(PSN)robotwars7 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 as long as the weapon's MR requirement reflects the stats, sure. higher rank weapons should be more powerful; people should have to work a little harder for the better guns. I'm close to MR 27 now myself and while it may not carry any real weight, the extra standing and trace caps always prove useful in the long term for Prime farming and new Syndicates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844448 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 hours ago, (XB1)Cubic Clem said: Yes, please. I'd be fine if we had higher Mr weapons that are not fodder and actually good from the get go.. what if I told you I can compete if not surpass opticor users with my Stradavar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) At the rate DE release New weapons, it is not surprising they have average requirement and stats. But to the point where old gears are more appealing than most new weapons is quite the stretch. Don't get me wrong, we had multiple great weapons but all of them were of average rank and add little to raise the bar. Kitgun and zaw are an exception but they are a problem on their own, offering so many possibility of combinaison to the point that we can't add something truly new without being gimmicky. Quite sad to think that now the only weapons that stands out are the one with gimmick because we can't have something new that has average stats. So people complain about fodder or DE running out of idea. I'll say it, we are saturated by average and decent weapons. Outside of prisma/prime variant, what really stoud out of the bunch? Edited June 20, 2019 by angias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibmobello Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 They should add kit rifles as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaSelenis Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 While it may indeed be annoying to some people, it deos give a purpose to push past MR16. I for example would like to see an alternative to the Amphrex, since its one of the few Weapons i enjoy using. I was thinking of something like a charge based lightning chain gun, that has a relatively high crit chance and something broken like a 4 or even 6 times base multiplier and of course the requirement of MR20. Could be fun, but would probably cause alot of people below said MR to get incredibly upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastaban75 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Tough to say. I think items ranked at 18 or above would certainly cause lots of complaints from a number of players - can't talk about percentages of course because it's always the vocal part of a community that complains about something. To be perfectly honest, I don't think it would be a good idea for DE because it would sound like they lock some items behind an arbitrary "mastery" stat that does not actually represent the real mastery of a player. I think if there were to be such high-MR items they would need to be very few and exceptional in nature, such as the primary or secondary equivalents of the Paracesis (the sentient-killers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) I am not suggesting to mainly release weapons ranked above rank 16, i suggest to release more weapons above rank 10. Edited June 20, 2019 by angias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844448 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, angias said: I am not suggesting to mainly release weapons ranked above rank 16, i suggest to release more weapons above rank 10. I don't think it's really necessary though, if that weapon is stronger it would make people scream powercreep or dismissing it as MR fodder if it's not any stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneYenShort Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I just thought they put more powerful weapons they have been releasing behind a grind fest vs mr fest to get around some of these complaints or to redirect complaints in different manners. I have zero clue if any of the weapons they have released as of late are wroth it though, such as the ones with profit taker and all the atmos systems stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) il y a 29 minutes, OneYenShort a dit : I just thought they put more powerful weapons they have been releasing behind a grind fest vs mr fest to get around some of these complaints or to redirect complaints in different manners. Fair point. il y a une heure, 844448 a dit : I don't think it's really necessary though, if that weapon is stronger it would make people scream powercreep or dismissing it as MR fodder if it's not any stronger People will complain regardless. Has long has DE release something, someone somewhere will complain. I do not bellieve in mr fodder and i'm getting tired of something average. Edited June 20, 2019 by angias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneYenShort Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 hours ago, angias said: I do not bellieve in mr fodder and i'm getting tired of something average. But do you believe in mrs fodder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, OneYenShort said: But do you believe in mrs fodder? Unlike Mr Fodder, Mrs Fodder doesn't require your belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Unlike Mr Fodder, Mrs Fodder doesn't require your belief. Is she married to Mr Fodder, or is this just a coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) il y a 9 minutes, OneYenShort a dit : But do you believe in mrs fodder? Got baited... Whatever. I believe the concept but the application praticly non existent, so i simply disregard it. Edited June 20, 2019 by angias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Renegade343 said: Is she married to Mr Fodder, or is this just a coincidence? I think she married Mr Fodders brother, Mr Fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneYenShort Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, MagPrime said: Unlike Mr Fodder, Mrs Fodder doesn't require your belief. yeah, just your Master Ducat card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, OneYenShort said: yeah, just your Master Ducat card. No, she only requires your obedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, MagPrime said: No, she only requires your obedience. Oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightCole Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 LOL, why make and add new guns? Take the existing 300 weapons in game and buff them all to useable levels.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) il y a 25 minutes, KnightCole a dit : all to useable levels.... What a peculiar choice of words. This mean nothing here. Max out a mk1-braton then you'll understand. Apologie. I guess it would be a better way around. De will still release new gears, it's just annoying they mostly target ''mid-game''. But if DE can afford doing that sure. Edited June 20, 2019 by angias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Tanta Cinta Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 MR 30 better have a wicked game breaking gun that utterly destroys enemies. I want no complaints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makunogo Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 a few things more or less related. but more so towards weapons.. i find weapons are way too easy to craft and the wait time to craft them is too long, i think this should be reversed. increase the materials required to make them and remove/significantly lower the build time. ( frames to 1 day and weapons to 6 hours for example) this would still be a wait but i personally find it more reasonable. the amount of required resources could also depend on the mr of the weapon/frame ect. currently orokin cell requirements on prime gear is pretty decent, wouldn't say it needs much of an increase. though if it did I wouldn't be too bothered, however i think we can all agree we dont want to increase the grind too much. however with shorter craft times that can make up for it. I would actually love them to make some MR 15-20 weapons. heck even higher up to maybe even 25. will it take a while for them to get it? probably. but thats not really the point. frankly idc if that "gates" newer players, it's not supposed to be for newer players.. it's about constant progression to be honest from what i have seen, most people have not wanted things to be high MR i can only assume cus they dont want to wait (fomo) but i think the game kind of needs it. more things to look forward to and to strive for as cheesy as it sounds it will incentivize people to rank up more, as currently going up in Mr tends to feel like a chore. id much rather if players had the " this weapon is pretty cool but it's MR 18, soon ill be able to use it " i am pretty sure most people have had a similar thought with certain weapons (cough gram prime on its release) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Dust Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Honestly we dont need better weapons we just need another MR change to weapons. cause many are way lower than they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)COA Altair Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 They should release more weapons in general. Infested lab in the dojo in particular has gotten nothing for a long while. They should be at least good or interesting weapons though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrix923 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I’m at mr14 and I’m bummed that’s it for the weapons. DE make some really hard missions with the reward being new weapon parts for higher rank players. Or every rank after 14 has a mission and the reward is a new weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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