mikakor Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 i mean, what's even the problem. i see someone, i quote " Nice DE, it will really help us trusting you more for future events" . what's even the problem? Yeah, they may have #*!%ed up a little because they thought more persons would scan them, and they increased the results to finish it. what's the bloody big deal? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SordidDreams Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The purpose of a game is to please the player. Being told things that aren't true is unpleasant. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) The big deal is why do events that have no item rewards if DE's just going to do this when the community is clearly failing. Edited March 14, 2019 by Fire2box 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, SordidDreams said: The purpose of a game is to please the player. Being told things that aren't true is unpleasant. boohoo. is it really that bothering? they just pumped out the results. so what? 1 minute ago, Fire2box said: The big deal is why do events that have no item rewards if DE's just going to do this when the community is clearly failing. fair enough point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, SordidDreams said: The purpose of a game is to please the player. Being told things that aren't true is unpleasant. And an event failing so it never progresses to the next stage or stalling for weeks is arguably more unpleasant. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SordidDreams Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, (PS4)psycofang said: And an event failing so it never progresses to the next stage or stalling for weeks is arguably more unpleasant. If DE gives us an event that can fail and we choose to fail it, they should just grow a pair and let it fail. Inflating the numbers is like having a railroading GM in a tabletop RPG. If it doesn't matter what you do and the story is going to progress along a predetermined path anyway, the illusion of choice just feels like an added kick in the teeth. DE should either give genuine choice or dispense with the deception. Edited March 14, 2019 by SordidDreams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, (PS4)psycofang said: And an event failing so it never progresses to the next stage or stalling for weeks is arguably more unpleasant. thats 100% fair IMHO. Though what's not fair is just randomly placing nook tablets in Orb Vallis with no indication of to look for said tablets or even their locations. If there's a ARG with clues I clearly missed it and nor would I care. For the people who want to claim "But what about Hildryn! How do we get her if we don't unlock the new spider via the event!" simple, buy her with plat you can farm and trade for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Either way, there will always be complaints. We have complaints for, complaints against and complaints against complaints. Truly meta. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, SordidDreams said: If DE gives us an event that can fail and we choose to fail it, they should just grow a pair and let it fail. Inflating the numbers is like having a railroading GM in a tabletop RPG. If it doesn't matter what you do and the story is going to progress along a predetermined path anyway, the illusion of choice just feels like an added kick in the teeth. DE should either give genuine choice or dispense with the deception. yeaaah, no, you can keep that for you. i want the new warframe Hildryn, and i don't want to wait for weeks, or worse, NEVER, because some people like you are here. you feel disapointed because they bossted up the numbers? really? hahaha, how cute. so if you want, we can do this for all the damn game. they will set a new event, that, if the community succeed, will give us the access to TAU system. ho, no, sorry, DE now follows your logic, and knowing the community, it will fail. well, thank you, you screwed up the most awaited update of the game, see you next year!! ^^ see how dumb it is? if it was for razorback / fomorian, yeah, maybe... but not for something that is directly related to story and / or new items or warframes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, SordidDreams said: If DE gives us an event that can fail and we choose to fail it, they should just grow a pair and let it fail. Inflating the numbers is like having a railroading GM in a tabletop RPG. If it doesn't matter what you do and the story is going to progress along a predetermined path anyway, the illusion of choice just feels like an added kick in the teeth. DE should either give genuine choice or dispense with the deception. Or do what they have always done and give an illusion of contributing and tip the scales, change literally nothing. Nobody gains anything if the event stalls forever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniox Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 They made an insanely boring and entirely useless community goal so no one did it. Maybe DE will pay attention to that fact next time. DE should have just made the community goal and event one single thing: Close 1,000,000 fractures for the emblem. If the roughly 50,000 people currently playing people each did 20, then that's the emblem. Close 3,000,000 fractures for the 4 amalgam mods. That's 60 fractures each. Easy peezy. Close 4,000,000 fractures for the sigil. That's 80 fractures each. Close 5,000,000 fractures for opticor. That's 100 fractures each. Tada, that's the operation. If they then just make each individual fracture a little more fun and engaging, you got yourself an interesting, relatively easy, relatively quick, community orientated operation where the community goal is built into the individual players goals. They could even then make it that the community as a whole needs to close 10,000,000 fractures so that way the super grindy players can still have fun, whilst the casual players can sit back once they've done their 100 fractures each. Or just 200 fractures per person and the event moves on to phase 2, you got your rewards and you got nice resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 They did a few times. It never worked because the community literally wouldn't let it. I think one time they even had it designed to fail and the community still won. At that point, why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mikakor said: yeaaah, no, you can keep that for you. i want the new warframe Hildryn, and i don't want to wait for weeks, or worse, NEVER, because some people like you are here. you feel disapointed because they bossted up the numbers? really? hahaha, how cute. so if you want, we can do this for all the damn game. they will set a new event, that, if the community succeed, will give us the access to TAU system. ho, no, sorry, DE now follows your logic, and knowing the community, it will fail. well, thank you, you screwed up the most awaited update of the game, see you next year!! ^^ see how dumb it is? if it was for razorback / fomorian, yeah, maybe... but not for something that is directly related to story and / or new items or warframes. If community actions have no effect on community events, why have them anymore? Also it doesn't have to take a year for it to come back in event of failure, it could simply run until it completes. Edited March 14, 2019 by Fire2box 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SordidDreams Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mikakor said: you feel disapointed because they bossted up the numbers? really? hahaha, how cute. No, I feel disappointed because after so many years they still haven't learned that community events shouldn't be done in the first place. 5 minutes ago, mikakor said: they will set a new event, that, if the community succeed, will give us the access to TAU system. ho, no, sorry, DE now follows your logic, and knowing the community, it will fail. well, thank you, you screwed up the most awaited update of the game, see you next year!! ^^ see how dumb it is? Yes, thinking that players would ignore an event to unlock Tau is indeed very dumb. You wanna know something that will blow your mind? Players ignored the scanning event precisely because they knew DE would not let it fail. Edited March 14, 2019 by SordidDreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olphalarepth Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, sleepychewbacca said: Either way, there will always be complaints. We have complaints for, complaints against and complaints against complaints. Truly meta. Hey, do you mind? We are trying to get a serious complaint over here so stop complaining. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinhnguyen Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 what rewards for this event ? i scanned 3/3 for now and this event is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Olphalarepth said: Hey, do you mind? We are trying to get a serious complaint over here so stop complaining. I'm going to complain about you complaining about my complaining about people complaining about complaints. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Some people are lazy, the reason DE boosted it because they know the bar is not filling up anytime soon. I don’t want to wait for another year/month/week because of some douchebags who refused to take part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)xtharbadx Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Doesn't bother me at all. But that's because I know that these "community" events are usually fake and rigged to meet whatever planned agenda DE has. But for people naive enough to believe that their participation actually means something.. it's certainly disappointing I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, chinhnguyen said: what rewards for this event ? i scanned 3/3 for now and this event is gone none. it just opens a door to whats rumored to be some area to fight a "new" orb in or something for said fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olphalarepth Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sleepychewbacca said: I'm going to complain about you complaining about my complaining about people complaining about complaints. That's it, you done it. Ima report you right now! EDIT I'm very critical of DE when they eff up but what were they supposed to do? The meter was not going to fill and the event has to continue since it seems to have some lore inside. They should have been more careful about handling the whole thing in the first place and now they are simply doing damage control, SOP. Nothing scandalous, nothing wrong with it Edited March 14, 2019 by Olphalarepth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, (PS4)xtharbadx said: Doesn't bother me at all. But that's because I know that these "community" events are usually fake and rigged to meet whatever planned agenda DE has. But for people naive enough to believe that their participation actually means something.. it's certainly disappointing I imagine. To be fair for the first few days the progress bar did seem to be community based, then DE clearly put it on a timer when it wasn't going to meet their own expectations at the studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreXCZ Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Well, what do you expect? DE can't accept the fact that event was failing, since it was will of players to ignore boring activity. But instead of admitting that they messed up, they just secretly inflate scan rate (even through it's so visible). I wish DE was transparent, came to forum and said "Okay, we messed up, we apologize for this boring nonsense, we will boost it and make it meaningful". I would expect some reward for all that community effort, not just unlock of some doors in cave. Edited March 14, 2019 by CoreXCZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Olphalarepth said: That's it, you done it. Ima report you right now! I'm trying to think if i can complain about this further, but it's too deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathEarl Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Way I see it, most community events like this are just so we might get things sooner. And since the boss for the event drops Hildryn’s parts there is no way they would simply let it fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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