Xaero Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 hours ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: i actually posted that in feedback when the prime parts toggle was implemented stating that for tennogen purposes or even on immortal skins/ect that umbra frames have the same capability with umbra parts toggle We need a video or screenshot that shows attachment window of Chinese Umbra. As was mentioned above, there may be no "Umbra parts", and the scarf and loincloth occupy auxillary slot (like Nekros' Morthos or Valkyr's bonds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimDelta Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) I remember reading a while back some post, is it true that not everyone can have the umbra version? i really do hope its not related to the dark/light meter thing, requiring being full dark in order to get the umbra Ps:I was just thinking.What if the actual Shadow Stalker will be the main character in all this.Since it already kinda falls into the all "How shadows falls in to an object" and excalibur umbra rendering looks striking similar to some body parts on the stalker.Maybe Stalker will kinda do the sacrifice : Kill lotus or the tenno's from the order of maybe Ballas or a returning Hunhow or remember who he actually is and turn towards the tenno's.And since ballas has Limbo somehow abilities once u make this choice you will be hunted by an enraged Ballas. Or second thing i think of is the whole man in the wall.What if the so called demon is actually your father from the ship, twisted and transformed beyond recognition.The sacrifice :Let lotus become margulis or some stuff, and try to recover your father who will become your guidance, or save lotus and doom the other one for ethernity.And since they said will be multiple umbras, there were multiple parents on the void ship.The void demon/parent once awaken to its senses will use transference to take control over the stalker. Edited January 31, 2018 by GrimDelta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 37 minutes ago, GrimDelta said: I remember reading a while back some post, is it true that not everyone can have the umbra version? i really do hope its not related to the dark/light meter thing, requiring being full dark in order to get the umbra No it's not true. To think about it, it'd be a bad decision to restrict players from new content. And it would be extremely stupid to do so years later after the choices were made without even mentioning what we could lose in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Ksaero said: No it's not true. To think about it, it'd be a bad decision to restrict players from new content. And it would be extremely stupid to do so years later after the choices were made without even mentioning what we could lose in the first place. While I agree, DE did state at the time long ago in a devstream (in a land far far away) that once the meter becomes important a way would be given / needed so that the player can switch sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BLOOD-LINE-01 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Airwolfen said: While I agree, DE did state at the time long ago in a devstream (in a land far far away) that once the meter becomes important a way would be given / needed so that the player can switch sides. I hope the meter does actually end up counting for something in the future and isn't just a feature that's forgotten about. Right now it only shows whether or not you're more inclined to be a "hero" or an "anti-hero" as it were. Doesn't really count for much. Edited January 31, 2018 by (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said: I hope the meter does actually end up counting for something in the future and isn't just a feature that's forgotten about. Right now it only shows whether or not you're more inclined to be a "hero" or an "anti-hero" as it were. Doesn't really count for much. They recently covered it again on stream and it did not look well with how they talked about it. would not be surprised if it would all out disappear before seeing actual use. However I do like it in a way and hope it sees some light use in stuff like the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ringed-Umbra- Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Ksaero said: No it's not true. To think about it, it'd be a bad decision to restrict players from new content. And it would be extremely stupid to do so years later after the choices were made without even mentioning what we could lose in the first place. I was thinking maybe we actually get Umbra for every frame that got the prime instead of a limited amount of Umbras, if they do this way they will be able to on the future make so that the decisions the player made actually matters now, and thus the player will be able to remake their decisions. With this they will either have primes or umbras. It's likely not to happen due to one side (Umbra) having it's Excalibur while the other (Prime) not. As well it is "too late in-game" to add this since if you are more on the "Dark Side" it would make all primes inaccessible (not deleted just unplayable), while the Umbra list is incomplete yet, if anyone get what I said anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 It's too early to say to have an Umbra for every frame because we do not know what an Umbra is and what creates one. We just knows they are "dark" frames and not necessarily evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ringed-Umbra- Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, CaptainStrawberry said: It's too early to say to have an Umbra for every frame because we do not know what an Umbra is and what creates one. We just knows they are "dark" frames and not necessarily evil. What I said was more like an exemple, they said Umbra will not be avaible to every frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BLOOD-LINE-01 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Airwolfen said: They recently covered it again on stream and it did not look well with how they talked about it. would not be surprised if it would all out disappear before seeing actual use. However I do like it in a way and hope it sees some light use in stuff like the story. I really hate it when features are introduced and then just forgotten about. So far this morality mechanic has been in every quest of importance, apart from TSD. It would be cool if DE gave us choices that actually arrive at truly different endings, rather the the same ending but with a slightly different flavour. But I doubt DE would do that since that means they'd have to sculpt the future of the game around each individual choice and that would be too much work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)HellGage_Killz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So there is hints to us as players getting umbra at the end of the Quest but the quest before it we got the broken weapons so does that mean that umbra is the broken frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, (PS4)HellGage_Killz said: So there is hints to us as players getting umbra at the end of the Quest but the quest before it we got the broken weapons so does that mean that umbra is the broken frame the broken weapon in tsd was because frame snaps it and can be restored maybe we get a damaged excal umbra and have to repair or its bp, or? 5 hours ago, -Ringed-Umbra- said: What I said was more like an exemple, they said Umbra will not be avaible to every frame. that was actually in a very early dev and they have not repeated it since, and we know de steve wants to make umbra a thing like primes, so possibly it will get expanded upon, and hopefully allow for newer frames to get variants 5 hours ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said: I hope the meter does actually end up counting for something in the future and isn't just a feature that's forgotten about. Right now it only shows whether or not you're more inclined to be a "hero" or an "anti-hero" as it were. Doesn't really count for much. for now maybe it will factor into other things, it does affect helmith and some little things, possibly someday it will get reworked in a bigger way tsd/tww overhaul maybe? 13 hours ago, Ksaero said: We need a video or screenshot that shows attachment window of Chinese Umbra. As was mentioned above, there may be no "Umbra parts", and the scarf and loincloth occupy auxillary slot (like Nekros' Morthos or Valkyr's bonds). currently its not an auxiliary slot it actually is a fixed part of the model unless theyve given it qol changes it will be on the frame regardless of swapping skins as it can be seen with proto excal skin and imortal on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: currently its not an auxiliary slot it actually is a fixed part of the model unless theyve given it qol changes it will be on the frame regardless of swapping skins as it can be seen with proto excal skin and imortal on Were there any screenshots or vids that prove it? Because auxillary items can be used with deluxe skins: Valkyr's Bonds, Chordalla Prime, Mortos Binds (which float in the air, but still). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Ksaero said: Were there any screenshots or vids that prove it? Because auxillary items can be used with deluxe skins: Valkyr's Bonds, Chordalla Prime, Mortos Binds (which float in the air, but still). pretty sure there was a chinaframe vid were user showd it in cosmetics and nothing after syandana if youd like to look heres a link to search their google https://www.google.com.hk/ or you can look up the chinaframe forums and ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: pretty sure there was a chinaframe vid were user showd it in cosmetics and nothing after syandana if youd like to look heres a link to search their google https://www.google.com.hk/ or you can look up the chinaframe forums and ask Ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 hours ago, (PS4)HellGage_Killz said: So there is hints to us as players getting umbra at the end of the Quest but the quest before it we got the broken weapons so does that mean that umbra is the broken frame I'd expect Ballas' sword to be the broken weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogaMC1995 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, Ksaero said: I'd expect Ballas' sword to be the broken weapon. I expect the same. Maybe his sheath will be broken so we only take his sword to use it as an Odachi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BLOOD-LINE-01 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, Ksaero said: I'd expect Ballas' sword to be the broken weapon. Enough with the broken things after every quest! Lets get something thats actually whole for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said: Enough with the broken things after every quest! Lets get something thats actually whole for once. Something like... Umbra? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BLOOD-LINE-01 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ksaero said: Something like... Umbra? :D Exactly. In all seriousness though, having another broken weapon/object given to us at the end of the Sacrifice would basically just be turning into a meme at this point. Edited February 1, 2018 by (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said: Exactly. In all seriousness though, having another broke weapon/object given to us at the end of the Sacrifice would basically just be tirning into a meme at this point. I'd be fine with it if we could receive two versions of the weapon, like it was with War/Broken War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BLOOD-LINE-01 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ksaero said: I'd be fine with it if we could receive two versions of the weapon, like it was with War/Broken War. But wouldn’t it be nice to just have one complete version for once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said: But wouldn’t it be nice to just have one complete version for once? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't see anything bad in broken version if I can have the original as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BLOOD-LINE-01 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, Ksaero said: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't see anything bad in broken version if I can have the original as well. You just want more Mastery Fodder lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said: You just want more Mastery Fodder lol No, I liked both War and Broken War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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