angias Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 why not just make it that damage reflected is affected by ability strenght? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bao Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, angias said: why not just make it that damage reflected is affected by ability strenght? Because Blessing damage reduction is already strength based, which is needed for this Link build. Having it go off strength would just amplify the skill's ability even more, if it doesn't do it already. Unless you're referring to applying a flat damage multiplier on the ability. Edited April 4, 2018 by Bao Clarificatiom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyori Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Crying for nerf is also a form of toxicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Il y a 2 heures, Bao a dit : Because Blessing damage reduction is already strength based, which is needed for this Link build. Having it go off strength would just amplify the skill's ability even more, if it doesn't do it already. Unless you're referring to applying a flat damage multiplier on the ability. well i'm not sure about what i was thinking (genuinly forgot about blessing effect and build requirement) instead split the damage reflected between enemies and use the same cap than damage absorbtion (because she is multiplying the damage she is taking) but i guess the ability is fine (might be strong but the dedication needed for it might justify the output) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupcakesMoo Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) I have a question about that, OP. What part of that is a bad thing? Also This Edited April 4, 2018 by CupcakesMoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawmonark Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Yes, Please DE.. make Castatnas not do Self damage. While you are at it, remove all self damage. This would be acceptable for me, BUT please do not nerf any damage. On Topic: Yes and no. It is really strong at what it is good at, but outside of that.. it is a useless build. Currently, it is good for farming xp, focus, power leveling friends and credits. Can we not have nice things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblit Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 9 hours ago, rune_me said: Everyone can play it. It's not like you need leet skills to use Trinity or pre-nerf Ember for that sake. Actually, that's what's the complaints are about: that it's too easy and they want something that requires more skills than just pressing a button. Except this requires using mods nobody ever uses in normal builds, keeping link and blessing up, then timing explosives when jumping to not instantly put yourself down....simply pointing a gun at an enemy and popping their head off is far more simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintaro Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Trinity's link already been nerfed ages ago why does it need another nerf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 If this gets nerfed, those "non mandatory mods" go back into the shadows, I guess. I mean, who even uses Diamond Skin and Aviator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambit23Z Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I honestly find this community's view on balance absolutely fascinating. I remember when people got angry that their literal god mode were taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Sanity9x Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Clockwork Geoff Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 23 hours ago, Nakrast said: I see no nerf needed, it's a clever technique players found, and it's not something lazy like Banshee and Ember are/were. I agree - besides Warframe is a game about being OP, it isn't destiny where we need to nerf everything into boring balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottezio Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 At least trinity player are doing something rather than just pressing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Mintaro said: Trinity's link already been nerfed ages ago why does it need another nerf? Because it's Trinity and Trinity has space cooties~ .... yeah I got nuthin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupcakesMoo Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Alright so we have finally come to the conclusion that trinity does not need a nerf and the community should scarcely be trusted on matters of balance. It's very hard to balance a game over someone's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune_me Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 6 hours ago, (XB1)Clockwork Geoff said: I agree - besides Warframe is a game about being OP, it isn't destiny where we need to nerf everything into boring balance. "We" don't nerf anything. DE does. DE obviously want some balance in their game, otherwise they wouldn't nerf/buff things at all. But I think DE's MO so far has mostly been to do away with things that requires very little skill or input from the player to get the job done. And I agree this build doesn't seem like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Clockwork Geoff Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, rune_me said: "We" don't nerf anything. DE does. DE obviously want some balance in their game, otherwise they wouldn't nerf/buff things at all. But I think DE's MO so far has mostly been to do away with things that requires very little skill or input from the player to get the job done. And I agree this build doesn't seem like that. I meant we in the abstract, not the literal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 It is just one of those builds where you see people fail at it over an over. Whenever I end up with one of these Achmed Trinity players I usually just chuckle and ignore ressing them. When they fail at doing their thing they waste everyones time by using that build over a better suited offensive frame that doesnt need to be ressed constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Crixus044 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Good? Yes. Broken? No Really all it does is effectively increase aoe weapon radius. The weapon's damage is what it is, and trinity spreads that damage across her radius, but believe me, this tactic does NOT scale into the OP levels. Sure the tactic works in the lower/mid levels with some use in the 100s, but it's hardly as good as an actual aoe dps frame. The weapon commonly used (Sancti Castanas) isn't really that good on its own, which is what makes this tactic so unique, and in actuality, the damage scales ok, but not the best. It's not even close to miragulor levels back in 2016 So no, it's not broken or OP unless you live in hydron, stuck at level 30s. It's only popular now because it's our new flavor of the month. It's our trend because there isn't much else to use for us vets that we haven't already used, so we ride on this. Give it a few months for the actual best builds to come back and everything will be ok again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Ex Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Why the hell do people think this build is new? Oooo Ahhh bravo you managed to see someone using a build from 3 years ago, DPS Trinity was a thing since she had link and was great for dealing with T4 survivals on her own, but most new players won't know what I'm talking about cause they weren't around for warframe in its better days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDxBarracka Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 OP?? nah Feels like a Wukong augment build On 4/4/2018 at 5:13 PM, aligatorno said: It's not as lazy, but it's as brain dead as them. Cast link > Throw Castanas > Jump > Detonate > Rinse&Repeat. Seems more active than press 4, don't yeah think?? There is also risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Some context if people don't know what this build is about: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Mah kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Crixus044 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Knight_Ex said: Why the hell do people think this build is new? Oooo Ahhh bravo you managed to see someone using a build from 3 years ago, DPS Trinity was a thing since she had link and was great for dealing with T4 survivals on her own, but most new players won't know what I'm talking about cause they weren't around for warframe in its better days. You know, i miss the days of stug trinity lol I remember when enemy damage would scale faster than health and enemies would be wrecking themselves lol This build is nothing new. It's almost nostalgic, but the mechanics and methods are new, caused by a combo of DE's non-forethought method of buffing things and spaghetti coding. Does this mean anything? Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Crixus044 said: This build is nothing new. It's almost nostalgic, but the mechanics and methods are new, caused by a combo of DE's non-forethought method of buffing things and spaghetti coding. Does this mean anything? Not really It does mean something. Poor old trinity will be getting "reworks" due to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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