Update needs Nidus shield

[Carnage2K4]

On 2017-4-7 at 1:38 PM, (PS4)FinleyB1103 said:

Nidus is a brilliant warframe with incredible powers but the fact that it doesn't have a shield makes him a very difficult warframe to use. 

So please like this post so the shield might be added in the update.

I really have to disagree, as I'm sure many others do, I only have about 400HP on my Nidus and he's still very OP in missions when you don't need to move around much, defences, excavations etc. which he accelerates in, my build is power duration & strength, so I just link up an enemy for like 300 seconds and just destroy everything while being basically invulnerable.

 

I suspect you're not effectively using Parasitic Link on enemies.

Edited May 17, 2017 by Carnage2K4

[Wrum]

On 4/6/2017 at 9:58 PM, 1tsyB1tsyN1nj4 said:

Except the part where they take all your energy. Don't forget that.

sure but because he has no sheilds he can get lots back with rage. do you have a rage mod? if not get one.

[Iccotak]

You should not be using shield mods, you should be using health mods. For any warframe in general. 
I have zero issues with Nidus anywhere, any level. He is a solid frame

[Avynire]

OP probably using nidus in hijack or something mission that need shield to keep the objective going. I wonder thou has anybody tried that. Is that going to be instant mission failure bring inaros or nidus to hijack mission?, just random curiosity.

[Tesseract7777]

3 minutes ago, Avynire said:

OP probably using nidus in hijack or something mission that need shield to keep the objective going. I wonder thou has anybody tried that. Is that going to be instant mission failure bring inaros or nidus to hijack mission?, just random curiosity.

It uses their health pool. 

[(PSN)supernova_girlie]

I feel like his base health needs to be increased. I went into the Mot, Void all big and bad with my "Nigh-dee" and we got jacked! I know part of the problem was my reaction time, but I lost 30 stacks reviving a teammate and I can't figure out how. There were no Nullifiers present. Does something happen when Undying is activated which consumes stacks?

Anyway, I run my "Nigh-dee" with maxed Vitality, maxed Steel Fiber and Armored Agility. Sometimes I use Primed Vigor for shorter missions, but that brings his health to 1440 and I notice  that it still gets eaten up pretty quickly depending on the enemies. I can go for hours with my Inaros in the Mot, but can barely make 20 minutes with my Nidus. Where am I going wrong?

[SilencerMuto]

Nidus need a shield!! what a joke Op.

OMG.. do you know how to play nidus.. Vitality. if you play escort other warframe need to re fill shield to move, Nidus dont need to it use his HP. if your hp pool is big you can move like escort that thing like boss. when low get some life strike, hirudo or HP return boom move like boss again.

you dont even need to care about power efficiency. run negative efficiency just put Rage mod. need energy, "oh poison on floor" just step on it energy fill like sea.

nidus skill no 3. reduce damage to 95%. solo derelict survival  for hours is  easy. fight with high level mob just use that skill and tank like boss.Go simulacrum, pick 20 corrupted Bombard lvl100 ( that my MR limit), use skill no2. spam few times skill no1 then use skill no 3 ahh look they shooting me.. oh i got no shield but my hp not moving.. lol sti back and enjoy killing them. 

skill no2 is so fun you dont need to chase enemy just turn them into a meatball. all served.

 

[(PSN)supernova_girlie]

3 minutes ago, SilencerMuto said:

Nidus need a shield!! what a joke Op.

OMG.. do you know how to play nidus.. Vitality. if you play escort other warframe need to re fill shield to move, Nidus dont need to it use his HP. if your hp pool is big you can move like escort that thing like boss. when low get some life strike, hirudo or HP return boom move like boss again.

you dont even need to care about power efficiency. run negative efficiency just put Rage mod. need energy, "oh poison on floor" just step on it energy fill like sea.

nidus skill no 3. reduce damage to 95%. solo derelict survival  for hours is  easy. fight with high level mob just use that skill and tank like boss.Go simulacrum, pick 20 corrupted Bombard lvl100 ( that my MR limit), use skill no2. spam few times skill no1 then use skill no 3 ahh look they shooting me.. oh i got no shield but my hp not moving.. lol sti back and enjoy killing them. 

skill no2 is so fun you dont need to chase enemy just turn them into a meatball. all served.

 

You know, you're right, I always forget about his #3! This is probably why I couldn't last in Mot for the first 20 minutes. Thank you!

[1tsyB1tsyN1nj4]

4 hours ago, Tesseract7777 said:

Same happens to a frame with shields? Try not to get magnetic proc'd? 

The point being that my first comment was pointing out that even without shields Nidus and inaros still lose all their energy instantly from a Magnetic proc.

Edited May 18, 2017 by 1tsyB1tsyN1nj4

[1tsyB1tsyN1nj4]

4 hours ago, Wrum said:

sure but because he has no sheilds he can get lots back with rage. do you have a rage mod? if not get one.

You can't get energy back for like a second after getting a Mag proc, applies to Rage too actually

[saltygr33n]

2 hours ago, (PS4)supernova_girlie said:

I feel like his base health needs to be increased. I went into the Mot, Void all big and bad with my "Nigh-dee" and we got jacked! I know part of the problem was my reaction time, but I lost 30 stacks reviving a teammate and I can't figure out how. There were no Nullifiers present. Does something happen when Undying is activated which consumes stacks?

Anyway, I run my "Nigh-dee" with maxed Vitality, maxed Steel Fiber and Armored Agility. Sometimes I use Primed Vigor for shorter missions, but that brings his health to 1440 and I notice  that it still gets eaten up pretty quickly depending on the enemies. I can go for hours with my Inaros in the Mot, but can barely make 20 minutes with my Nidus. Where am I going wrong?

Reminds me of the 3rd sortie I did the other day, I had a stack of 80 on nidus, and it was completely wiped as I was downed instantly. I still have no idea what caused it.

 

Any how, to OP, I build my nidus depending on the mission, though I mainly use this build for every mission:

 

 I don't really notice any survivability difference between high and low strength but I sometimes use this build for the 2nd or 3rd sortie survival (depending on conditions)

 

 

You could almost go for any build that suits your style, and though I rarely ever use this other build, it can have its use on maps that are small and or crowded, just don't forget to use parasitic link, as I do very often.

 

 

If you didn't already know, so long as you gather a lot of enemies (I believe, at least 4-5 enemies should suffice, will restore your energy when you use virulence, so having more energy isn't really needed.

Edited May 18, 2017 by saltygr33n

[TankHunter678]

2 hours ago, 1tsyB1tsyN1nj4 said:

The point being that my first comment was pointing out that even without shields Nidus and inaros still lose all their energy instantly from a Magnetic proc.

And if you have an ally that is a Oberon or Titania then Magnetic procs do not happen to begin with due to status immunity granted by their abilities.

Even then Nidus would not care because he can still use his 3 and 4 which do not need energy. Once he can get energy back via Rage 1 use of his 1 will refund itself if it hits 4 enemies. Any more is pure grofit.

Basically he would need to be constantly getting hit by magnetic procs to prevent him having energy period.

Edited May 18, 2017 by TankHunter678

[(XBOX)ryuraze]

On 4/6/2017 at 10:58 PM, 1tsyB1tsyN1nj4 said:

Except the part where they take all your energy. Don't forget that.

"Less devastating".

They recognize that it's still devastating through energy loss.....

[(PSN)theelix]

You do realize that Nidus: 

Has passive health regeneration, and since health is more durable than shield point per point, has higher durability than any shield based from in the game. 

Cannot die by traditional means once he's attained any multiple of 15 stacks. 

Has brain dead easy CC and practically infinite energy on his first ability. 

[SamareRein]

He needs a shield about as much as Inaros does. I.e. not at all. Learn to Nidus better.

[1tsyB1tsyN1nj4]

1 hour ago, TankHunter678 said:

Which also nullifies your suggestion for giving him shields, since shields do not protect against a magnetic proc anyways.

Except I never said give Nidus shields?  Does no one read the first page or something?

[TankHunter678]

Just now, 1tsyB1tsyN1nj4 said:

Except I never said give Nidus shields?  Does no one read the first page or something?

More like I should have paid more attention to the name instead of the profile picture when making the post between missions.

[TrashSpider]

I suggest you study how to use him more extensively before you come to the conclusion he need shields. 

[Ruin_Uranor-er-nelde]

32 minutes ago, 1tsyB1tsyN1nj4 said:

Except I never said give Nidus shields?  Does no one read the first page or something?

Thank you Rage.

 

Edited May 18, 2017 by Ruin_Uranor-er-nelde

[Corvid]

1 hour ago, (Xbox One)ryuraze said:

"Less devastating".

They recognize that it's still devastating through energy loss.....

Key word: Less.

 

4 hours ago, (PS4)supernova_girlie said:

I feel like his base health needs to be increased. I went into the Mot, Void all big and bad with my "Nigh-dee" and we got jacked! I know part of the problem was my reaction time, but I lost 30 stacks reviving a teammate and I can't figure out how. There were no Nullifiers present. Does something happen when Undying is activated which consumes stacks?

Undying takes 15 stacks away when it triggers.

[CoffeeMonster42]

Shields are rubbish anyway.

[(PSN)ArnnFrost]

I believe you meant Armor not Shields, because Nidus doesn't have any Shields on he's an excellent frame to use with Rage builds! 

[(PSN)ghinellil]

Inaros too, please. 4200 of shields...

[o0Despair0o]

Just on a note;

Inaros has a ton of health, but his skills drain quit a lot of health and I don't remember HIM having a passive regen. That guy needs a shield.

But Nidus has regen, good armor, deals tons of damage after a while AND has a passive anti-death mechanic if you got enough "charges" (unless they changed that). No need for a shield here.

[Fox7000]

6 minutes ago, o0Despair0o said:

Inaros has a ton of health, but his skills drain quit a lot of health and I don't remember HIM having a passive regen. That guy needs a shield.

Inaros's 2 makes him invincible and regens hp and his passive makes him get 25% hp back for every finisher kill so i think that he doesn't need buffs.

Edited May 18, 2017 by Fox7000