but, man, that topic move just... destroyed my enthusiasm to discuss potential lore concepts.

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Gelkor

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1 hour ago, LazerSkink said:

https://warframe.com/thewarwithin

Pointing this out in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.

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Orokin text in the background translates to "Love always takes place beyond good and evil" repeated.

According to some other translators it's "What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/5bhg22/new_tennobet_text_from_new_tww_page_anyone_is/

Which is some interesting foreshadowing...

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3 hours ago, Gelkor said:

According to some other translators it's "What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/5bhg22/new_tennobet_text_from_new_tww_page_anyone_is/

Which is some interesting foreshadowing...

 

Right, thanks for pointing that out. I seem to have forgotten to add many lines after I "figured it out". Read them but got ahead of myself. :L

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10 minutes ago, heskaroid said:

I believe this has something to do with Teshin.

Yeah, that's my guess.

The early trailer show's Teshin drawing a sword on (likely) the Tenno.

My guess?

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Teshin is the Twin Queen's father, who kept them "safe from the knife" with the aid of Ballas, who in payment for the Executor's favor, made Teshin agree to train the Tenno in the Warframes in secret as part of Ballas' bid for power. 

Remember, working on the Tenno was akin to apostasy, the Orokin killed Margulis for it, but Ballas continued the project, likely in secret, tasking Silvana to build the Warframes, and using a Dax elite soldier to train them in the way of the Gun and the Blade. To keep it secret, it would need to be someone he could control, bound to him. Ballas spared Teshin's twin daughters in exchange for his loyalty to the Warframe Program. 

It also seems likely that the Twins themselves use some form of transference with one another. It's also possible they aren't identical twins, and that one uses transference on the other, another interpretation of the kuria's line "...two sisters, Who bore the same face."

Teshin may be bound by love to care for his daughters, no matter what path they walk. Though also has a bond with the Tenno whom he has trained.

 

 

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Just because it seems to be missing, I grabbed the direct link for the tennobet text. https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/Tennobet_Right.svg https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/Tennobet_Left.svg

Also while I was at it I skimmed out the links for some of the other assets.

Hand: https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/hand.png
'Ring' (what the link calls it): https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/ring.png
Title Text (in case someone wants to ID the font): https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/title.png
Grineer Tileset: https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/tileset_jQ1pzP94/Tileset_Bg_Active.png
Grineer Background: https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/tileset_jQ1pzP94/Tileset_Char_Inactive.png
Grineer Foreground: https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/images/thewarwithin/tileset_jQ1pzP94/Tileset_Char_Active.png
War Within Group Shot: https://img.youtube.com/vi/zSAEMqWVgXw/maxresdefault.jpg

 

I cannot currently figure out which one links to the symbol seen on the page, will keep poking! Hope the links help.

Ooh I found the link for Teshin's dialogue: https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/promo_assets/thewarwithin/audio/Teshin_YouShouldnt_yJJgpTHZ.mp3

 

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Adding more links as I find the names for them.
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2 hours ago, LazerSkink said:

 

Just figured it out.

"Love always takes place between beyond good and evil."

It was because I read the first word at the top of the page without realizing the repetitive background could cause confusion

Crack pot theory time. one of the Queens is dying get and the other is using the grinder clone army to look for something to save her. it says love takes place beyond good and evil which could be referring to the atrocities committed by the one queen to save her twin sister (who I'm assuming she loves).

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Welp at least I know why that symbol was not locatable, discovered some interesting stuff about SVG. But that's never stopped me. This 'upscaled' screencap of the SVG labled 'teshin-svg' is for anyone who really wanted a closer look at it (like me). 0xvF1iZ.png

As clean as I can get it with my screen res. Hope some artist out there will appreciate it.

 

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5 hours ago, Gelkor said:

Yeah, that's my guess.

The early trailer show's Teshin drawing a sword on (likely) the Tenno.

My guess?

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Teshin is the Twin Queen's father, who kept them "safe from the knife" with the aid of Ballas, who in payment for the Executor's favor, made Teshin agree to train the Tenno in the Warframes in secret as part of Ballas' bid for power. 

Remember, working on the Tenno was akin to apostasy, the Orokin killed Margulis for it, but Ballas continued the project, likely in secret, tasking Silvana to build the Warframes, and using a Dax elite soldier to train them in the way of the Gun and the Blade. To keep it secret, it would need to be someone he could control, bound to him. Ballas spared Teshin's twin daughters in exchange for his loyalty to the Warframe Program. 

It also seems likely that the Twins themselves use some form of transference with one another. It's also possible they aren't identical twins, and that one uses transference on the other, another interpretation of the kuria's line "...two sisters, Who bore the same face."

Teshin may be bound by love to care for his daughters, no matter what path they walk. Though also has a bond with the Tenno whom he has trained.

 

 

 

This is thought out to the point I feel like I just spoiled the entire quest. Nice work, I'm actually getting eager.

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7 minutes ago, LazerSkink said:

This is thought out to the point I feel like I just spoiled the entire quest. Nice work, I'm actually getting eager.

The more I think about it the more I wonder if:

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The Twins were actually quite sickly, or conjoined, or something that made it so A) Teshin and his house was shunned, and B) Ballas and his Transference Project is what saved them.

The way the Queens are talking right now on the Twitter and Facebook page leads me to believe they understand quite a lot about Transference, a need us and it for something.

Basically, I keep thinking that Ballas is going to show up in some form or another, either through reference, dialogue, or appearance, in most of the lore going forward, because all signs point to him being an over-eager manipulator whose machinations ultimately are the cause of the fall of the Orokin Empire. 

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6 minutes ago, Gelkor said:

The more I think about it the more I wonder if:

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The Twins were actually quite sickly, or conjoined, or something that made it so A) Teshin and his house was shunned, and B) Ballas and his Transference Project is what saved them.

The way the Queens are talking right now on the Twitter and Facebook page leads me to believe they understand quite a lot about Transference, a need us and it for something.

Basically, I keep thinking that Ballas is going to show up in some form or another, either through reference, dialogue, or appearance, in most of the lore going forward, because all signs point to him being an over-eager manipulator whose machinations ultimately are the cause of the fall of the Orokin Empire. 

I had similar suspiscions in the past.

The Queens were born when the war was happening. This might mean before the Tenno. This might even mean they were involved since they ordered all warframes killed on sight before Second Dream.

And I still wonder if they are Lorists by nature; the Grineer die for them gladly. Such power must be truly great for space orcs. I mean warclones.

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5 hours ago, LazerSkink said:

 

Just figured it out.

"Love always takes place between beyond good and evil."

It was because I read the first word at the top of the page without realizing the repetitive background could cause confusion

EDIT; "What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil."

What is done out of love takes place beyond good and evil.

I LOVE IT.

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