ArbitUHM Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have a Stradavar Critatis (+162.8% critical damage, 227.5% critical chance, -30% zoom) and it pretty amazing. It's the DMR-with-a-giant-magazine that I've always wanted. I agree though that there is little incentive to switch firing modes given the semi-auto mode has 20% base crit chance and a fast enough fire rate that it can handle swarms of enemies, particularly with Shred. The higher crit chance on semi-auto pushes the gun towards a crit build which does not work very well in auto mode (only 10% crit chance). I think a buff to the status chance in auto mode would help - semi-auto would still be dominant but at least you could use auto to spread radiation procs or for corrosive armor stripping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almagnus1 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 This illustrates why we need the ability to be able to add/change bonuses to the Riven mods, assuming it costs at least 1k Kuva per operation that is. That'd allow us to be able to see if the Rivens can actually polish the turds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerathos_Dagon Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Yeah, it's really too bad that there are some weapons out there that even Riven mods can't save. Most of the times it's because the mechanics of the weapon are just too horrible for anything to be able to compensated for it. Examples of these kinds of weapons are the Stradavar, the Buzzlock, the Miter, the Panthera and the Paracyst. These weapons just need straight up buffs and/or major changes to their mechanics in order to be usefull. They can be ok-ish if they are modded well enough and are in the hands of a player that is experienced enough with it, but that doesn't mean that they are anywhere near good weapons. I recently got a Riven mod for the Stradavar. Though the weapon is horrible, the stats are pretty cool. It gives about +125% Electricity damage and about +55% damage vs Corpus. Seeing as I also own Primed Bane of Corpus and Primed Cryo Rounds, I was thinking of making a Corpus Annihilator Gun out of it... But then again, this is the Stradavar we're talking about, so I don't know how viable that will be. Edited December 12, 2016 by Zerathos_Dagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have a feeling that the Paracyst and Mutalist Quanta will be terrible no matter what Riven I get for them. I also reckon that when we get Melee Rivens, nobody is gonna want a Machete Riven lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfrided Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Clanmate did a comparison of my weapons for me. Left is Latron P, right is a semi-auto Stradavar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Elfrided said: Clanmate did a comparison of my weapons for me. Left is Latron P, right is a semi-auto Stradavar. People usually run Latron Wraith due to it's 25% crit chance. Latron Prime is rather lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfrided Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Agentawesome said: People usually run Latron Wraith due to it's 25% crit chance. Latron Prime is rather lacking. Wraith, for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Like I said Riven mod is the ultimate bandaid in the game one can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Elfrided said: Wraith, for comparison. This doesn't seem like a Riven is installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfrided Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Just now, Agentawesome said: This doesn't seem like a Riven is installed. I should have mentioned that earlier. Comparisons are a Riven Stradavar vs Latrons without Rivens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMasque Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I got a multishot and status chance riven for the Paracyst and it does rather well as a status weapon. For the grineer I use corrosion and cold, one to obviously strip armor and cold to CC enemies' firerate and movement speed. Though I don't really use it against the other fractions; I guess in this case, I agree with OP, some weapons just can't be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetChaos Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) On 2016-12-11 at 7:56 AM, Venom-Snake said: Panthera and Miter. Nuff said. Speak for your own Miter. Mines got a Riven with +70-100% firerate, +200-250% damage. Edited December 13, 2016 by SunsetChaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArbitUHM Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elfrided said: Clanmate did a comparison of my weapons for me. Left is Latron P, right is a semi-auto Stradavar. Yeah, here's what I get with the Riven Mod I posted above Worse burst damage than a Latron series gun but significantly better sustain. I hate the small mags and long reloads on the Latrons, so this thing is exactly what I wanted. edit: I'm curious how many people have actually tried Riven mods on these weapons before declaring them hopeless. Edited December 13, 2016 by ArbitUHM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--Ascended-Seraphim Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Glaxion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Kazama Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 13/12/2016 at 4:00 AM, --Q--Ascended-Seraphim said: Glaxion I hate to be the typical " WELL I GOT THIS SO IT'S GOOD " But I run a viral radiation build on mine and it absolutely kills corpus, emphasised by the fact I was lucky enough to get a riven that has Multishot, toxic damage, and damage to corpus Tested against a level 140 nulifier / Corpus Tech, and it absolutely destroys them, when I get home later I'll post a gif to showcase ^ ONLY against corpus does this weapon rock though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonDodo Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 11/12/2016 at 4:35 PM, Hypernaut1 said: for me, no amount of power would make me use a sniper extensively. I also dont care much for the buzlok. Im trying to get rid of rivens for the snipetron and buzlok, but no takers. Vectis with a good riven (i got a crit%, crit damage, punchtrhough) is really good on Law of Retribution/NM :) when you can snipe nullifiers/powerfists etc/G3 from the distance while pressing your button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urska Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 On 12/11/2016 at 7:59 AM, Agentawesome said: small benefit sady no Lol. my Deral Vandel went from w.e to petty great tbh. its all about wat ones you get with it. alot of people dont fully get what weapons truely need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urska Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 On 12/12/2016 at 4:49 PM, Marvelous_A said: Like I said Riven mod is the ultimate bandaid in the game one can think of. tbh, no. the thing is, you cant have EVERY weapon good or they be no reason to try other weapons or "upgrade" to a differnt weapon. the fact is Riven mods make starter weapons/just bad ones good again. at least much better. a good exmaple is, if everyone started with a prime bolter Day 1 in wf, kinda would ruin the game in alot of ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvaDreams Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, Urska said: tbh, no. the thing is, you cant have EVERY weapon good or they be no reason to try other weapons or "upgrade" to a differnt weapon. the fact is Riven mods make starter weapons/just bad ones good again. at least much better. a good exmaple is, if everyone started with a prime bolter Day 1 in wf, kinda would ruin the game in alot of ways Why did you dig this up two months late?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urska Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Just now, SilvaDreams said: Why did you dig this up two months late?? only been 2 months is why? lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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