(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I just got insta-suspended for literally no reason. I have screenshots/clips to prove this. The last time I sent a ticket to DE about this, they told me that there was nothing they could do, and I had to go through a week of no chat at all, despite PROVING that I said nothing wrong. It would be really great if the kickbot/suspension/ticket system was reworked so I didn't have to make posts about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellpestilence Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 U right boi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Ubern00ber88 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Inb4 lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Shodian Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: I just got insta-suspended for literally no reason 3 hours ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: no reason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 So. Show us the Screnshots/Clips to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidelgard Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Can you give us more details? I'm curious what did you say to trigger the kickbot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukinoki Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 6 hours ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: I just got insta-suspended for literally no reason. I have screenshots/clips to prove this. Riiight. That's what pretty much everyone says when they get hit with a ban. Mind showing us what exactly you said/did to get banned? Because otherwise its just another person claiming "I said nothing wrong..." when they actually did. And honestly the number of times its been brought up as almost always shown that the person claiming innocence was in the wrong. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tsukinoki said: Riiight. That's what pretty much everyone says when they get hit with a ban. Mind showing us what exactly you said/did to get banned? Because otherwise its just another person claiming "I said nothing wrong..." when they actually did. And honestly the number of times its been brought up as almost always shown that the person claiming innocence was in the wrong. People were talking about cats. I mentioned my favorite breed, the Maine Coon. That triggered Kickbot and now I can't chat at all with anyone for two weeks. Edited February 25, 2019 by (XB1)Erudite God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)abbacephas Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 11 hours ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: I just got insta-suspended for literally no reason. 1 minute ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: I mentioned my favorite breed, the Maine Coon. 2 minutes ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: That triggered Kickbot It would trigger kickbot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) It's the name of a cat breed. Obviously I didn't mean it as the slur. I didn't even know it was a slur until after. Edited February 25, 2019 by (XB1)Erudite God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Vortus_ Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: It's the name of a cat breed. Obviously I didn't mean it as the slur. I didn't even know it was a slur until after. Know its a cat breed. Though I am always suspicious of players that say they inadvertently use slurs. Especially players that have had it happen more than once. Innocent or trying to be cute, dunno. Now you know its a slur if you didn't before. Or if you were trying to be cute, you got caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalLogic420 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Wow, a lot of people proving themselves to be worse than OP by attacking, insulting, and coming at OP, assuming things. This isn't a forum to attack people, if you don't believe OP, then go somewhere and move on. No need for your negative feedback on someone's post, let's keep this place clean and friendly. I believe OP, because this happens way too often, to innocent people. OP doesn't need to prove anything to anyone other than DE. You're not entitled to proof from OP. OP, don't let them bother you. People believe you, but it's human nature -it seems- that those who believe you, stay quiet, while the very small number of doubters have very loud mouths and make it seem like more people disbelieve you, than there actually are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) I just don't want to be banned for two weeks for talking about my neighborhood cat. I wish I could contact DE and have them unban me, but the Chat Suspension category for tickets doesn't do anything. Edited February 25, 2019 by (XB1)Erudite God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)abbacephas Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 You can try appealing to Support. Outside of that, looks like you have no other alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Support doesn't deal with kickbot's auto-bans, "since they're only temporary" regardless of all other factors. Edited February 25, 2019 by (XB1)Erudite God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyTalker Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 "Did not even know that was a slur". This is topkek bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalLogic420 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, (NSW)TeddyTalks said: "Did not even know that was a slur". This is topkek bait. So back to reality, humans are far from perfect. It's ridiculous that DE expects us to magically know to look up slang/slurs so we don't accidentally use them. He clearly wasn't being racist, and shouldn't have been banned. This is one of many reasons why the kickbot system is heavily flawed and detrimental to the community. It needs a rework, yesterday. And even if he did know, refer back to "humand are far from perfect" because honest accidents/mistakes....we ALL make them. But you don't see everyone being punished everywhere for those honest mistakes, do you? No. Unless you're THAT unlucky that you haven't seen otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, (NSW)TeddyTalks said: "Did not even know that was a slur". This is topkek bait. I'm not a racist so I'm not familiar with every obscure slur out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Vortus_ Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, IllogicalLogic420 said: So back to reality, humans are far from perfect. It's ridiculous that DE expects us to magically know to look up slang/slurs so we don't accidentally use them. He clearly wasn't being racist, and shouldn't have been banned. This is one of many reasons why the kickbot system is heavily flawed and detrimental to the community. It needs a rework, yesterday. And even if he did know, refer back to "humand are far from perfect" because honest accidents/mistakes....we ALL make them. But you don't see everyone being punished everywhere for those honest mistakes, do you? No. Unless you're THAT unlucky that you haven't seen otherwise. Honest accidents/mistakes doesn't stop someone from incurring a penalty from that accident/mistake. Don't know if he was innocent or not. I don't know him, and only have his word to go by. And by his own words, it isn't the first time, and he claimed innocence for the first time as well.... Sorry, but had to believe. As a second time offender, be it bad luck or whatever, he might want to brush up on slurs to avoid them in future. Doesn't take long and might save him some stress later if it wasn't intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalLogic420 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, _Vortus_ said: Honest accidents/mistakes doesn't stop someone from incurring a penalty from that accident/mistake. Don't know if he was innocent or not. I don't know him, and only have his word to go by. And by his own words, it isn't the first time, and he claimed innocence for the first time as well.... Sorry, but had to believe. As a second time offender, be it bad luck or whatever, he might want to brush up on slurs to avoid them in future. Doesn't take long and might save him some stress later if it wasn't intentional. See I get that, I really do, I just think it's very unreasonable to expect every person to automatically know that they should learn all the slur/slang out there. That's a ridiculous demand by DE. A point-based or strike-based system would be more appropriate, to avoid issues like these, and allow forgiveness to silly mistakes like this. With the "learn the slang/slur" logic, then okay.....I'm going to make a word right now, and anyone who uses it, should know what it means, or else get banned. The word? Remdallahhimdoolay, and what does it mean? Idk, it's just very bad, it means bad things, dont use it or get banned. See how ridiculous that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, _Vortus_ said: And by his own words, it isn't the first time, and he claimed innocence for the first time as well.... Sorry, but had to believe. I had screenshots/proof which I sent to DE and was thoroughly ignored/disregarded by DE so I'm not going to waste my time again by sending another ticket. I am making this post because the same thing happened again - Kickbot suspended me by "accident" I said a no-no word but in an entirely appropriate, unoffensive context. The first time, it was because someone was spamming chat with random obnoxious garbage, and he said something like "tbh I'm gay guys, stop hatin" and I replied with "nobody cares that you're gay, just stop being annoying." Since I said "you're gay" I got suspended for two weeks. How is that fair? Is gay a bad word or not? Kickbot's "context detector" is tragically inept. There are so many harmless things that you can say that include "you're gay." What if a friend was just talking about their sexuality, and I remarked, "Oh, I didn't know that you're gay." Whether you get kicked for saying "gay" or not is basically arbitrary. There are certain ways of saying it that kickbot ignores, and certain ways that get you banned for weeks, and there is no way of learning the difference except by trial and error. It needs to be fixed. If you can say "I'm gay" and not get banned, I should be able to say "There's a pretty Maine Coon that lives around my apartment complex" without getting banned. Edited February 25, 2019 by (XB1)Erudite God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)chubbslawson Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 It is a pretty whacked out way of doing things. I guess I better not talk about going out coon hunting with our coonhounds when I was a youngster to make a little bit of money selling the coonskins to the fur buyers. Stupid system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalLogic420 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Exactly, because everyone knows that "coon" means "racoon", not anything racist. Some people made it racist? That's on them, not us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 hours ago, _Vortus_ said: Honest accidents/mistakes doesn't stop someone from incurring a penalty from that accident/mistake. Yes, but do you know what actually happens in real life when something like this happens? You get let off with a warning, a slap on the wrist at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyTalker Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 hours ago, IllogicalLogic420 said: So back to reality, humans are far from perfect. It's ridiculous that DE expects us to magically know to look up slang/slurs so we don't accidentally use them. He clearly wasn't being racist, and shouldn't have been banned. This is one of many reasons why the kickbot system is heavily flawed and detrimental to the community. It needs a rework, yesterday. And even if he did know, refer back to "humand are far from perfect" because honest accidents/mistakes....we ALL make them. But you don't see everyone being punished everywhere for those honest mistakes, do you? No. Unless you're THAT unlucky that you haven't seen otherwise. Do you honestly believe garbage like this? You clearly aren't familiar with online E-trolling, using similar names to say you aren't doing something you are. If you are in America and you haven't heard of this word, you been living under a rock. That is not excusable. 3 hours ago, (XB1)Erudite God said: I'm not a racist so I'm not familiar with every obscure slur out there. This just makes your argument look even weaker. Not racist because you don't know slurs? LOL. That has nothing to with anything. Nice meme. I doubt you are innocent and this probably is not the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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