Corpus is going to WAR - design analysis of new ships and guns.

[RDN-5263]

So, possibly spoiling DE plans for keeping future Corpus polt developments...

Despite having their centuries long conflict with the Greneer, up to now Corpus corpus had very few guns that looked like actual military equipment. Most of their weapons were either repurposed tools, (Serro Kreska), clearly lowest bid/maximum profit deals with plenty of exposed innards (Glaxion, Tetra), felt more like gimmick guns sold more by advertisement than actual efficiency (Convectrix, Quanta), were clearly overclocked tools of pacifying indentured workforce (Amprex, Prova), were designed to be sold to Tenno (Plasma Sword and ESPECIALLY Falcor) or were limited run prototypes (Orb Valis hybrid guuns).

They did have an excellent light machinegun, marksman and sniper rifles, a decent hand shotgun, grenade launcher and man-portable cannon. That that is more of vicious totalitarian police kit with a holdout weapon thrown in there. Notably, this does not include a proper spec assault rifle or simple to use melee weapon, aka something you could arm recruits with after relatively short boot camp.

 True, that Corpus doctrine didn't have much place for basic infantry, replacing them with various robotic systems, but new guns imply it might change soon.

Now, onto rationale for above:

Stahlta. The warfighters assault rifle. Automatic primary fire with decent accuracy, explosive secondary for AoE damage. That is a combination that covers most of what an infantryman should be reasonably dealing with. For extra bonus, secondary is straight flying projectile, not an arcing grenade. backed up by a decently sized magazine, with mechanical spend powercell ejection and simple slap in of fresh cell.Both modes provide sufficient amount of raw damage output, to, again, deal with infantryman scale target. Need more dakka or more boom - call support squad with their Supras, Pentas and Opticors. And unlike many examples listed in the beginning, it featured proper fully enclosed body, preventing stuff from getting to internal mechanisms. And combined with rather small size (and presumably weight), makes it IIRC first true Corpus military assault rifle.

Stropha. Corpus doesn't like fighting up close and personal, hence their melee weapons are either improvised, designed to be punishment tools or to be sold to Tenno because Profit. Problem is, everyone besides them does like to get up close and personal. So, their potential infantry needs CQC weapon for these occasions. And it has to be intuitive to use too. Hence first proper bladed weapon in Corpus arsenal for their own use. Comes with built in holdout pistol.Stropha looks the part for all that.

So, we have two simple weapons, designed with quickly trained recruits in mind. Which means that for one reason or another Corpus prepares to fight a war without their usual proxy contingent. And the only reasons they would even think about this is in preparation for the event of their proxies being useless or even subverted. And, knowing Origin System history, I can make a guess, than Corpus is preparing for fight Sentients.

Their new ships also reflect this with a few design solutions not seen before - namely now we have plenty of crew stations enclosed in their own little cockpits, most likely with separate life support systems, able to function normally even if ships hull compromised or main life support systems damage. That, additionally, makes it rather harder for potential boarders to access any of ship controls easily.

[vanaukas]

1 minute ago, RDN-5263 said:

So, possibly spoiling DE plans for keeping future Corpus polt developments...

You didn't finished the quest and read the inbox message when you get a capture scene? DE literally tells you the same, corpus is going to have a war.

[TARINunit9]

1 minute ago, RDN-5263 said:

felt more like gimmick guns sold more by advertisement than actual efficiency (Convectrix, Quanta)

Ironically, a bunch of the new Juno Scrambus enemies are running around with the Convectrix

3 minutes ago, RDN-5263 said:

[before now] Corpus doesn't like fighting up close and personal

Are you sure about that?

[phoenix1992]

I mean, Corpus used to rely on robotics exclusively, hence why they did not utilize "standard" weapons. You also have Alad's branch doing it's own thing versus the Anyo part. And the Ambulas incident that happened relatively recently. 

Edited June 18, 2020 by phoenix1992

[0_The_F00l]

there are also a few gun designs of guns not yet seen (or wielded by other corpus) in some of the rooms, so expecting mroe conflict soon.

The end of the quest implied as much.

[JackHargreav]

Yeah since Parvos knows about the sentients he's probably prepared to fight them.

And probably he will help us in Duviri Paradox since he has experience with the void. And it seems like he's not against us. For now at least.

[schilds]

They can't be all that serious if they go around building large golden statues on their ships.

[(PSN)robotwars7]

5 hours ago, RDN-5263 said:

makes it IIRC first true Corpus military assault rifle.

Dera: "am I a joke to you?"

one of the most important factors when designing a new Infantry rifle (or anything on a large scale) is that it has to be something that can be produced in vast quantities, somewhat rapidly, and without breaking the bank. this is not as easy as you'd think, and while the Stahlta is interesting, it seems like it would be far cheaper to make the Dear: few apparent moving parts, which makes production less expensive as it means less machining work. and it uses Fieldron lasers - the same ammo type used in the Tetra, Supra and Cestra - which make it easier to resupply since it can use the same energy sources as these other guns. for the Stahlta you would need an adequate amoutn of the metal it fires. Dera is to the corpus what the Grakata is to the grineer, so I'd argue Dera is the first true infantry rifle, since the regular Crewman - the most ubiquitous frontline unit - uses it.

5 hours ago, RDN-5263 said:

Corpus doesn't like fighting up close and personal,

Terra Trenchers and Vapos Nullifiers would like a word with you.

in the past, Corpus would just send expendable Prova Crewmen to handle melee combat, but the Corpus, like any good military, learn from the enemies they face. since encountering the Tenno again, they've realised the sheer havoc that a fast-moving melee specialist can cause on the battlefield, hence the introduction of Trenchers, who like us, dash towards targets and use CC abilities to weaken the target so they may strike. Vapos Nullifiers take a more aggressive approach than standard Nullifers, instead of sitting back and sniping they rush to deny you your powers, and can succeed where standard Nullifiers fail by fending off targets in melee. oh, and then there's some of the Comba/Scrambus units that use the Lecta... seems to me that they are fine with CQC as long as they have additional protection, such as in the form of enhanced agility or protective bubbles.

5 hours ago, RDN-5263 said:

I can make a guess, than Corpus is preparing for fight Sentients.

well they're doing a pretty crap job when you consider that all the Sentients have to do is reactivate all their trinkets that the Corpus own, and bam: now they control Jupiter and the Vallis , and I assume now the entire Corpus fleet since there's Sentient Tech on the ships now too. the Orokin saw their tech - which is supposed to be better than any other tech - get used against them, how do you think the Corpus will fare, especially since there's now multiple, gaping doors into their systems begging for Sentients to break in and take control. they probably think they can use the Sentient's own tech against them, which is nothing short of Hubris. the Corpus' mixing with Sentient technology will be their downfall when Erra's boys start showing up in proper numbers.

yes, you could argue that they would also know more about the Sentients than most other factions due to their research, but that's about the only saving grace they have. Grineer would likely fare better vs Sentients because their tech is basic and they can try to overwhelm the Sentients with sheer numbers.

 

[Butterfly85]

Well let's be blunt, their ships get torn apart by Fomorians like wet paper whenever they run into them so they would have to rethink and seriously upgrade their fleet sooner or later. The fact the sentients are making themselves felt again only adds to this urgency.

I'm guessing the enclosed life support pods than op mentioned might be there with infested incursions in mind so they arent so quickly overrun if they get on board

[OniDax]

Ever since Fortuna, DE has been militarizing the Corpus. I don't mind it; I just wish they'd update the default Crewman jumpsuit to look a bit more like a military outfit. Kinda wish the Grineer would get an aesthetic overhaul to make them look a bit more like an organized, structured military force instead of a bunch of futuristic orcs.

2 hours ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said:

Dera: "am I a joke to you?"

You think the Dera looks like a true military assault rifle?

Edited June 18, 2020 by TheGildedOni

[(PSN)robotwars7]

7 hours ago, TheGildedOni said:

You think the Dera looks like a true military assault rifle?

looks are secondary to function: the AK47 is by most accounts, an ugly rifle made of obsolete materials like wood and Stamped steel. but it's well known and revered for how well it functions: it's reliable.

the Dera does pretty much everything that can be expected of it as an infantry rifle; it offers controllable automatic fire, has enough accuracy to hit relatively distant targets without need of a scope, and is lightweight and compact enough to carry around all day. it has decent mag size with a quick enough reload, and it uses the same tech as other Corpus guns so it's easy enough to replace or repair parts if needed. it's a workhorse weapon: not for showing off, just for making sure your frontline forces can fight effectively.

if you wanted to categorize, Dera = Assault Rifle, Tetra = Carbine , Cestra = pistol & SMG roles and Supra = LMG.