mosaickle Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Aside from stealth, the flashy cutscene Bladestorm was the only reason why I played him... :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 /finds worlds smallest violin to play for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenoraptor Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 You do know you can still take part in the flashy animations, right? Just teleport at one of the marked enemies and you join in at no energy cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nez-Kal Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Push 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvorax Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 hmm one of the few that actually liked the boring cutscene. opt in with 3.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I haven't played Ash after the update. Can't we still get the cutscene? I loved it too NSDBL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 so just use teleport as soon as you've done bladestorm... it's still there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 you can still do the stabby ex gf movie.....just use teleport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosaickle Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Oh really? Like, when I 4 around, do I press 4 and 3 together or just 3 a marked target? If so I'm assuming it plays as before and ends 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) Thing I love about the cutscene. I was doing a Lua Survival mission and we end up going into an open area with 20+ mobs and 2 sentients... out of habit I immediately sweep marks across the area and engage the enemy with my fancy bullet jump picking them off. At some point in the fight my shields go down and I think "oh no what am I to do", so I hit 4 and smile. I love that it is a get out of jail free card. So I still like it if I can still do that. Edited February 11, 2018 by Redfeather75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zNightWolfz Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 ash rocks it even more now im loving this style of play with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbid- Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Redfeather75 said: Thing I love about the cutscene. I was doing a Lua Survival mission and we end up going into an open area with 20+ mobs and 2 sentients... out of habit I immediately sweep marks across the area and engage the enemy with my fancy bullet jump picking them off. At some point in the fight my shields go down and I think "oh no what am I to do", so I hit 4 and smile. I love that it is a get out of jail free card. So I still like it if I can still do that. ash has invis, you know that right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Rabbid- said: ash has invis, you know that right I like bladestorm for it's instant 'ash is not there but still attacking' part. I know smoke screen has a brief knockdown immunity during it's cast but I instinctively use blade storm to dodge dangerous moments. It's just my playstyle. Or was my playstyle, as I haven't tried ash in a while. Edited February 11, 2018 by Redfeather75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) IMO, the new bladestorm is lacking style now. It's practically his 1, with clones instead of shurikens. He marks people, does a little hand motion and things get stabbed in the distance. It doesn't feel like HE is the one going berserk and stabbing a bunch of enemies multiple times. Its a little stale to me now. With pre-rework BS, it felt like Ash was blacking out, Wolverine style, and just murdering everyone in the vicinity. Yes, it was OP, but that's how it "felt" and that's what i enjoyed about it, cutscene and all. With the rework, it retained some of that feel, but felt more deliberate. These were enemies that he marked, that he went berserk on, with his shadow clones going in after. Now it just feel like he's gotten lazy and just commands clones to do his work. Just doesn't feel as satisfying to me. Sure i can opt in, but its kind of clunky at the moment, and the incentive isn't really there. Its not ASH doing the killing anymore. Its not satisfying to just do it for show. This is just how i feel, im sure tons of other players just appreciate the DPS. Im kind of disappointed in the change. I would have prefered an opt out personally, or maybe less animations per enemy marked. But oh well, i cant expect to like every change. On a positive note, i think my DPS has increased with change. The last survival sortie i was mopping enemies up. It actually felt closer to old bladestorm ash in enemies killed per minute actually. I was constantly marking enemies for death while also shooting at them. I think this change makes Ash more of a mass killer again. Edited February 11, 2018 by Hypernaut1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDice Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Press 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babellon Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I like the new design personally. I liked the old design too for clarity. I agree with a poster above about the feel of the old BS and its functionality in emergency situations in that it made them a non emergency, However I like the new design as well because I can cast it and watch my clones do the work while I do any other functions, I can also charge into the mobs with bladestorm activated allowing my clones to distract enemies and prevent damage to me or negate part of it. Parkour, blocking and general maneuvering and targeted attacks become more interesting and useful in my opinion I'm not just jumping around for show any more. I have trouble catching targets some times one the fly to hit teleport and have to remind myself to smokescreen then target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjase Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) I love that DE included the best of both worlds. Love being able to move around while enemies are murdered? You got it. Love the cutscenes and invulnerability? Press 3. I think this is the best Ash has been in a long time, with all his augments except bladestorm augment having a niche to fill. I can only dream of a bladestorm augment rework, considering how redundant it is with body count/drifting contact/naramon around. Maybe something to help bladestorm apply more crowd control or something. Nah that would be even more OP. Edited February 12, 2018 by ninjase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphan1310 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I hate these new changes. But then again maybe I haven't figured out how to use them? For instance do you teleport and then press melee attack? Do you keep teleporting to make it seem kind of like the old blade storm? I miss the old blade storm so much. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Orphan1310 said: I hate these new changes. But then again maybe I haven't figured out how to use them? For instance do you teleport and then press melee attack? Do you keep teleporting to make it seem kind of like the old blade storm? I miss the old blade storm so much. :) You must teleport to a marked target. Then it's the same as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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