Rakosta_Kai Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Firetempest said: What does the average user get out of this though. Other than just being reassured the devs are fighting the good fight? I was gonna say, "The tingle of knowing they got someone perma-banned."...Then I read further down. 28 minutes ago, jxtichi012 said: After several month you find the one you reported is still alive. And DE is still response "thank you for the report". We really need the feedback like this to know the report is useful and not just "thank you for the report". ...So maybe not tingles but some kind of satisfaction regardless. Personally, the issue regards that player and DE directly...3rd parties have no stake in their decisions and don't need to be apprised of any actions DE decides to take. Edited September 8, 2018 by Padre_Akais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanS Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just stay around forums, you will see people complaining about how they were "unfairly" banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastaban75 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 So, this is to satisfy some completely misplaced sense of justice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--Waltz Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Also this is a mostly PvE game and who really cares how much faster someone "cheating" killed infested on whatever tileset. Take your extra energy white knighting and I don't know go save someone in Africa. Edited September 8, 2018 by Endless-Waltz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JustJoshinEnt Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1. No naming and shaming. 2. Why make rule-breakers more infamous for their crimes? Why give them more attention by hanging their name out in the spotlight? It only feeds the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarc Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) While I don't agree with a list of the permabanned accounts, I think people who have reported an account should get a notification when action has been taken. Don't have to say ban, warning, suspension, trade ban or anything specific just that action has in fact been taken. Reason being that I'd like to know how effective the reports are and how strict to their own rules DE really are. HOTS does it really well. 15 hours ago, Endless-Waltz said: Also this is a mostly PvE game and who really cares how much faster someone "cheating" killed infested on whatever tileset. So you don't disagree with people exploiting the game, stealing accounts, harassing people over race or similar things? Do you approve of it then? Edited September 8, 2018 by Navarchus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)lokaspoka Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 9 hours ago, jxtichi012 said: I mean the one who really do their worst and get permanent ban. why do u care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---UMBRA--- Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 You want ban list. For what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Hyperion Rexx Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Why would you want to see a list of those banned ? I can't see what purpose it would serve or how it would enhance your game play. Just sounds like being nosey to me and opens DE up to possible privacy law violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheSectorZ Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 how i can i go back on chat i wanna go back im sorry for report :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheSectorZ Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 how i can i go back on chat i wanna go back im sorry for report :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--Waltz Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Navarchus said: So you don't disagree with people exploiting the game, stealing accounts, harassing people over race or similar things? Do you approve of it then? I never stated anything about that, but again what does having a public flogging do to benefit you? Edited September 8, 2018 by Endless-Waltz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzRustbolt Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 15 hours ago, Omega-Shadowblade said: And different business ethics. Frankly though, a list like that isn't needed. They're usually counterproductive in fact. Just ask anyone over on 4chan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RhinoCharging00 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 As i said previously, the only way I can see this being useful is to check that reported hackers have been penalised. As I am on console it is very much an unimportant issue to me, but I know the p.c community have a terrible time with hackers and cheats on some games; though it seems more prevalent on competitive (looter) shooters like BF, CoD, DayZ, PubG, R6S and the like. There is sometimes a kind of zero tolerance attitude among some p.c gamers when it comes to any kind of cheats/hacks/exploits as being a slippery slope of toxicity and bad practice. I myself am not particularly good at indulging the culture of p.c exploiting/cheating, though I accept for many it is akin to modding and seen as harmless in a strictly PvE setting. Regardless, in situations where there are toxic cheaters, and only in that context, a player that is reported over and over and is still playing can be used as proof that companies aren't acting to protect the "legitimate" players. They say they are "totally against cheaters and it is company policy to...blah blah blah blah"; we all know the spiel. So, as a way to check the conduct of cheats and to verify who is being caught and dealt with, then it can be argued it has some merit. Taking a companies word for it when many have been proven incapable in the past of dealing with it effectively is a big reason people want disclosure regarding the who, when, etc... Ideally, it shouldn't be necessary. But trust has been lost. I still say it can end up creating more toxicity and putting a light on cheats and hackers; people who will only thrive on infamy and attention. Anyway, this is just a personal opinion and I'm not an expert...obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syln Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 No thanks, don't need, don't care :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNomad Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 15 hours ago, Navarchus said: ~snip HOTS does it really well. I can get on board with this. Something like Warframe rarely needs a true ban outside of toxic behavior or scamming but regardless, when something was as rampantly corrupted as CS:GO it was always nice getting that overwatch alert that you've done well and the offending hacker was taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--DSP--Jetstream Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 That only would give attention to cheaters and make them famous, like what happen in other game. Giving recognition to this kind of people is a bad move, glad DE knows better by not doing the same. And this game is free, what stopping them from making another account and continue ruining games, ban list would be their leaderboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 DE don't do it because they don't need to, they don't have a huge trust issue within the community so they don't need to post a list to prove they take action, nor does the game have enough bad actors that they need to heavily publicize bans to scare off potential offenders, and outside those two reasons there aren't any pros to making such a list public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarc Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 2018-09-09 at 1:21 AM, RetroNomad said: I can get on board with this. Something like Warframe rarely needs a true ban outside of toxic behavior or scamming but regardless, when something was as rampantly corrupted as CS:GO it was always nice getting that overwatch alert that you've done well and the offending hacker was taken care of. Yeah, just a notification that action has been taken so you're aware that the reports aren't being ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodKitten Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 well, as much as i'd love seeing another "H1Z1 callout on cheaters" that told them to make a video saying they were banned, the reason for it, and that they understand they did something wrong, in order to get thier account unbanned (video have to be public) but its not exactly nice to put people on the spot that way, since it can have concequances outside online. (work mate "hey, i saw your video that you cheated and stuff, dident knew you are this pathetic") just as example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupcakesMoo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 There once was a thing called ban link.. and it was abused to no end and as a result someone set it on fire. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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