mosaickle Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Completely outta curiosity, what are considered the worst primary, secondary and melee weapons in Warframe and why? Don't worry, I'm not gonna get any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouldershoulder Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 You already had them. The ones with MK-1 in the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadwire Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Everything you like. But you can't use it in end game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewarette Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) AkBronco Prime Bronco sucks, Akbronco sucks twice, Akbronco Prime is the Primation of Sucking Edited April 30, 2017 by Chewarette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChatNinja Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Primary I say Javlok Secondary any Bronco as for melee nothing beats Machete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrudShuzKong Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Seer is by far the worst in my opinion. In addition to horrendous stats it is also extremely rng-heavy to acquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aechmea Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dreadwire said: Everything you like. But you can't use it in end game Braton prime... D:< Edited April 30, 2017 by Crimson-Tenno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowStalker Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Worst Weapon?-Pangolin Sword :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volinus7 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Inb4 "If it can deal at least one damage, it's not bad or useless." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine027 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Nothing is really bad if used right, problem is more other weaposn overshadow others sicne, well, newer, most are upgrades to older weapons since DE can't create a new category each time can they? Overall starter weapons obviously. Seer is average since one mentioned it here. Only thing really bad i guess is the Stug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Graysmog Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Volinus7 said: Inb4 "If it can deal at least one damage, it's not bad or useless." If someone says the Seer is good due to this logic. I'll be having a few words with them. Yet hey, in the very least, we do have the Mutalist Quanta, which can seriously help UP weapons, along with some Arcanes, Rivens, Augments and Abilities. However, I'll admit, you're kidding yourself if you think you can do anything with a crit chance below 5% and a status chance below 10% with a crit multiplier below 2x and no base damage (looking at you, Lato). Edited April 30, 2017 by (XB1)Graysmog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Graysmog Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, Chewarette said: AkBronco Prime Bronco sucks, Akbronco sucks twice, Akbronco Prime is the Primation of Sucking I mean, Akbronco Prime can shred armor like butter and apply statuses much like other shotguns, and can be quite powerful due to that alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeXion Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, ChatNinja said: Primary I say Javlok But Javlok can be good :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)watt4hem Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, JudgeXion said: But Javlok can be good :< Only throw the javlok. It's primary fire is sht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 primary: paracyst, though this was pre buff and i haven't used it since, it's probably ok now. worst one ever though was the vanilla Snipetron. 4 weak shots with a 3.5 second reload, what a piece of shish that thing was. secondary: Seer. who honestly thought a pistol with that much Zoom was a good idea? it's also pi$$ weak and slow as hell. Melee: *insert Machete class weapon here*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskered Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Everyone keeps S#&$ting on Seer. While it it indeed weak weapon in PvE, ....in conclave it's pretty damn good if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xgomme Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Marine027 said: Nothing is really bad if used right, problem is more other weaposn overshadow others sicne, well, newer, most are upgrades to older weapons since DE can't create a new category each time can they? Overall starter weapons obviously. Seer is average since one mentioned it here. Only thing really bad i guess is the Stug. Well, I guess you'll have to play with my Stug (Random : With Limbo Za Warudo you can freeze a lot of globes to create an artificial Frost Avalanche :3 ) This weapon is weird as clem, but it's really really really strong. The only really bad thing is the alt fire, since you can reach it with some multishot on the primary fire... The possible range of the alt fire should be higher if you have higher multishot imo Nothing is bad, some are just plain weird to mod. Panthera was one of my main weapon before rework, with some firerate and status duration it was already sortie viable. Even more with frames with a weapon buff. Even mk1 weapons can find some use, since some are not plain downgrades. Like Paris or Kunai iirc Edited April 30, 2017 by Xgomme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComCray Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Tonkor, simulor and telos boltace... ~grabs popcorn & deckchair~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Cycron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shenaniger Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) DE on occasion releases a weapon that can't pull its weight in the current end-game, but on average the weapons that have been released over the years have slowly improved in DPS, scale-ability, utility, etc. If you recall the early days of warframe (back when Hek was considered OP), enemy levels 30-50 were generally considered end-game by the community (with the exception of a few individuals who chose to push the envelope). Back then there simply weren't the mods/weapons to take people through that damage fall-off. As time went on, better mods, weapons, and damage mechanics got gradually introduced and slowly pushed the definition of "end-game" for everyone. While this has been happening over the years, the older weapons were left virtually untouched and never properly re-balanced in any way that could compete with later generations of weapons (unlike the warframe overhauls that kept even the gen-1s feasible to this day). So while some say "starting weapons" or "mk-1", they're technically right but that's not necessarily the answer I'd give. I'd say, the "worst" weapons are the ones that were released earlier in the game's development, and were considered worthless even at that time. All that being said, I present for your consideration, the Afuris! It barely held its own in end-game (during first year of warframe) in terms of DPS, but it was such a bullet hose that you wouldn't have enough ammo to last you 1/4 into the average exterminate mission (i.e. hold down lmb for 16.1 seconds to deplete all your secondary ammo). Even when ammo mutation got released, it wasn't enough to sustain the Afuris' ammo inefficiency, and I imagine that it would have trouble even today, when you use a maxed-out primed pistol ammo mutation mod. Ammo efficiency aside, its base status/crit% make it impossible to build for them. The one slightly redeemable feature of it is the slightly competitive DPS, but even a fully modded afuris (requiring 6 formas) will be outclassed by most weapons' DPS potential. A truly bad, irredeemable weapon. Edited April 30, 2017 by Shenaniger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Javlok makes no sense and is absolutely pointless, with convectrix right behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadScream Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 So much Javlok hate... I find it useful, especially with Saryn it spreads Spores with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox_Preliator Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Chewarette said: AkBronco Prime Bronco sucks, Akbronco sucks twice, Akbronco Prime is the Primation of Sucking I'd argue that's the best of the Bronco series, since the AkPrime version can be a 100% Status Shotgun, while the other three versions have just about nothing going for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, DeadScream said: So much Javlok hate... I find it useful, especially with Saryn it spreads Spores with ease. 6 bullets, long &#! reload and alt fire that does nothing to high level enemies...except killing you with self dmg. Oh and that's after it already got buffed once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutzdes Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Glaxion, Hind, Panthera. Spectra, Embolist, Broncos. Most Machetes, thrown melee after the series of nerfs. Hopefully DE fixes some garbage-tier weapons one at time. Say, Harpak, daggers, Buzlok, shotguns, snipers were barely usable and now are pretty much ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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