(XBOX)Apoll0 666 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I haven't played super long, I still in fact consider myself a noob. But recently I was reading a warframe article and it said, and i quote "Of course, Zephyr isn’t the most popular of frames". Z-zephyr? What? I had never ever heard of this frame or seen it in game or on video. Was she taken out or something? I didn't even know she existed, from what I've seen Xaku is the last alphabetically. (Sorry for the text size change, i can't fix it : /). Why is this frame so forgotten and not spoken of? I read her release date on Warframe Wiki and she came out in 2014, what's wrong with her? What are her abilities and why don't people like them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Link this article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnossosTNC Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Well, she just doesn't do much, besides flying around landscapes with her 1 and being invincible with her 3. Kind of limits her utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Apoll0 666 Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, (XBOX)C11H22O11 said: Link this article https://apptrigger.com/2021/01/30/warframe-valentines-day-nightwave-intermission-3/#:~:text=Nightwave Intermission 3 will begin on February 1 on all platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 people don't like zephyr? lies and conspiracy i tell you! /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Apoll0 666 Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, ReddyDisco said: people don't like zephyr? lies and conspiracy i tell you! /s I didn't even know she existed 🤣, I read her abilities on the wiki and she sounds super powerful and versatile. But from what I read, she's clunky and unreliable. Definitely looks fun to play though, I wanna toss tornadoes around, least imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, (XBOX)Apoll0 666 said: I didn't even know she existed 🤣, I read her abilities on the wiki and she sounds super powerful and versatile. But from what I read, she's clunky and unreliable. Definitely looks fun to play though, I wanna toss tornadoes around, least imo. Tornadoes unironically are pretty strong but only if you use a pure electric weapon to supercharge them, like fulmin apart from that she's a swiss army knife that can do it all in theory but inreality she's as effective as throwing an actual swiss army knife at a grineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Apoll0 666 Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, ReddyDisco said: Tornadoes unironically are pretty strong but only if you use a pure electric weapon to supercharge them, like fulmin apart from that she's a swiss army knife that can do it all in theory but inreality she's as effective as throwing an actual swiss army knife at a grineer I didn't even see her on the tier lists I've seen, like, is she really that bad? I've seen Hyroid and Nyx in game. I've even seen Grendels at relays, but nope, never even seen or knew of Zephyr until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troposphere6 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, (XBOX)Apoll0 666 said: I didn't even see her on the tier lists I've seen, like, is she really that bad? I've seen Hyroid and Nyx in game. I've even seen Grendels at relays, but nope, never even seen or knew of Zephyr until now. People don't like Zephyrs passive which makes her much lighter than other frames. I think that's the main reason you don't see people playing her she's a decent all round frame but the floatiness is hard to get used too so people go for one of the other decent frames if that's what they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I wish they didn't butchered Zephyr's Turbulence. I thought that ability is great against every enemy type that shoots. But no. The Jugulus shoots right through it. The Saxum shoots right through it. Flamethrower units shoot right through it. She had the best defensive ability ever and they #*!%ed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troposphere6 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, JackHargreav said: I wish they didn't butchered Zephyr's Turbulence. I thought that ability is great against every enemy type that shoots. But no. The Jugulus shoots right through it. The Saxum shoots right through it. Flamethrower units shoot right through it. She had the best defensive ability ever and they #*!%ed it. I think the two infested units when they "shoot" it's counted as a melee attack so rather than being specifically anti zephyr I think it's an oversight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Troposphere6 said: I think the two infested units when they "shoot" it's counted as a melee attack so rather than being specifically anti zephyr I think it's an oversight yep, mesa gets rekt by those jugulas units aswell because thrown infested projectiles are counted as melee, makes perfect sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troposphere6 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, ReddyDisco said: yep, mesa gets rekt by those jugulas units aswell because thrown infested projectiles are counted as melee, makes perfect sense I think there glaives. Does turbulence block Drahk Master's Halikar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridian Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 There are worse frames than Zephyr, not a lot, but there are. Nyx, Hydroid and Banshee come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnossosTNC Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Troposphere6 said: I think there glaives. Does turbulence block Drahk Master's Halikar? I can answer this one, since I recently levelled a Kitgun with Zephyr in Adaro. It's a big fat no. Snaffled my kitgun right out of my hand like a fish hook through paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffel Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (From personal experience and other perspectives) Main issues with Zephyr are that her passive can be hard to deal with and get used to, and it doesn't necessarily benefit her kit, her 1 is a decent but uncontrollable movement ability with a subpar damage variant, 2 is a sorta decent CC tool, 3 is one of her best since it's basically damage invulnerability from *most* ranged attacks, and her 4 is basically some big but somewhat unreliable CC and damage. She has potential, but due to way how she works and is especially weak in certain areas, it's probably why you don't see her as much. Also, X is not the last letter of the Alphabet. Z is literally the last letter. And to further show much Zephyr hasn't seem much use (taken from https://www.warframe.com/2020stats): I know it may seem weird to include Xaku, but they at least have had more than 1% of usage than Zephyr had at all in 2020. I know that could be because of them being a recent Warframe, but for the other that's been around for 6 years earlier, it's a pretty disparaging. Which is why it's good that she's not only getting a Deluxe, but some buffs and changes to her abilities that could help her. Plus, I wouldn't say Zephyr is the worst Warframe in the game, she's definitely faulty but not impossible to use to an effective point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxswatelitexx Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Problem really is Zephyrs abilities like Dive Bomb are super situational and nearly impossible to use in many areas of the map. For example in Most Areas of Kuva Fortress have low roofs making Dive Bomb impossible to use as it requires you to fly up and bomb down. What makes it worse is even though it is situational it also does insanely little damage for the amount of effort you use to do the ability. Though this is made up with the tailwind mod which increases damage drastically for each enemy hit. 2nd. Is OK CC but it does buff your tornado 3rd Ability is great. 4th Ability Tornado is a hit or miss because it can only absorb Pure Elemental damage types. So unless your weapon is geared for single element for maximum damage you won't be able to min\max the tornado damage. Most people rarely use single element damage type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Apoll0 666 Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scruffel said: (From personal experience and other perspectives) Main issues with Zephyr are that her passive can be hard to deal with and get used to, and it doesn't necessarily benefit her kit, her 1 is a decent but uncontrollable movement ability with a subpar damage variant, 2 is a sorta decent CC tool, 3 is one of her best since it's basically damage invulnerability from *most* ranged attacks, and her 4 is basically some big but somewhat unreliable CC and damage. She has potential, but due to way how she works and is especially weak in certain areas, it's probably why you don't see her as much. Also, X is not the last letter of the Alphabet. Z is literally the last letter. And to further show much Zephyr hasn't seem much use (taken from https://www.warframe.com/2020stats): I know it may seem weird to include Xaku, but they at least have had more than 1% of usage than Zephyr had at all in 2020. I know that could be because of them being a recent Warframe, but for the other that's been around for 6 years earlier, it's a pretty disparaging. Which is why it's good that she's not only getting a Deluxe, but some buffs and changes to her abilities that could help her. Plus, I wouldn't say Zephyr is the worst Warframe in the game, she's definitely faulty but not impossible to use to an effective point. I know Z isnt the last letter in the Alphabet lmao. I meant the warframes Alphabetically, Xaku came last, since I didn't know about Zephyr and thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troposphere6 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, KnossosTNC said: I can answer this one, since I recently levelled a Kitgun with Zephyr in Adaro. It's a big fat no. Snaffled my kitgun right out of my hand like a fish hook through paper. It might be something to raise when they put up the workshop for the Zephyr tweeks that glaives and projectile melee should be effected by turbulance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesodos Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ver1dian said: There are worse frames than Zephyr, not a lot, but there are. Nyx, Hydroid and Banshee come to mind. Banshees sonar is actually a really good damage buff and Hydroid can provide more loot. Nyx is still useless most of the time even when doing it for the lolz. Its a shame that Zephyr never had what it takes to be actually viable. Her recent buffs helped a bit but she's still lackluster compared to most other frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridian Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Nesodos said: Banshees sonar is actually a really good damage buff and Hydroid can provide more loot. Nyx is still useless most of the time even when doing it for the lolz. Its a shame that Zephyr never had what it takes to be actually viable. Her recent buffs helped a bit but she's still lackluster compared to most other frames Banshee's sonar is a damage buff that only works on targets that dont need extra damage to die. Hydroid's sole saving grace indeed was pilfering swarm, but pilfering strangledome killed it, peed on the corpse and then put it up on display for everyone to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, Troposphere6 said: I think there glaives. Does turbulence block Drahk Master's Halikar? as i said, it doesn't make sense. zephyr wind shield can deflect corpus lazers but can't deflect some grineer can opener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troposphere6 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, ReddyDisco said: as i said, it doesn't make sense. zephyr wind shield can deflect corpus lazers but can't deflect some grineer can opener? Yep it's probably and oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Steering her tornado with aim is slow and hindering and it doesn't really do much. Funny how the next Warframe is getting that mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 hours ago, JackHargreav said: I wish they didn't butchered Zephyr's Turbulence. I thought that ability is great against every enemy type that shoots. But no. The Jugulus shoots right through it. The Saxum shoots right through it. Flamethrower units shoot right through it. She had the best defensive ability ever and they #*!%ed it. When did this happen? Last I checked (admittedly two weeks ago) Turbulence was coded to be less a harsh wind that interrupts enemy accuracy, and more an invisible wall that blocks all gunfire and reflects all beam weapons away at random directions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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