Narmer Hacks

[Lord_Drod]

What is best for Narmer hacking?  I solo the archon stuff, but I'm so terrible at these.  I think I tried to take a moa once, but he went down in 10 seconds and I left him to die lol.  I'd rather just do 3 archon fights than have to do one of these hacks.  It's definitely a skill issue.  Spy and Rescue are my nemesis.

[Lord_Drod]

I don't think you can cipher in the archon missions - they are basically sortie 2.0.  I don't think you can cipher when you are Kahl either, but his quests aren't as intense. 

[Darkmega18]

5 hours ago, Lord_Drod said:

Luckily they have not added that.  I just figured they would migrate to all the sortie sets, but never did.  

I'm better at these now, and usually have cat hair on my laser when I'm failing haha.

*phew* but yeah, narmer hacks just take a bit of getting used to. I find if you just watch where the line is, then pick a dot, you can then just either go in a circle to hit them all for a diagonal line, or go from top to bottom/left to right on a straight divide. it really is just practice. they used to muck me up at first, although I'd never usually just outright fail, but they'd take a hot second to go through. rarely I might miss one and accidentally lose some time and then panic and fail, but thats like a 1% at this point.

[nslay]

On 2023-06-27 at 6:26 AM, LadyEsti said:

I remember perspicacity used to work in narmer hacks, now I just cancelled narmer spy as this does not work any longer and those narmer consoles "violate my brain" - messing up all. So that perspicacity in narmer got nerfed?

You scared the heck out of me. I just did Archon Spy and it still works. It did not get nerfed.

Reasons why Perspicacity doesn't work:

1. You aborted, failed or already hacked the console before.
   • For example: You might have forgot to activate Perspicacity and decided to abort the hack to activate Perspicacity. Sorry but you'll have to manually hack it now.
2. A bug where the game treats two consoles as being the same (so, applies condition 1).
   • Different Bursa consoles count as one Bursa console... you can only hack one type of Bursa console with Perspicacity (tested in Razorback).
   • I vaguely remember... Eidolon Lures?
   • Bounties with Drones that need to be hacked (e.g. Plains of Eidolon). Can only hack the first Drone console with Perspicacity.

EDIT: I guess an old fashioned word that rhymes with "chickens" is a "bad" word on the forum now. Boo DE! You can guess the word that rhymes with "chickens" by filling in the blank in: "You scared the ... out of me."

[Lord_Drod]

12 hours ago, Darkmega18 said:

wait what? lua can show up in archon mission sets?

Luckily they have not added that.  I just figured they would migrate to all the sortie sets, but never did.  

I'm better at these now, and usually have cat hair on my laser when I'm failing haha.

[Darkmega18]

On 2022-09-28 at 12:34 AM, Lord_Drod said:

Yeah, I usually only do it if i get the parazon 30% shot.  It does look cool.  I forgot about the helminth hack thing, but then I won't get good at them.  I fear the Lua archon rescue - you really have to do these pretty efficiently to hack like 5 in 40 seconds or something.  Kahl's missions aren't as intense.

wait what? lua can show up in archon mission sets?

[(PSN)haphazardlynamed]

Nice Nekros topic

 

anyway, Try holding your mouse/controller upside down

[Mr.SpookSpook]

Step 1: use Helminth and Infuse this ability

Step 2: never manually hack again.

[LadyEsti]

I remember perspicacity used to work in narmer hacks, now I just cancelled narmer spy as this does not work any longer and those narmer consoles "violate my brain" - messing up all. So that perspicacity in narmer got nerfed?

[(XBOX)Player244024418]

On 9/27/2022 at 9:39 AM, (XBOX)THE NTT said:

with a controller lacking the precision of mouse it can just be a frustrating mess

This is my problem as well. I was searching for solutions and hoping someone had a nugget. No such luck.

Is there a more accurate controller for Xbox with a nicer joystick?

Is there a "simulacrum" for narmer consoles to practice ?

Either would be nice.

 

[RichardKam]

If you are absolutely having issues with....

1) spy: subsume perspicacity on your loki. Zenurik can cover the energy if you want 100% fool proof.

2) rescue: subsume perspicacity on your limbo. Go into the rift. Open the door. Perspicacity the lock. Banish the operative. Extract.

[(PSN)haphazardlynamed]

21 hours ago, Lord_Drod said:

You already don't have to hold crouch if you start hacking in void mode. 

haha is that possible?  I think im too lazy for that though.  I think they have some variance where not always the same axis is mirrored.

I don't use AHK so I dunno what its capable of

but would be trivial to script on my TitanOne.

 

been a while since I played WF, but I believe the mirroring is either horizontal, vertical, or diagonal

which isn't really hard to code, its just a toggle of inverting x, y, or both at once.

[AlyxisPrime]

What helps me is to picture the dot opposite to where it is (based on the dividing line) and try to put my mouse there.  Even you if just get close, it's pretty forgiving with it's 'hitbox' size.

[Lord_Drod]

You already don't have to hold crouch if you start hacking in void mode. 

5 hours ago, (PSN)haphazardlynamed said:

Activate your Reverse Axis Direction Macro?

haha is that possible?  I think im too lazy for that though.  I think they have some variance where not always the same axis is mirrored.

[(PSN)haphazardlynamed]

Activate your Reverse Axis Direction Macro?

[tel__arin]

12 minutes ago, Lord_Drod said:

What does V do for you? 

crouch without holding control. 

13 minutes ago, Lord_Drod said:

if you are too slow, you can't hack enough times for other cells.

either get good or use helminth Perspicacity

[Lord_Drod]

8 hours ago, tel__arin said:

jump into operator and press V before doing the cypher and use the mod Intruder in your parazon. 

What does V do for you?  I think I put intruder on for these, but if even if you complete the hack, if you are too slow, you can't hack enough times for other cells.

[slava.ukraine]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb quxier:

Isn't ciphers not allowed here?

I remember that there was an opportunity. because with a controller these little quests were too hard.
because other puzzles are much easier to solve than this.

[tel__arin]

jump into operator and press V before doing the cypher and use the mod Intruder in your parazon. 

[quxier]

50 minutes ago, slava.ukraine said:

because other skills with damage or cc bring more.
and cypher works there, doesn't it?
only in sortie something like this could be critical.

Isn't ciphers not allowed here?

[drnlmza]

2 minutes ago, quxier said:

I'm not sure if it's universal but you can hear rescue target screaming "I'm here" or something like this. It happened for me when I hacked first console. I'm not sure what triggers it. I had normal mission and I haven't heard them.

It only happens if the alarm has been triggered (which is unavoidable on sortie style missions), which is probably why you don't hear it in normal missions.  They'll even sometimes call out some seconds after you've hacked the right cell, which is I always find a bit amusing.

[slava.ukraine]

Gerade eben schrieb quxier:

why?

because other skills with damage or cc bring more.
and cypher works there, doesn't it?
only in sortie something like this could be critical.

[quxier]

1 hour ago, drnlmza said:

For the Archon Hunts, Perspicacity from Helminth is probably worth trying. I haven't personally tried it, but I've seen claims it works. I'm fairly sure nothing else can give you 100% chance of success.

The Auto Breach mod can trigger (and has a cool little animation when it does for the Narmer consoles), but it's only a 30% chance, so doesn't solve your problem

Yes, Helminth Perspicacity works on consoles. It's still takes some time to auto hack so you need to be careful or just use Ivara/Loki/etc

It's still takes time to activate.

58 minutes ago, (XBOX)THE NTT said:

Just a bit of practice.  The only time it really sucks for me is rescue when you might have a lot of terminals (cages) like on the mars tile set, there are more than four dots per hack and I'm solo.  with a controller lacking the precision of mouse it can just be a frustrating mess.

I'm not sure if it's universal but you can hear rescue target screaming "I'm here" or something like this. It happened for me when I hacked first console. I'm not sure what triggers it. I had normal mission and I haven't heard them.

55 minutes ago, slava.ukraine said:

maybe helmith skill? but I wouldn't recommend that.

why?

[slava.ukraine]

vor 29 Minuten schrieb Lord_Drod:

What is best for Narmer hacking?  I solo the archon stuff, but I'm so terrible at these.  I think I tried to take a moa once, but he went down in 10 seconds and I left him to die lol.  I'd rather just do 3 archon fights than have to do one of these hacks.  It's definitely a skill issue.  Spy and Rescue are my nemesis.

maybe helmith skill? but I wouldn't recommend that.

[(XBOX)THE NTT]

the line is the mirror - so if its horizontal, you need to invert your up/down, if its vertical, you need to invert your left/right. if its diagonal its a bit of both.

Just a bit of practice.  The only time it really sucks for me is rescue when you might have a lot of terminals (cages) like on the mars tile set, there are more than four dots per hack and I'm solo.  with a controller lacking the precision of mouse it can just be a frustrating mess.

 

[Lord_Drod]

Yeah, I usually only do it if i get the parazon 30% shot.  It does look cool.  I forgot about the helminth hack thing, but then I won't get good at them.  I fear the Lua archon rescue - you really have to do these pretty efficiently to hack like 5 in 40 seconds or something.  Kahl's missions aren't as intense.