Why no powered armor

[Dairaion]

I was wondering why doesn’t any faction make use of full on powered exoskeletons. The grineer of course use bionics and genetic engineering to get the best out of troops and corpus has artificial bodies that contain brain in a jars, but why haven’t the Tenno attempted to create powered exoskeletons for use by their railjack crews or colonists like the ostrons? Is it possible that technology has simply advanced to the point it’s increase in survivability isn’t worth it or is it seen as a primitive technology similar to how we view full plate or bicycles?

[(XBOX)CaligulaTwily]

Probably because it's primitive and unwieldy. With cybernetics and, Warframe swordsteel skin and whatnot, powered internal skeletons > powered external skeletons. I guess there's Sargus Ruk if that counts, but really iffy whether that's "powered exoskeleton" or just cybernetics, I wanna say cybernetics and limb replacements 

As for why there's no Ostrons in exosuits? Why bother when they have Friendly Neighborhood Tenno nearby. In a universe without Tenno, I could see Ostrons making exosuits out of Zawparts and whatnot lmao

Edited August 30, 2023 by (XBOX)CaligulaTwily

[Corvid]

Corpus Crewmen actually have a powered exoskeleton under their jumpsuits. It's how they're able to do the long jump between platforms on certain tiles.

As for our Railjack Crew, I can imagine the suits they wear act like an artificial musculature.

Edited August 30, 2023 by Corvid

[Pizzarugi]

It's because Tenno closely guard their technology. Never once do we give anyone our weapons, warframes, archwings, railjacks, etc. We're a military group that once belonged to the Orokin, now we're a rogue band of mercenaries hopped up on godmode that commit 1-man mass genocide for the greater good... and also scrap plastics and metals we created.

The whole reason you went (and apparently fail) to kill Alad V is because he made a robot out of warframe parts, and Lotus said that power is sacred. That's all. It's not that the dude is an ambitious maniac that poses a threat to the Origin System, just "he took our stuff, beat his ass".

Edited August 30, 2023 by Pizzarugi

[Corvid]

2 minutes ago, Pizzarugi said:

It's because Tenno closely guard their technology. Never once do we give anyone our weapons, warframes, archwings, railjacks, etc. We're a military group that once belonged to the Orokin, now we're a rogue band of mercenaries that commit 1-man mass genocide for the greater good... and also scrap plastics and metals we created.

And here I thought these pizza-cutter takes on the Tenno's motivations had died out.

3 minutes ago, Pizzarugi said:

The whole reason you went (and apparently fail) to kill Alad V is because he made a robot out of warframe parts, and Lotus said that power is sacred. That's all. It's not that the dude is an ambitious maniac that poses a threat to the Origin System, just "he took our stuff, beat his ass".

Sure, as long as you ignore all of the other reasons she provides:

[Pizzarugi]

4 minutes ago, Corvid said:

Sure, as long as you ignore all of the other reasons she provides:

Just in case you didn't realize: All three dialogues Lotus made are still relevant to the part where Alad made Zanuka using warframe parts and she wants you to beat him up for taking them.

What do you think he's going to use in order to mass produce them?

Why do you think no Tenno in this system will be safe?

Edited August 30, 2023 by Pizzarugi

[Corvid]

1 hour ago, Pizzarugi said:

Why do you think no Tenno in this system will be safe?

Why are you ignoring her saying "There will be no stopping the Corpus if Zanuka is mass-produced."?

The core reason why the Tenno work so hard to keep the factions from gaining Warframe tech is because with it the current conflicts would go from their current stalemate to a curb stomp in favour of the side that gets it, which would not be good for anyone.

[(PSN)Unstar]

4 hours ago, Dairaion said:

why haven’t the Tenno attempted to create powered exoskeletons for use by their railjack crews or colonists like the ostrons?

1. The Tenno are a bunch of child soldiers who never finished their secondary school education.  Creating useful mechs is unlikely to be their forte.
    
2. Training a group to become fighters is a complex and nuanced process.  Importantly, the Ostrons would need to want to devote a portion of their population to being mech-soldiers.  There's no indication that they've asked for such a thing, and frankly, with the Unum and the Quills' ability to see all futures, they have no need of such a fighting force.  Whenever they need some violence done, they can simply pay the Tenno, which results in the job getting done and the Ostrons being able to continue their way of life without embracing a combat lifestyle.
    
3. Warframes possess top-tier combat capability.  If they can do the job, there's no reason to get anyone else involved in combat.  Less-capable soldiers are more likely to be injured or die.  That's the benefit of specialization: some folks get really skilled at harvesting, some people get really good at combat, and they share in the fruit of their collective labor.

[0_The_F00l]

There are the necramechs , and warframes are mobile exoskeletons ina  way.

But it is likely that the tech is now outdated outside of niche requirements hence not as popular. 

Also the old war turned many weapons against the orokin , so there might still be a bit of phobia with using anything resembling hackable weapon platforms.

On top of that the weakest part of a human in an exoskeleton is the human. So the corpus have proxies that simply replace the human part with other things and limit it to just the bare essentials.

 

But honestly , these are just minor hiccups , there is no real reason to not have exoskeletons.

[Skoomaseller]

16 hours ago, Dairaion said:

I was wondering why doesn’t any faction make use of full on powered exoskeletons. The grineer of course use bionics and genetic engineering to get the best out of troops and corpus has artificial bodies that contain brain in a jars, but why haven’t the Tenno attempted to create powered exoskeletons for use by their railjack crews or colonists like the ostrons? Is it possible that technology has simply advanced to the point it’s increase in survivability isn’t worth it or is it seen as a primitive technology similar to how we view full plate or bicycles?

probably because the tenno have no use for them with how they carry out their missions

the warframes themselves are the "power armor" but if you're referring to something like a mech... well, we have necramechs now

the answer is likely the same for grineer/corpus. most of the fighting is ship to ship combat, and on the ground the grineer have overwhelming numbers and rudimentary small arms, the corpus have advanced weaponry and robots that fight for them. 

vay hek is probably the only one who has a powered exoskeleton (terra frame) but it's likely tech like that is reserved for the higher ranking grineer like himself.

[(PSN)jaggerwanderer]

I mean, who are you going to use that exosuit against? Tenno with their space magic? Infested who can just assimilate said exosuit into a new creature? Aside from that Eximus units actual use Power Armor. That's why they have limited ability different from other units. Why augment the organics when enhancing the mechanical yield better results?

[BroDutt]

First we need to define "Power Armor". If it's mean exoskeleton suit. Colonies, Grineer & Corpus had that inside their atmospheric suit, just not mechanical like COD MW/Elysium exoskeleton suit.

If you mean bulky armor like WH40K or Iron Man those thing considered out of date. Since the weapon in this world can do comical elemental damage and agility is how you survive. Even a Necramech can be destroyed.

Maybe you can meet a human faction wearing "power armor" in WF1999, but since they're facing a proto infested, it'll became useless anyway. Hayden Tenno and Nemesis actually wearing a version of Exoskeleton suit in Dark Sector, but the Technocyte Virus is the one that actually gave them better protection and power.

Edited August 31, 2023 by BroDutt

[(PSN)robotwars7]

the important thing to remember is the role in which a mech serves; typically as a ground based force multiplier, not unlike a Main Battle Tank.

Grineer probably could use giant mechs if they wanted, but they already have Thumpers in this role, and with a basically endless army of clones, they can just rely on relentless infantry charges. if things get really dire, they can always bring in Ghouls which are even more expendable; there's simply no beating the Grineer in a war of attrition. out of all the factions though, they seem the most likely to make a mech (I imagine it looking a lot like the Fallen Brigs from Destiny 2.)

meanwhile, the Corpus are the most robotically inclined but their dogma ensures that they focus on profit, which means NOT spending exorbitant amoutns of credits on making awesome mechs and instead creating a cost-effective army of Proxies like MOAs and Jackals. plus one could argue these proxies usually achieve all their objectives, besides killing the Tenno, but again, they can be produced pretty quickly, so the benefits outweigh the downsides (though I would love to see their take on a Necrameck, it'd probably be a lot like a Gundam lol)

Infested don't need power armor because again, strength in numbers and swarm tactics. plus if someone else has mechs they can just assimilate it for themselves anyway.

in conclusion, Mechs, while bada$$ and cool and everything, are not cost effective or a favourable choice for any of the factions. 

[Alguien]

5 hours ago, Skoomaseller said:

vay hek is probably the only one who has a powered exoskeleton (terra frame) but it's likely tech like that is reserved for the higher ranking grineer like himself.

I would argue is more similar to Robocop (both Murphy and Cain) or the 40k dreadnaughts than an actual exoskeleton, The dude is barely a head anymore without it.

[Skoomaseller]

3 hours ago, Alguien said:

I would argue is more similar to Robocop (both Murphy and Cain) or the 40k dreadnaughts than an actual exoskeleton, The dude is barely a head anymore without it.

No that's his "normal" form I'm referring to the huge frame with twin hek cannons after he goes "Curse you Tenno, you... got... ME!! [Vay Hek signature laugh]"

[TARINunit9]

On 2023-08-30 at 7:16 AM, Corvid said:

And here I thought these pizza-cutter takes on the Tenno's motivations had died out.

If it was canon so much as once, you will have holdouts insisting it should still be canon forever