Prime Resurgence Dev Workshop & FAQ

[bicepday]

Nekros prime accessories should not be more than 3 regal aya in my opinion. Making it more than 20$ purchasable will discourage lot of players including me to get it

[LORDZEPHYRPrime]

2021/11/3 AM3点05分 , [DE]Danielle 说:

Prime Resurgence also gives us a space in-game where we can continue to:

• Bring back highly awaited Prime items, including accessories. 
• Provide more flexible purchasing options through Regal Aya.   
• Allow players to purchase the exact Relics they need through Aya.
• Release evergreen rewards (rewards that are permanent) in Varzia’s store:
  • For purchase with Regal Aya:
    • Non-Program Prime Gear:
      • Burston Prime
      • Fang Prime
      • Lex Prime
      • Braton Prime
  • Premium Twitch Prime and other Prime Gaming content that has yet to be re-released since their original run. 
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Can the previously released TENNO CON Accessories also be re-released?

[ChaseEmoff]

On 2021-11-11 at 10:11 PM, (XBOX)drakolich21 said:

You say that regal Aya has the same cost-to-value rate than vault packs, but it's not true. 3 regal Aya at $20 gets you just 1 accessory set, but accessory packs at $20 also include 200p.

I think for this reason they should include platinum in Regal Aya pack. 

[SneakyErvin]

19 hours ago, Vavency said:

It will still feel like a price hike due to an absence of platinum.

Endo is simply worthless compared to platinum in all but one instance even for a newer players, it has to be a choice made by the customer not the company.

So you're saying that I as a paying customer should be thankful to spend 20, 50 or even 120$, getting less for my cash?

The thing is you never actually payed for the platinum just as you wont pay for the endo, that is my point. You pay for the primes and the accessories, the plat/endo are gift bonuses. And in both old and new, the gift value is about the same in that perspective. We dont have to like it, but DE could just as easily remove the gifts from the packages as a whole since they have no obligation to give us those free items since the packs are priced based on the prime/cosmetic content within.

19 hours ago, PublikDomain said:

That's just absurd.

Yes I agree, but it is also free. I understand why players are upset by the change because a very appealing item is removed, but it is still a gift in the end and not what we actually pay for. That is what people need to consider.

And people wanting plat added straight to Regal Aya bundles are disingenuous imo because they want both the benefit of the new selective purchase system and the benefit of bundles at the same time. 

We also dont know if there is more behind the scenes regarding why the free plat was removed from these bundles. Maybe there is a pattern that makes these free plat handouts detrimental to normal plat sales, a revenue stream needed for the development of the game. DE arent bound to tell us those specifics, especially regarding something that is considered a free item.

16 hours ago, sapphicReprobate said:

Dang your math is worse than DE's, 1200 plat will buy you 374,000 endo on Warframe Market right now with no haggling or shopping. 50k is actively ludicrous as a replacement.

Those are simply put player determined values. DE has their own value on plat/endo, DE doesnt control the warframe.market.

15 hours ago, Voltage said:

Okay then would you be fine with Credit caches instead that reflect the cost of High Roller Credit bundles? New players need Credits too right?

In essence yes, since it is a free bonus not tied to the price of the pack. They could remove the bonus as a whole aswell.

[XXSierra117XX]

24 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

The thing is you never actually payed for the platinum just as you wont pay for the endo, that is my point. You pay for the primes and the accessories, the plat/endo are gift bonuses. And in both old and new, the gift value is about the same in that perspective. We dont have to like it, but DE could just as easily remove the gifts from the packages as a whole since they have no obligation to give us those free items since the packs are priced based on the prime/cosmetic content within.

Yes I agree, but it is also free. I understand why players are upset by the change because a very appealing item is removed, but it is still a gift in the end and not what we actually pay for. That is what people need to consider.

And people wanting plat added straight to Regal Aya bundles are disingenuous imo because they want both the benefit of the new selective purchase system and the benefit of bundles at the same time. 

We also dont know if there is more behind the scenes regarding why the free plat was removed from these bundles. Maybe there is a pattern that makes these free plat handouts detrimental to normal plat sales, a revenue stream needed for the development of the game. DE arent bound to tell us those specifics, especially regarding something that is considered a free item.

Those are simply put player determined values. DE has their own value on plat/endo, DE doesnt control the warframe.market.

In essence yes, since it is a free bonus not tied to the price of the pack. They could remove the bonus as a whole aswell.

 So DE just happened to be so, so kind for the last 6 years by giving us "bonus" 10$ worth of platinum in every 20$ purchase? What the ****?

And you seem to be making the veiled threat that everyone should just shut up and take what they give us other wise they will just take away the 200p for Prime Vault Accessories?

I dare them to. Not just me, I am pretty sure a sizeable contingent of existing player base would dare them to try and remove the Prime Vault or the 200p part of it.

Are they free to do whatever they want, as you so shallowly claim? Sure.

And the players are free to start taking DE's name in the same breath as Ubisoft, Activision and Bungie and their rotten monetization practices. Several prominent youtubers and streamers are already recommending players to stay away from Regal Aya, once this goes live a lot more would follow.

Their carefully curated image until now of a player-friendly and honest (atleast more than the other major gaming companies) will be dragged through the mud.

I was wondering why people talk about you like that, but your reputation as their doormat is well-deserved mate.

[SneakyErvin]

18 minutes ago, XXSierra117XX said:

And you seem to be making the veiled threat that everyone should just shut up and take what they give us other wise they will just take away the 200p for Prime Vault Accessories?

What? I'm simply saying what they could do without actually changing what we pay for. Everything except the cosmetics have a free path in the game, there is no need to buy PA or PV if you dont find any value in them. So if you dont like the future of the bundles, dont buy them.

edit: I will see value in the new system because I grind frames and weapons, so I'll be able to cherry pick the cosmetics when/if I like. The addition or lack of platinum wont change if I pick up some cosmetics or not.

 

[Voltage]

51 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

In essence yes, since it is a free bonus not tied to the price of the pack. They could remove the bonus as a whole aswell.

"Bonus" Platinum is the same type of marketing as "Bonus" Regal Aya or how Bethesda discounted a holiday bundle in the Atomic Shop of Fallout 76 when there was no non-discounted version of the bundle. Platinum adds value to previous Vault purchases and you can't just claim it has no value (or the same as "Bonus" Endo) added to the package purchase because it is labeled as a "Bonus".

My original comment towards you was to outline this problem and you seem to have missed it or are buying into the cheap marketing being used.

[SneakyErvin]

1 minute ago, Voltage said:

"Bonus" Platinum is the same type of marketing as "Bonus" Regal Aya or how Bethesda discounted a holiday bundle in the Atomic Shop of Fallout 76 when there was no non-discounted version of the bundle. Platinum adds value to previous Vault purchases and you can't just claim it has no value added to the package purchase because it is labeled as a "Bonus".

Of course it adds value, all I'm saying is that it doesnt raise the price of the bundle. Which is why it is a free bonus that can be taken away at some point. Like I said, we dont know everything regarding this change and we really have no right to, but there might actually be a reason for it. If people dont accept the new approach no one is forcing them to spend on it. 

No amount of platinum in the past have urged me to pick up the bundles, only the items inside are of interest to me when deciding if I should spend or not. Now I wont have to care about packs.

[Voltage]

6 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

Of course it adds value, all I'm saying is that it doesnt raise the price of the bundle. Which is why it is a free bonus that can be taken away at some point.

That's not how that works. If it's increasing the bundle value then removing it without changing the price of the bundle is equal to increasing the cost of the bundle as you are getting less for what you used to spend at the same price point.

People are complaining because DE is advertising a system where you get less for the same price and are trying to pull a fast one by doubling down that Endo has any sort of merit replacing Platinum and their justification isn't even good. "Player choice" doesn't get to substitute consistent pricing, especially when that was the initial wording of the post. Saying 1:1 and then further explaining how it isn't is disingenuous at best.

The pricing errors that they since corrected was only a surface level issue, and most people in this thread are aware of that.

[iFlipWiGs]

I want the plat the came with packs its half the value. 

[(NSW)Tamefox]

On 2021-11-02 at 7:05 PM, [DE]Danielle said:

Endo and Platinum are both bonuses added to the pack at no additional cost to the player. 

Not only that, but Endo is an incredibly important resource needed in powering up your Prime gear with Mods. It’s addition into the packs was made with the intention of giving you the tools you need to get your Arsenal ready for The New War. 

Yeh sorry, you guys have just completely lost the plot here…I mean don’t get me wrong as a Switch player since 2018 I’ve bought plat at an inflated cost (it’s almost mandatory given the limited player base) …but this statement is delusional if you ask me…players more often buy the access FOR the plat and definitely not for key rings for our swords. 

sorry DE, much as I love you, you lost my custom on this one

[Qui-Les]

On 2021-11-02 at 3:05 PM, [DE]Danielle said:

Edit 2:00 pm, Nov 12th - Adjusted Prime Accessories Price

Meet Varzia, former Dax.

A new time-limited scheduled event is landing in Maroo’s Bazaar on all Platforms November 16th: Prime Resurgence!

Not only is this the return of a slew of Prime Vaulted items (and more!), but also the discussion of the Prime Vault program as a whole. In this Dev Workshop, we will be going over several core areas of Prime Resurgence to explain what it is, how it works, and share some insight into the Dev decision-making process. More importantly, we will dive into how Prime Resurgence addresses player feedback about Prime Vault.

But first, a bit of history is needed! 
 

The History of Prime Vault

Monetizing a free-to-play game is a balancing act. Prime Access has led the way for us to being able to routinely release premium content and accessories for players that are looking for Premium fashions (Prime Accessories), while providing all players with free access to some of the best gear in the game (Prime Warframes & Weapons). The Prime Vault program started in 2015 as a way for us to return Prime Warframes, Weapons, Accessories, and more from Prime Access Packs that had gone into retirement. We needed a way for Prime content to make its way back around to players, so that if they missed it the first time, they had another chance to either purchase the packs outright or earn Prime parts via Relics. We kicked this off with the unvaulting of Frost Prime, Reaper Prime, Latron Prime, and the Misa Prime Syandana and continued the cycle ever since, opening up the doors to the Vault every several months throughout the year. 

The Prime Vault program has undergone many changes over the years, all driven by player feedback and requests. To name a few: 

• Added standalone Accessory Packs. 
  • Prior to this change Accessories could only be obtained through the largest pack available. We first offered this option in July 2018 with the release of Nyx Prime and Rhino Prime, and have continued to offer separate Accessory Packs.
• Permanently unvaulted Valkyr Prime and Nyx Prime Relics into Corpus Railjack missions to help alleviate the backlog of vaulted Prime content in Update 29.10.0. 
• Utilized Twitch Drops during TennoCon to earn Vaulted Prime Warframes for free.
  • Loki Prime, Hydroid Prime, Nekros Prime, and Ash Prime. 
• Added Volt Prime and Odonata Prime Vaulted Relics to Baro Ki’Teer’s rotation of Offerings. 
  • First appearance in Baro was March 9th, 2018.
• And many more...
   

The theme here is to offer more choice and quicker access to Vaulted Prime content. Which is where Prime Resurgence comes in…

Prime Vault meet Prime Resurgence

We first announced that we are looking at running a Prime Vault event of sorts on Devstream 156 - and Prime Resurgence is just that! It is our first attempt at offering an alternative to Prime Vault: A one-stop shop to gain access to Vaulted Prime content and Relics with a fully transparent schedule that allows players time to plan.  

Varzia, a Dax from the Old War (who may seem like a familiar face to some), will appear in Maroo’s Bazaar November 16th on all Platforms with Prime goods for you to obtain. You can either purchase Relics from her Wares with Aya (free path) or gain instant access to Prime items and bundles with Regal Aya (purchase path).*

*Currencies are explained further in the FAQ section below. 

One thing we want to really drive home is that there is absolutely no scenario in which a player cannot do what they could do before with Prime Vault. More specifically, Prime Resurgence maintains the same two options to gaining access to Prime goods: 

• Instant access through purchasing
• Free path access through gameplay

Pricing specifications and comparisons are available below in the FAQ section. 
 

While Prime Resurgence maintains some things from Prime Vault, it equally addresses some of the biggest feedback points, but on a much bigger scale. 

The Wind in Dev’s Sails

The following two factors prompted a thorough evaluation and consideration of player feedback, which remained at the forefront throughout Prime Resurgence’s development:  

1. Lack of Access

A domino effect has been created with Prime Vault in its current state, which has turned into a cycle of: 

Unvaulting Rotation Cadence + Repetition -> Growing list of Primes in the Vault  -> Limited Acquisition Options

Since 2019, we have only been unvaulting new Warframes with the exception of Ember Prime, Frost Prime (which had been brought back 4 times*), and the currently live Nyx Prime and Rhino Prime Vault. With 24 Warframes and 42 Weapons in the Vault, releasing 2 Warframes and their Weapons at a time means you may find yourself waiting far longer than you’d be willing to for your favorites to come back into rotation. We have run into the issue where we are vaulting more Primes than we are unvaulting, and managing a rotation cadence that can keep up with that just isn’t feasible anymore. 

*Prime Vault in 2020 was affected by the throes of a packed development cycle that had us defaulting to the previous Prime Vault set ups, which required far less pressure on the Dev team. While we understand these were very real reasons for such repetition, it was not ideal and something we’d like to continue to avoid in the future.  

We see this exact situation with Mag Prime, who has had the longest unvaulting gap at almost 3 years since her last appearance. For our Nintendo Switch Tenno, who entered Warframe’s list of supported platforms on November 20th, 2018, they missed the first two unvaultings in 2016/2017 and only had a limited run at the Mag Prime and Nova Prime Vault in 2018.

We recognize how this affects the ways players acquire Vaulted Primes - aside from Unvaulting, the only other opportunities are to trade parts or find and squad up with other players who have the Relics they need. While this player-led ecosystem helps us maintain a free path for Vaulted content in-game outside of the Unvaulting cadence, we are looking for ways to introduce an organized increase of supply for players.
 

Prime Resurgence breaks the cycle of lack of access in the following ways: 

• Addressing the backlog in the Prime Vault by making a large list of Vaulted items available across all platforms on a scheduled rotation. No surprises, full schedule, easy to follow Event!
• Addressing the lack of acquisition options by centralizing Vaulted items in-game and offering far more options by:
  • Making Vaulted Relics available for purchase with Aya, which is obtained via free-path gameplay.
  • Making Prime Vault Packs AND individual Prime items available for purchase with Regal Aya. 
    • Prime Vault does not allow for you to purchase individual items, only tiers of packs. With Prime Resurgence you have the freedom to use your Regal Aya beyond packs.

2. Store & Drop Table Management

Part of the Dev Cycle for Prime Vaults includes a 5-piece store management workload across all our platform partners. We are looking for a way to offset the constant bundle management into a universal new Vault Currency, Regal Aya. This would be a huge improvement for us in how we make Prime content available across all Platforms, as it would reduce the amount of time and resources needed for backend setup.

Additionally, the introduction of Aya in the place of Vaulted Relics means we no longer need to hand-curate drop tables for Vaultings and Unvaultings, since one new currency allows players the choice of what Vaulted Relics to buy. 

Overall, we’re simplifying the process for both ourselves and players! 

Prime Resurgence also gives us a space in-game where we can continue to:

• Bring back highly awaited Prime items, including accessories. 
• Provide more flexible purchasing options through Regal Aya.   
• Allow players to purchase the exact Relics they need through Aya.
• Release evergreen rewards (rewards that are permanent) in Varzia’s store:
  • For purchase with Regal Aya:
    • Non-Program Prime Gear:
      • Burston Prime
      • Fang Prime
      • Lex Prime
      • Braton Prime
  • Premium Twitch Prime and other Prime Gaming content that has yet to be re-released since their original run. 
• For purchase with Aya:
  • 5x Orokin Ducats
  • Apris Syandana
  • Necraloid Bundle 
    • Includes Glyph, Emblem, and Sigil 
  • Spektaka Liset Skin

Prime Resurgence not only opens the Vault doors, but also those of opportunity to build on the years of experience improving the systems in Warframe. We prioritize maintaining fair free-to-play and purchase options, something that remains an important part of Warframe’s history. 

Prime Vault (in addition to Prime Access) sales have been incredibly important to sustaining Warframe's development over the years. We are extremely grateful for your continued support and are looking forward to hearing about your experiences with Prime Resurgence! This event will end January 25, 2022, after which time we’ll keep everyone aware of what the future holds! Please keep feedback constructive and remember that the best kind of feedback comes from experiencing the event first hand when it launches November 16th.

Update Nov. 12th - Prime Accessories Adjustments

We have made a change to some Regal Aya item prices - our original intentions were to base prices on the best Regal Aya value per dollar but players have correctly pointed out things should match the Prime Vault Accessories as closely as possible within the new event structure when it comes to the Cosmetics involved. That feedback went into the following changes:

Prime Accessories that were previously valued at 3 Regal Aya have been changed to 2 Regal Aya. This includes:

• Prime Armor Sets
• Prime Operator Accessories and the Saita Prime Suit
• Kavasa Kubrow Prime Set

And for added transparency on specific Regal Aya values per item: 

• Prime Syandanas = 2 Regal Aya
• Prime Sugatras = 1 Regal Aya 
• Prime Sigils = 1 Regal Aya 
• Prime Sentinel Accessories = 1 Regal Aya 
• Prime Liset Skin & Decoration = 1 Regal Aya 
• Prime Extractors & Blueprints = 1 Regal Aya 

We do want to make a point of saying that not all accessories combinations will equal the exact pricing of a traditional Prime Vault Accessories Pack. Item combination is at player discretion since every Prime Vault item will be available for individual selection. The accompanying Warframes in rotations have varying accessory types and amounts. The Nekros Prime accessories, for example, has the Uru Prime Syandana (2 Regal Aya) and the Acanthus Prime Armor Set (2 Regal Aya) for a total of 4 Regal Aya if purchased together through Prime Resurgence. While others, such as the Nova Prime pack with the Edo Prime Armor Set (2 Regal Aya) and the Verlorum Prime Sigil (1 Regal Aya), maintain the 3 Regal Aya to one Prime Accessories Pack value. 

We would be remiss if we were unaware of the reasons for the popularity of Prime Accessories Packs, the biggest being the inclusion of bonus Platinum. To quote from the Workshop; “We simply cannot justify or reason with having players pay for one premium currency to purchase another.” But we understand that Platinum increases the value of the packs for players. While those differences in value vary between Prime Vault Packs and Prime Resurgence rotations, our intent is to establish a happy medium by offering all of the scheduled primed Accessories over several months (with the freedom to purchase individual items). Individual Primed Accessories give players more choice - a new and far more flexible approach to Prime Accessories access. Instead of waiting for a Primed Accessory to become available through a single Prime Vault rotation, you now have the option to hand-pick your favorites from several. 

With the decrease of 3 to 2 Regal Aya for a handful of Accessories, that freedom of choice is increased that much more for players to determine that value where they see fit! The full schedule of rotations (and the Prime Accessories for those rotations) is available in the Workshop FAQ above, so that you can plan your future Regal Aya purchases if you choose to do so!

As stated in the Workshop, we will be intently watching for feedback during and after the event has run and will be reviewing data for future decision making (in the event that we choose to continue with Prime Resurgence.)

Thank you, Tenno!

The following FAQ section covers the more granular elements of Prime Resurgence we feel are important to give transparency on! 

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PRIME RESURGENCE FAQ: 

How do the Prime Resurgence rotations work? 

This event runs on a weekly schedule of rotations. You can view the schedule in-game at Varzia at any time to plan your Prime gear goals! The full schedule is also available on our website. 

What are the rotation dates and specifics? 

• NOV 16: Mag Prime & Nova Prime
  • Dakra Prime
  • Boar Prime
  • Soma Prime
  • Vasto Prime
  • Targis Prime Armor
  • Distilling Extractor Prime & Blueprint
  • Edo Prime Armor
  • Velorum Prime Sigil
• NOV 23: Limbo Prime & Trinity Prime
  • Pyrana Prime
  • Destreza Prime
  • Dual Kamas Prime
  • Oblivia Prime Syandana
  • Rift Walker Prime Sigil
  • Kavasa Prime Kubrow Set
  • Naviga Prime Sugatra
• NOV 30: Mesa Prime & Hydroid Prime
  • Nami Skyla Prime
  • Ballistica Prime
  • Akjagara Prime
  • Redeemer Prime
  • Spritsail Prime Armor 
  • Sardin Prime Sugatra
  • Mesa Prime Montesa Helmet
  • Operator Prime Accessories
  • Cholla Prime Sugatra
• DEC 7: Volt Prime & Loki Prime
  • Odonata Prime
  • Bo Prime
  • Wyrm Prime
  • Edo Prime Armor
  • Kazeru Prime Sugatra
  • Summus Prime Sentinel Accessories
  • Daman Prime Sugatra
• DEC 14: Vauban Prime & Ash Prime
  • Vectis Prime
  • Carrier Prime
  • Akstiletto Prime
  • Fragor Prime
  • Yamako Prime Syandana
  • Unda Prime Sentinel Accessories
  • Citadella Prime Syandana
  • Cateno Prime Sugatra
• DEC 21: Oberon Prime & Nekros Prime
  • Tigris Prime
  • Galatine Prime
  • Sybaris Prime
  • Silva & Aegis Prime
  • Uru Prime Syandana
  • Acanthus Prime Armor 
  • Sukira Prime Syandana
  • Aroka Prime Sugatra
• DEC 28: Saryn Prime & Valkyr Prime
  • Spira Prime
  • Nikana Prime
  • Cernos Prime
  • Venka Prime
  • Cycuta Prime Syandana
  • Cycuta Prime Sigil
  • Liset Prime Skin
  • Saita Prime Suit
• JAN 4: Ember Prime & Frost Prime
  • Sicarus Prime
  • Glaive Prime
  • Latron Prime
  • Reaper Prime
  • Pyra Prime Syandana
  • Titan Extractor Prime & Blueprint
  • Misa Prime Syandana
• JAN 11, 2022: 2-Part Finale begins! 
  • Everything above + Nyx Prime & Rhino Prime
    • Scindo Prime
    • Hikou Prime
    • Ankyros Prime
    • Boltor Prime
    • Targis Prime Armor Set
    • Vala Prime Sugatra 
    • Noru Prime Syandana 
    • Distilling Extractor Prime & Blueprint
• JAN 25, 2022: Prime Resurgence Ends! 

What happens in the Finale Rotation? 

The final Prime Resurgence rotation ends on January 11th, 2022, but will be followed by a two week finale for a last chance at all of Varzia’s wares. All the Prime offerings will be scheduled into two parts:

Finale Week 1 = Rotations 1 through 4
Finale Week 2 = Rotations 5 through 8 
*Both weeks will include Nyx Prime and Rhino Prime

So if you missed out during the regular rotations you have one last chance to grow your Prime collection during the event. 
 

What happens to Varzia’s shop once Prime Resurgence ends? 

Varzia is quite comfortable hanging out with Maroo in her Bazaar, so she will set up shop permanently and continue to offer evergreen items for purchase. 

Will Prime Resurgence return at a later date? Will it replace Prime Vault?

Community feedback and overall participation will be monitored throughout Prime Resurgence’s event run to determine if it will ultimately be replacing the Prime Vault program or appear alongside it. This decision will not be made lightly and will require a lot of data before we can make a more permanent commitment. We do anticipate running some Prime Vaults throughout 2022 while this decision is being made, so as to not disrupt player accessibility to Vaulted content.

What is Aya and Regal Aya? 

These are the currencies that are used to purchase items from Varzia! 

Aya is an earned currency that is your free path to gaining Prime items through the in-game Relic system. It is a resource that is exchanged for Void Relics and other non-premium items available in Varzia’s wares. Aya is found in Missions (The Void or Bounties) or has a chance of appearing in Relic Packs available for purchase in the Market for Platinum or Syndicate Offerings for Standing.

Aya will be replacing Vaulted Relics in the Void and Bounties Drop Tables. In other words, where there was once a Vaulted Relic, there will now be 1 Aya instead. And that Aya can be traded in at Varzia to purchase Relics of your choosing during Prime Resurgence. 

The public Drop Tables will be updated on November 16th when the event begins to include Aya, so that you have all the information you need to plan your missions to Aya acquiring!

Regal Aya is a premium currency (similar to Platinum, but not tradeable) that gives you instant access to Prime Warframes, Weapons, Accessories, and Bundles available in Varzia’s wares. It can be purchased in the Market or online storefronts. 

Will new premium currencies be added in the future? 

We have no plans to add more premium currencies at this time. 

Why can’t I trade Regal Aya? 

Regal Aya is untradeable to maintain the premium prestige that comes with Prime Accessories. In principle, all Prime Accessories have remained a cash-only transaction, and Regal Aya continues that since it is paid only. 

Why Regal Aya and not Platinum? 

As mentioned in the Workshop above, we needed a way to offset the store-management issues Prime Vault has while maintaining the value of all Prime Accessories. 

What happens to Aya/Regal Aya after the event ends?

Since Varzia’s shop will remain open afterward the event ends with limited selection, you will be able to use your remaining Aya/Regal Aya if desired. 

Similar to other in-game events/operations, with a special event-only reward shop, once the event concludes so do the ways to acquire the event-currency. That said, Aya will no longer be able to be acquired in Void missions or Bounties or in Relic Packs and Regal Aya will no longer be able to be purchased. 

Will more things require Regal Aya in the future? 

Regal Aya will always be exclusively tied to the Primed Resurgence content. In the event that we continue with the program, things within the Prime Vault would be added to Varzia’s offerings and require Regal Aya. There will always be evergreen rewards that will remain in her shop after the event is over.

What requires Aya vs. Regal Aya to purchase? And why?

All of Varzia’s wares maintain their previous acquisition methods. If something was purchase-only via Prime Vault, it will appear in her shop as such (Prime Accessories for example) and will require Regal Aya to purchase. While others that have been previously released through a free-path method, will maintain that as well using free-path Aya.
 

Why are certain vaulted Warframes not available through Varzia? 

Since we aren’t committing fully to Prime Resurgence returning until we complete this first run, we want to make sure there are Prime Warframes that can continue under the Prime Vault program. The decision making process simply involved seeing which Warframes were recently vaulted or unvaulted, since the gap from being available to Vault isn’t as extreme. The following Warframes fall under these two categories:

• Recently Vaulted:
  • Equinox Prime - 23/02/2021
  • Wukong Prime - 25/05/2021
• Recently Unvaulted:
  • Banshee Prime - 15/12/2020
  • Mirage Prime - 15/12/2020
  • Chroma Prime - 27/04/2021
  • Zephyr Prime - 27/04/2021
     

You may notice that Nyx Prime and Rhino Prime are not included in the ‘Recently Unvaulted’ list, that is because they will be available during the finale. Since Nyx Prime’s Relics are already permanently unvaulted via Corpus Railjack missions, and Rhino shares a pairing with her, we were able to include them as part of Prime Resurgence with little added work involved. Considering these two have already had all of the background setup done prior to the event, it was a quick and easy add. 

How does Pack pricing compare to Prime Vault? 

Regal Aya Pack prices are valued as closely as possible with what you could get before in the Prime Vault Packs (keeping in mind that Bundles will always have the best Regal Aya value vs. individual purchases). That was a major priority when determining the exchange of Regal Aya to premium purchases in Varzia’s shop. 

Let’s get into the specifics and price breakdowns (using USD as reference):

Taking the current Nyx Prime and Rhino Prime Vault pricing: 

• The Rhino Prime and Nyx Prime individual packs = 39.99 USD
• The Rhino Prime and Nyx Prime individual Accessories Pack = 19.99 USD
• The Dual Rhino Prime and Nyx Prime pack = 59.99 USD

Each individual item has the following Regal Aya values: 

• Prime Warframe = 3 Regal Aya
• Prime Weapon = 2 Regal Aya
• Prime Accessories vary based on size and type, with the values potentially being: 
  • Prime Accessory = 1 Regal Aya
  • Prime Syandanas* = 2 Regal Aya

Nov. 12th - Update on Prime Accessories Price Adjustments: 

A Single Prime Warframe Bundle in Prime Resurgence is valued at 6 Regal Aya and includes: 

• 1x Prime Warframe (3 Regal Aya)
• 2x Prime Weapons (4 Regal Aya)
  • So you are getting a 1 Regal Aya discount. 
• 10k Endo (Bonus!) 

A Dual Prime Warframe Bundle in Prime Resurgence is valued at 10 Regal Aya and includes: 

• 2x Prime Warframe (6 Regal Aya) 
• 4x Prime Weapons (8 Regal Aya)
  • So you are getting a 4 Regal Aya discount. 
• 50k Endo (Bonus!) 

*And each pack includes its own collection of accessories. 

There are 3 Regal Aya packs available for purchase: 

• Regal Aya x3 = 19.99 USD
• Regal Aya x7 = 39.99 USD
  • Getting the value of 6 Regal Aya when purchasing two of the x3 pack, with a bonus Regal Aya.
• Regal Aya x15 = 79.99 USD
  • Getting the value of 14 Regal Aya when purchasing two of the x7 pack, with a bonus Regal Aya.

Meaning Regal Aya values equals to the same in the current Vault pricing:

• Purchasing a Prime Accessory Set = 3 Regal Aya or 19.99 USD
  • The same as most individual Accessories Packs. 
    • Note that this varies for some Prime Accessory Bundles, require 4 Regal Aya (ex. Nekros Prime Accessories) 
       
• Purchasing a Prime Warframe individual pack = 6 Regal Aya or 39.99 USD 
  • The same as an individual Prime Vault Pack with the added 1 Regal Aya bonus if you purchase the x7 Regal Aya pack. 
• Purchasing a Dual Prime Pack = 10 Regal Aya or 79.99 USD 
  • The same as a Dual Prime Vault Pack with the added 5 Regal Aya bonus if you purchase the x15 Regal Aya pack. 
     

Can you buy multiple Regal Aya packs? 

Yes, like Platinum Packs, you can buy multiple Regal Aya packs! As a currency, you can acquire and hold it in whatever amounts you need for your desired items.  

Why did you include Endo in the Packs instead of Platinum like in Prime Vault? 

Generous amounts of Endo were added to the packs instead of Platinum because we simply cannot justify or reason with having players pay for one premium currency to purchase another. When looking at how this affects pack value, we want to make clear that the decision was made to maintain existing values with how it relates to the Prime items in bundles (and how that relates to their Regal Aya value). Endo and Platinum are both bonuses added to the pack at no additional cost to the player. 

Not only that, but Endo is an incredibly important resource needed in powering up your Prime gear with Mods. It’s addition into the packs was made with the intention of giving you the tools you need to get your Arsenal ready for The New War. 

Will unused Regal Aya be refundable? 

No, unused Regal Aya is not refundable. So if you wish to purchase Vaulted items be sure to use your remaining Regal Aya before the event comes to a close on January 25, 2022. Evergreen rewards will be available afterwards to spend whatever is left over if desired. 

Are the Prime Weapons and Warframe Mastery Rank locked? 

They work the exact same way as current Prime Access and Prime Vault, a player can purchase a pack and all its gear regardless of Mastery Rank.  

Do the Prime Warframes and Weapons come with Inventory Slots, Orokin Catalysts and Orokin Reactors? 

Yes! If you purchase a Prime Warframe or Weapon with Regal Aya, it will come with an Inventory slot and either an Orokin Reactor or Catalyst already installed. 

How will this affect the Trading of Prime Parts? 

In terms of how Prime Parts are traded, nothing changes with Prime Resurgence. You will still be able to trade the Prime Parts that you earn from Vault Relics. 

This Event will create more supply, but it is time limited, and players can continue to set and engage in value systems that they feel are fair. 

Will Prime Noggles be available through Varzia’s shop?

Yes, but first, the history of Prime Noggles… In 2018 we started to deliver Prime Noggles to player inboxes as a surprise, unadvertised thank you for purchasing Prime Access/Prime Vault packs. We have continued to do so at the end of every year. 

That said, we are making Prime Noggles more widely available (and for the first time, players can get multiples) for the first time through Varzia’s shop during Prime Resurgence. The Prime Noggles that will be up for purchase match the Prime Warframes available during Prime Resurgence. 

We will still be continuing to thank our Prime patrons via inbox, with some slight changes. Any of the Prime Noggles that appear in Prime Resurgence will only be available through the event, and any Prime Access packs and non-Prime Resurgence Prime Vault packs that were purchased this year will have the related Prime Noggles sent to them to continue the tradition. 

When can I start earning Aya? 

Aya will be added to the drop tables (The Void or Bounties) on all Platforms on November 16th (start of the event). 

Will Regal Aya be available for purchase through Steam?

You will be able to purchase Regal Aya from the site using Steam Wallet! Regal Aya Packs will not be available on the Steam Storefront to purchase (due to technical limitations). 

What happens to the Vaulted Relics we purchase with Aya after Prime Resurgence? 

They remain in your inventory permanently! You buy it you keep it.

 

A Regal FLOP. I would like to buy regal aya to get the packs but if there's no plat in for my money I ain't buying a thing. Whose dumb idea was to take out the plat out of the prime packs ...and throw in a miserable amount of endo for the prices on regal aya? Like??? Nah, DE. Terrible idea.

[(PSN)Po_Lod7]

Will literally buy the 15 regal pack if it included some plat. The regal Aya currency, I thought, was created so that the accessories maintained the absolute premium status. Meaning you can only ever obtain them if you actually used real money, which is fair. 

 

But the value you pay for in comparison to unvaultings is not the same because of the lack of plat. Even if you get a little less plat for the 15 R.aya pack compared to a prime unvault ie 1000 instead of 1200 Ill still purchase it. 

[PublikDomain]

3 hours ago, SneakyErvin said:

Yes I agree, but it is also free.

Free? You're paying money for it. Just like you pay money for the plat and boosters in Prime Access or any other bundle.

Do you see the words "free" or "bonus" here?

[PublikDomain]

6 hours ago, (XBOX)Zenabel9791 said:

Please DE, this is as great an example as the many others on here, add platinum to the Royal Aya packs directly, or at the very least a decent portion of the amount found in equivalent Prime Unvaulting pack's for the prices listed.

Let's not start trying to bargain for scraps, OK? DE can and should put the same amount of plat in the Raya packs as there is in the existing bundles. There is absolutely zero reason to accept paying the same amount of money for even a single plat less.

[K0bra]

After watching the Brozime video this Prime Resurgence leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Sry that i have to say it but this "we dont want you to buy premium currency with premium currency" phrase is kinda shady and is a bad excuse. Just not cool DE.

Sad this "event" could be nice but this way it isnt .

Only way to rescue this is give the players the same value like before and then this event is a nice thing.

[Perfectly_Framed_Waifu]

On 2021-11-02 at 8:05 PM, [DE]Danielle said:

To quote from the Workshop; “We simply cannot justify or reason with having players pay for one premium currency to purchase another.

Psst DE, lemme let ya in on a little secret...

_{Nothing is stopping you from cutting the Regal Aya out of the picture and selling us Prime stuff plus Platinum.
It's kinda literally what you've been doing for years already, only in bundles instead of individual pieces.
This is a scammy price hike and we all know it.}

[ValeFlavaria]

Ok, so your making a system to allow us to grind a currency to buy relics for prime items, cool, could be worse honestly.

But, your then adding a RMC way to obtain said items faster, but making those items cost double???

I don't know about anyone else, but if your making the farming slightly better, but overall worsening the value of buying it outright with real money, then how is this a net positive?

If anything, DE is directly sabotaging their money making, since most people would just, grind the items out, rather then giving them money for worsening value.

For real, just add plat to the Regal Aya bundles, and people wouldn't be as adverse to them, at least from what I've seen.

[TechBoy1423]

Either add plat to regal aya packs or cut the price in half. Purchases aren't worth it otherwise.

[(PSN)Umbrellie]

Here's the problem I have with this: If the $20 accessories pack is all the items plus 200 plat, and $20 worth of plat alone is 370, then that means the Prime Accessories are worth 170 plat all together, right? So, time for some maths. If "major" accessories (Syandanas etc.) are 2 R-Aya, "minor" ones (Sigils, Extractors,etc.) are 1, and we use the $20 plat solo purchase (370) as a raw platinum equivalent, that means Rhino's accessories for instance are 113 1⁄3 (113 rounded) for the Syandana, and 56 2⁄3 (57 rounded) for the Extractor, meaning each R-Aya has a MINIMUM value of 56 2⁄3 plat each... In order to then match the value of the 370 plat (which remember costs the same as the current 3 R-Aya pack, at $20), you'd have to have 6.53 R-Aya. Obviously we can't have half an R-Aya, so I'd hope that it'd follow mathematical rule and round up to 7, but I'd be willing to take 6 as a "convenience fee" for it if necessary.

So in essence, using the 3 R-Aya pack as a guide, the amount of R-Aya needed to justify the same price tag without the platinum needs to almost double in every instance. Obviously the higher packs like 15 R-Aya aren't as bad, but they're still not an equivalent exchange for the money spent on them due to the lack of Platinum.

Obviously DE gets to decide how they monetize their game... But to me, someone who has easily sunk over a grand or more into this game in total over the years, this de-incentivizes me from buying the R-Aya and instead pushes me more toward the F2P option of just farming them...

[Hypernaut1]

Ultimately, people will decide with their wallets. 

Personally, I'll buy a few cosmetics that I've been waiting for. I'm not too concerned with this supposed "extreme plat value" some of you are going on about. 

If DE really wanted to " scam" people, they could do a lot worse that removing some plat. Also- it's up to them to raise or lower the price of cosmetics as they see fit. The game has to make money, and prime accessories is the least scummy way to get as much money as possible. The frames themselves are farmable.

if removing plat from an accessory bundle is what they need to turn a profit, I don't see the problem with that. No one is forced to buy accessories of all things. The accessories are to support the game, and aren't even that much better than the other cosmetics. 

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[SephirothWS]

20 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said:

If DE really wanted to " scam" people, they could do a lot worse that removing some plat.

Watch, just watch. This is one step down the slippery slope of completely removing plat from the game. Calling it now.

[(XBOX)LadyWinterstorm]

25 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said:

If DE really wanted to " scam" people

They actually did back with those Cat decoration bundles back in February, where they advertised a Rifle Riven Mod, but it was actually a Kitgun Riven Mod... Which is false advertising. They called it an error and swept it under the rug.

[Ianto]

Love the changes to the relics. Great idea.

Adding a secondary RMT currency is a rough move though. Especially the old, "needing to buy more of it than you actually need for a double pack" trick. That's one of the oldest two bit mobile phone game tricks in the book. Honestly though DE were above nickel and diming like that.

I like the idea of the choose your own accessories idea, but since plat made up half the value of the current bundles, there is no way I am opening my wallet for these coins. They seem objectively worse value than we had before. The plat alone was enough to buy a many more prime frames and weapons from other players than you actually got with the pack.

[Perfectly_Framed_Waifu]

18 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said:

if removing plat from an accessory bundle is what they need to turn a profit, I don't see the problem with that.

Neither do I. However.

We as customers should never accept it when companies do it without transparency. It's one thing to come out and say "sorry, but we need to do this to stay afloat", another to obfuscate and claim "we're totally giving you guys a better deal here, trust us", like when a company lowers the price by 5% but secretly removes 15% from the package. What DE is doing here is heavily leaning towards the latter, and that's not a good look at all.