When I was your MR Ember was alive

[DroopingPuppy]

Honestly, what to do now? I am not Ember main but I do play her sometimes when I think that she would be suited for. And now she is dead.

Just pick Equinox and Octavia is a solution, really?

Although I did played Ember on most missions include sorties.

[VisionAndVoice]

My Ember is still functional. Git gud?

[Tellakey]

I've been here for 4 years or so and until now have yet to build Ember Prime, which resulted in me not touching vanilla Ember either. I was stocked to finally have my hands on her (not like that you pervs).

Now that I've used her I must say... she's so mediocre. I really don't get the commotion. Yeah yeah, WoF got nerfed. Sorry, I don't think better range would have redeemed Ember from being so meh. DPS frames are the worse.

[traybong111]

laughs in 220% power strength flash accelerant 

While I don't disagree WoF was an important CC tool for Ember in lategame, it's at least some consolation that a lot of lazy peasants will move onto other frames. 

[Lady_Lumia]

Ember is not dead and she can still do a lot but now she changed in playwise. The other abilities will be looked up if the frame not works well but if you have problem with the new ember then just give a feedback.

[davaikadoz]

эмбер убили ( кароч новый сезон игры престолов только в варфрейме

[DroopingPuppy]

Well, someone was talked about the Fireball so I need to test it at least.

[ThorienKELL]

Ok from 265 range and 110 strength to 132 range and 220 strength. Doesn't seem that scary ;) 

[DroopingPuppy]

I have tested Fireball and;

-Ability Strength increases its damage and area. About 5m radius on 220% Ability Strength(so 10m diameter).

-Duration of napalm is fixed(about 10 secs). Nothing can increase or decrease the duration.

-Both Ability Range and Ability Duration does nothing, although Accelerant needs some of them.

-Horrible charge time, and still slow even if you put Natural Talent. Anyway Natural Talent is a must.

Well, maybe Ember still have a place, but it is much more annoying... and needs more time to analyze.

 

And, Fire Blast is still sucks.

[Dreadwire]

I haven't touched ember.. like for a long time.

 

I need to touch her again 🙂

[Ragnarok160]

Thr ember melee build will probubly make a comeback

[Fallen_Echo]

59 minutes ago, DroopingPuppy said:

I have tested Fireball and;

-Ability Strength increases its damage and area. About 5m radius on 220% Ability Strength(so 10m diameter).

-Duration of napalm is fixed(about 10 secs). Nothing can increase or decrease the duration.

-Both Ability Range and Ability Duration does nothing, although Accelerant needs some of them.

-Horrible charge time, and still slow even if you put Natural Talent. Anyway Natural Talent is a must.

Well, maybe Ember still have a place, but it is much more annoying... and needs more time to analyze.

 

And, Fire Blast is still sucks.

Just a question but if you use high range, good strenght, acceptable duration build cast first fireblast and then accelerant does the heat damage bonus what we get from fireblast is addittive or multiplicative?

If i fire a weapon dealing 100 heat damage at an enemy will i get:

- 250 damage with accelerant what becomes 375 after blastwave damage bonus is added

- 250 damage with accelerant what becomes 300 after blastwave damage add in it 50% bonus

[(XBOX)Tanta Cinta]

Get Excalibur or Loki. They are two of the greatest frames in the game. Also Harrow. Or Inaros. Ember is hot garbage dude. Time to play with the big bois.

[RoboticApplesWithLasers]

From what I've heard is with the new changes she can kill lvl 100 trash mobs, so maybe she ain't that bad.  Just different.  About switching out to Equinox or Octavia...   Why not just bring a gun and shoot the enemies?  It's not ember fast, but it's still effective. Bring a soma and you won't even go through one clip in a low-level exterm.

[drunkenzombiestrustfund]

I just want to be able to use the augment for her 1 on herself by walking through the AOE she puts down.

[DroopingPuppy]

After think about it for a time, finally I think that Ember is dead. Well, charged Fireball is actually cause decent damage. BUT, that's nothing diffrent with some bullets of Launchers - or weaker. Then why we are bothered to use Ember? We can play something better instead. Although Ember CAN use the weapon while charging Fireball, its horrible charge rate means it is very annoying to do and we have the better replacements out there already.

Even for procs, or at least Condition Overload, I don't think that Ember is a choice for that.

 

2 hours ago, Fallen_Echo said:

Just a question but if you use high range, good strenght, acceptable duration build cast first fireblast and then accelerant does the heat damage bonus what we get from fireblast is addittive or multiplicative?

If i fire a weapon dealing 100 heat damage at an enemy will i get:

- 250 damage with accelerant what becomes 375 after blastwave damage bonus is added

- 250 damage with accelerant what becomes 300 after blastwave damage add in it 50% bonus

 

Sorry I don't think that it is worth enough to test Fire Blast, for its radius seems remain unchanged. Whatever I put the mods for duration and range, its spreading radius is keep same.

[Noble_One]

6 hours ago, traybong111 said:

laughs in 220% power strength flash accelerant 

While I don't disagree WoF was an important CC tool for Ember in lategame, it's at least some consolation that a lot of lazy peasants will move onto other frames. 

to get a new frame "reworked"

[Fallen_Echo]

2 hours ago, DroopingPuppy said:

After think about it for a time, finally I think that Ember is dead. Well, charged Fireball is actually cause decent damage. BUT, that's nothing diffrent with some bullets of Launchers - or weaker. Then why we are bothered to use Ember? We can play something better instead. Although Ember CAN use the weapon while charging Fireball, its horrible charge rate means it is very annoying to do and we have the better replacements out there already.

Even for procs, or at least Condition Overload, I don't think that Ember is a choice for that.

 

 

Sorry I don't think that it is worth enough to test Fire Blast, for its radius seems remain unchanged. Whatever I put the mods for duration and range, its spreading radius is keep same.

Nevermind it, i tested and the patch notes confirmed my assuption the buff is only applied to allies.

[Atekron]

 

8 hours ago, VisionAndVoice said:

My Ember is still functional. Git gud?

"functional"

[Atekron]

8 hours ago, Lady_Lumia said:

Ember is not dead

she's dead, I've tested, I hope she will find some niche, but for what we use her she's dead

[Atekron]

7 hours ago, Ragnarok160 said:

Thr ember melee build will probubly make a comeback

problem is that even 200+ range you will be shooted from over side of a room, yeah it's really that bad

[(XBOX)Spartan Roks]

10 hours ago, Dreadwire said:

I haven't touched ember.. like for a long time.

 

I need to touch her again 🙂

Why do I get the wrong feeling about this?

[TinySuperSalad]

Equinox - Ember but slash, when they complain, tell them your ember was nerf so now you Equinox XD

Banshee - when they complain, tell them your ember was nerf so now you banshee XD

Broberon with 190 range build can cover and clear small defense maps with less movement and is comparable to equinox / ember clear.

 

 

[Helch0rn]

 

14 hours ago, DroopingPuppy said:

When I was your MR Ember was alive

you were MR 24 in the past? if yes, then how did you loose the 110k Mastery you need to reach 24 again?

 

on a serious note:

ember was never "alive". she was a frame that either was used to brain-afk low level missions or provide CC via Firequake.

and who cares if ember got "nerfed"? like you said, there is a whole lot of other frames that you can use if you don't like the changes

Edited February 11, 2018 by Helch0rn

[DroopingPuppy]

12 hours ago, Helch0rn said:

On 2018. 2. 10. at 8:05 PM, DroopingPuppy said:

When I was your MR Ember was alive

you were MR 24 in the past? if yes, then how did you loose the 110k Mastery you need to reach 24 again?

 

on a serious note:

ember was never "alive". she was a frame that either was used to brain-afk low level missions or provide CC via Firequake.

and who cares if ember got "nerfed"? like you said, there is a whole lot of other frames that you can use if you don't like the changes

I'm 23 now, so I can say it to most people especially for newcommers. And, well, that's named after "When I was your age pluto was a planet.", you know.

 

We can switch to the others, as we does always, but it is sad to see something is nerfed to the ground, as always. Even for something broken and/or what I don't use, it is painful to see something is render useless because someone will weep for it. And I have Ember.