VVVVVVEmersonFisioVVVVVV Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Good night. Came here to ask for a small buff to mag, started playing the frame this week, shes very good and all. But some stuff of her kit are lackluster. Change the passive, thats useless with vacuum and fetch. Give it the ability to restore shields whit energy spent at 100% rate. and Crush, the skill is useless rn. Polarize is much better killing trash mobs than it. Change Crush to a radial wave that do 400 + 400 / 500 + 500 / 725 + 725 / 1000 + 1000 magnetic + blast damage. Give it status chance, so will have some CC. Give it the same range and duration of Polarize. U can get rid of the bonus dmg of Crush + Magnetize, another useless stuff. And give it shield regen + overshields. GG, its so easy to see and make. Cheers. Edited November 15, 2019 by ShiruBiru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Crush is meant to deal a little damage, give you some breathing room with a little CC, but mostly give you and your teams overshields. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 lol *checks OP's proflie* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVVVVVEmersonFisioVVVVVV Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, (XB1)Erudite Prime said: Crush is meant to deal a little damage, give you some breathing room with a little CC, but mostly give you and your teams overshields. Less than a sec CC, overshilds? Bruh it give what? 200 overshield at best? cmon. Dmg will stay low, will just change to magnetic + blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 You can stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 My Mag's crush gives max overshields every time, which is 1200. Changing it to Mag + Blast won't do much considering how weak Blast is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I can't see any of those changes doing much at all for her. The passive change is redundant with Polarize and Crush while her current passive is useful if you either don't run Fetch/Vacuum or your companion is dead. Also magnetic as a damage type is just as mediocre as blast. Both are weak to the two types of Grineer armor which matters little when she can strip it anyways. It also already has CC effects with the suspension and knockdown. If she needs a change it's to rework Magnetic procs like Ember got for Heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmml Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 No. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1opPwZDaUjfq-UB9SPOI_xRvDhhnaJ-ES9hF24DImazI/edit?usp=sharing And you're welcome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, (XB1)Erudite Prime said: Crush is meant to deal a little damage, give you some breathing room with a little CC, but mostly give you and your teams overshields. Yea, idk why everyone expects an ability that can do damage, should only be used for its damage. With crush you can get maxed over shield with what, 1-2 casts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jaggerwanderer Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Mag isn't a nuker frame. She's more of a CC frame than anything with some utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Mag is the (only) long range nuke frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Crush is CC and over shield generator. It is not intended for damage, unless at relatively low levels against corpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1NParticular31 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, ShiruBiru said: U can get rid of the bonus dmg with Magnetize, another useless stuff (the dmg buff it self) Um no. If you don't like Magnetize, it's because you haven't learned to use it properly. Mag is a "boss" destroying machine when used properly and with the right type of weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 That being said, it would be cool if Mag's passive was just that she gained shields on ability cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmml Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 12 hours ago, (XB1)Erudite Prime said: That being said, it would be cool if Mag's passive was just that she gained shields on ability cast. No. Her passive is fine. As is her entire kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVVVVVEmersonFisioVVVVVV Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, No1NParticular31 said: Um no. If you don't like Magnetize, it's because you haven't learned to use it properly. Mag is a "boss" destroying machine when used properly and with the right type of weapons. not the skill magnetize, God. u guys cant read. What ppl see with mag passive? Crush overshield only work for star chart stuff, lvl 150+ that means nothing.... What u guys think if it was at least a radial wave, much better no? Edited November 11, 2019 by ShiruBiru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekkii Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 They need to look at shields in general if Mag is ever going to be any good. As it stands Magnetize is her only good ability, and Polarize is only good with its augment. If shields were actually any kind of defense, she would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVVVVVEmersonFisioVVVVVV Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zekkii said: They need to look at shields in general if Mag is ever going to be any good. As it stands Magnetize is her only good ability, and Polarize is only good with its augment. If shields were actually any kind of defense, she would be great. thats exactly what im saying here, all what we do is spawn 2 and 3 + augment... Instead of overshields, Crush cud give shield regen and overshield, and being a radial wave will help alot with mag survivability... Edited November 12, 2019 by ShiruBiru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmml Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 hours ago, ShiruBiru said: not the skill magnetize, God. u guys cant read. What ppl see with mag passive? Crush overshield only work for star chart stuff, lvl 150+ that means nothing.... What u guys think if it was at least a radial wave, much better no? Read the guide I linked you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmml Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Zekkii said: They need to look at shields in general if Mag is ever going to be any good. As it stands Magnetize is her only good ability, and Polarize is only good with its augment. If shields were actually any kind of defense, she would be great. Same goes for you. Read the guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekkii Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, Simmml said: Same goes for you. Read the guide. The guide is fine, but it doesn't change the validity of my statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterOfMyOwn Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) ^ I agree shields are not good except for hildryn due to several things specific to her (like her passive and the fact that you can go vazarin because you don't need Zenurik dash). The ability to spend a lot of energy to have a mere 2k shields only if ennemies are close is just "survival" not "tanking", and even with adaptation it won't prevent from being one-shot (for that purpose rolling guard can be even better). I'm a Mag main, I've even soloed the Profit taker with her, I've tried with a "normal" build, the 2k shields were out in less than 2s (literally, I recorded it), then I went for a specific build and done it but it was "not playing mag" (Vazarin Dash, rolling guard, adaptation... these 3 things makes the profit taker doable by any frame). Edited November 12, 2019 by MonsterOfMyOwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmml Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Zekkii said: The guide is fine, but it doesn't change the validity of my statement. You didnt read then. Because the guide tells you why all her abilities are fine as is and why/how shields work well on Mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekkii Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Simmml said: You didnt read then. Because the guide tells you why all her abilities are fine as is and why/how shields work well on Mag. Ah my mistake, the guide isn't fine then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Simmml said: Her passive is fine. explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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