SilvaDreams Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Beggining said: Which is sad, because playing a Bombarder Zephyr is one of the coolest ways to use a launcher. Shhhh! People might start figuring out Zephyr doesn't suck! Edited March 24, 2017 by SilvaDreams Holy Veyhek I hate auto correct at times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reifnir Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Beggining said: playing a Bombarder Zephyr is one of the coolest ways to use a launcher. Problem with Zephyr is, you won't be able to do this on most tilesets, because of the low ceilings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trowicia Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I won't lie, I'm too much of a chicken to use launchers. I put a bit of time into Penta when it was still new but even then I've racked up a lot of self-damage from that damn thing When I leveled the Secura Penta and Ogris I'd cringe with just about every shot I thought was too close for comfort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggining Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Reifnir said: Problem with Zephyr is, you won't be able to do this on most tilesets, because of the low ceilings. Yeah, and places with high ceilings (or no ceilings at all) have a chance to teleport you back to the ground -.- C'mon DE, invisible ceilings. Zephyr needs to fly high up without being teleported. Edited March 24, 2017 by Beggining Woop da Woop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNero86 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, SilvaDreams said: Maybe it will teach people how to move and shoot instead of standing still? I see it all the time, people seem to forget we can jump and hover mid-air or bullet jump the moment they need to shoot. And maybe it will teach people to really aim and more aware of their surroundings Haven't seen much aim-glide actions from other tennos. We are space ninjas right? Why isn't this a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNero86 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Beggining said: Which is sad, because playing a Bombarder Zephyr is one of the coolest ways to use a launcher. 1 hour ago, SilvaDreams said: Shhhh! People might start figuring out Zephyr doesn't suck! Haven't tweaked my zephyr, I think I should do it now 1 hour ago, Beggining said: Yeah, and places with high ceilings (or no ceilings at all) have a chance to teleport you back to the ground -.- C'mon DE, invisible ceilings. Zephyr needs to fly high up without being teleported. Experienced this way too often in certain tileset. Jumps and suddenly you're on the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNero86 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Trowicia said: I won't lie, I'm too much of a chicken to use launchers. I put a bit of time into Penta when it was still new but even then I've racked up a lot of self-damage from that damn thing When I leveled the Secura Penta and Ogris I'd cringe with just about every shot I thought was too close for comfort tbh i killed myself more than I wanted to with Zarr. Thought it was shotgun mode instead of barrage mode when forced to be up close and personal in tight quarters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvaDreams Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, LordNero86 said: tbh i killed myself more than I wanted to with Zarr. Thought it was shotgun mode instead of barrage mode when forced to be up close and personal in tight quarters I think everyone has done that. I either forget which mode I'm in or my lack of feeling in my hands fails me and I don't actually click the middle mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaomega04 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 This sounds fun; make it a thing DE. Hands down I would take this ANY day over snipers *shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidforged Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Would play. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CannyJack Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Hey, why not? Sounds like good fun to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_mtv_xXx Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Vance.Stubbs said: I think certain bosses like Hek would be unplayable with that condition. Slap a bunch of Torid nades on him with the right build and he's toast lol but I gotta say the OP is a bad idea now that most of the launchers have self damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNero86 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, xXx_mtv_xXx said: Slap a bunch of Torid nades on him with the right build and he's toast lol but I gotta say the OP is a bad idea now that most of the launchers have self damage. Actually that's the point, we need to kill the boss (if it's assassination) or anything from range or face the consequences if shooting them up-close. I read back then that some people says sortie is too easy and needs to be more challenging. Hence this idea came out since all launchers will be on (at least) equal ground (with self-damage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_mtv_xXx Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, LordNero86 said: Actually that's the point, we need to kill the boss (if it's assassination) or anything from range or face the consequences if shooting them up-close. I read back then that some people says sortie is too easy and needs to be more challenging. Hence this idea came out since all launchers will be on (at least) equal ground (with self-damage) People who support self damage seem to forget the realities of chaotic missions where enemies, teammates, pets and geometry are in your face most of the time, which means instakill for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma745 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Well, I need an excuse to get the Secura Penta anyway so I'm all aboard with this. Plus, seeing all the salt and rage will be a nice bonus. That being said, if this idea does get implemented by DE, we'll probably need some clarification from DE which weapons is classified as launchers. I mean, Opticor? I think that's kinda stretching it. The classification from the wiki is hard to hold, since it's just there for ease of grouping (I think). If Opticor is counted, does that mean the Ferrox and Javlok as well? Yeah, we need some official statement regarding this if the idea got implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvaDreams Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, xXx_mtv_xXx said: People who support self damage seem to forget the realities of chaotic missions where enemies, teammates, pets and geometry are in your face most of the time, which means instakill for you. Enemies, nope. Team mates, occasionally. Pets, nope. Geometry, pay more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_mtv_xXx Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, SilvaDreams said: Enemies, nope. Team mates, occasionally. Pets, nope. Geometry, pay more attention. Nice try lol nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CannyJack Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Well, you basically have two options: 1. Get used to the fact that you may occasionally blow yourself up. 2. Stop blowing yourself up. Pick one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 We NEED this condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShikiRen Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I guess it wasn't possible before ebcause they could have just labeled it as 'Tonkor Only', but now that the Tonkor also has Self-Damage... Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNero86 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 3 hours ago, xXx_mtv_xXx said: People who support self damage seem to forget the realities of chaotic missions where enemies, teammates, pets and geometry are in your face most of the time, which means instakill for you. it is there for a reason (and no, I'm not gonna do risk-and-reward discussion here). Many will be insta-killed until they learn how to handle the weapon and the process of learning is I think the same when people getting failed at lua spy or lua rescue mission. People do learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerFlare Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 *Takes Crit Tonkor and uses Artemis Bow Instead* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_mtv_xXx Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, LordNero86 said: it is there for a reason (and no, I'm not gonna do risk-and-reward discussion here). Many will be insta-killed until they learn how to handle the weapon and the process of learning is I think the same when people getting failed at lua spy or lua rescue mission. People do learn Yes people learn to use weapons without self damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)A_SimpleName Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Vance.Stubbs said: I think certain bosses like Hek would be unplayable with that condition. It's as difficult *coughannoyingcough* as Kelas with Bow/Sniper only. Anyway, I like the idea. Game is still easy regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadScream Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 10 hours ago, Xardis said: What? Opticor is there too? I was planning to say "hell no". But with Opticor, count me in. Count me too, with my +285% damage riven for this Opti-hard-core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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