Vitalis_Inamorta Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Something like a bump is needed here, for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sappinmahsentry Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 DE, fix this, now! It significantly hurts weapons with alt-fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAIT0 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 15.13 was an awesome patch but we missed this. we need this in the game DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaniux Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Posted as a "Still no fix for" post in 15.13.6 patch notes thread: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/398048-hotfix-15136/page-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHunterX Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 i dont understand, all of those dont need to be zoomed in, the penta arcs too much for a zoom to matter, the castanas are pretty acurate (the one in the left hand is thrown a littl to the left) and the quantas are mid to close range machenegun/lasers, i dont see why you need to get a closer look Quanta = 50 meters, no zoom Phage = 25 meters, zoom This = Logical? Don't get me wrong, I've used the Quanta for so long that I rarely zoom with any weapon now, and if they gave it a zoom I wouldn't use it, but I'd definitely disable it for the Phage. It's already a keybinding, you're arguing against making it functional. "Nah m8, they should leave broken keybinds in the game, cuz I can't see why you would zoom in with a gun that has a 50 meter reach!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xardis Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) The problem is that those option exist but every weapon in game does not have secondary fire. They all use zoom as secondary fire. Edited February 9, 2015 by Xardis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exanthous Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 the reason is because they have an alt fire, they dont need to be zoomed in because it doesnt help the wepon function at all, and since they have an alt fire why waste the time of adding in something useless? Because thats false and you know it, the secondary fire on any gun I've used eats ammo at a rather unjust rate and you can forget about hitting long range targets with it. It got to a point where secondary fire mechanic guns for me are just rank fodder that are never touched again once i get rank 30 with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoe Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 the reason is because they have an alt fire, they dont need to be zoomed in because it doesnt help the wepon function at all, and since they have an alt fire why waste the time of adding in something useless?yu mad or... dude i know yu dont use aim for thoose weapon i dig it, but WUT if a lot of ppl feel like doing it? not like it was lore breaking or teknikally impossible.... also. am sory but i even zoom at Point Blank... it s badass i love to aim stuff even when trowing glaive i use zoom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undernown Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I've been waiting for this fix since the release of the buzzlock.. its teh only gripe i have with it.. i would love to make it my main gun but not being able to use its wonderfull zoom with regular shots is just painfull. Specially since the 10 ammo alt fire is very wasteful on anything except bosses. Also the 50m on quanta is quite far actualy.. its about the distance from the void defence target and one of the doorways.. if i had zoom i could take those headshots at the doorway far more easily.. but now its such a small bunch of pixels at max range that the slightest twitch misses the headshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genji Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 This needs to happen 20 updates ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Rebecca Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 About this option:There is currently a discussion on the topic which may result in Aim/Secondary Fire being combined, as separating the two actually doesn't allow for any real function on a handful of weapons (as OP suggests).More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaniux Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. Thanks for the heads up! Glad to see that it's on the radar. Edited February 26, 2015 by Zaniux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naftal Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 *crosses fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 snip Quick solution: Bind alt fires to middle/mouse wheel click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God_is_a_Cat_Girl Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 About this option: There is currently a discussion on the topic which may result in Aim/Secondary Fire being combined, as separating the two actually doesn't allow for any real function on a handful of weapons (as OP suggests). More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. Well, a worst case scenario it seems, since it would be cool if I could aim weapons with secondary fire, or use the secondary fire key to change zoom on the snipers (not much of an issue with the mod since it's useless on certain cases). Guess those weapons are dead to development, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonicWolf Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) About this option: -snip- There is currently a discussion on the topic which may result in Aim/Secondary Fire being combined, as separating the two actually doesn't allow for any real function on a handful of weapons (as OP suggests). More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. I would actually like the option to have all 3 buttons (Regular Fire, Alternate Fire, and Aim/Zoom) different buttons, and not merge Alternate Fire and Zoom, for it would be incredibly helpful for weapons like the Penta, Quantas, and other weapons with Alternate Fire in them. Penta especially, since I would like to be able to zoom in to get a good measure of where an enemy is far range, and then shoot the grenades while zoomed in to get a better estimate of what angle to shoot at, so I can get them from a long way away. Maybe having a 'scope' on the Penta like snipers, but more fit for Grenade Launchers, like some other games do. But that is just my opinion you know, and since I am only one person, I don't know if I will be heard. Edited February 26, 2015 by ScarWDBone13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMoms Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 --=shnipp=- So what's this warframe that you have there on your screenshot again, Rebecca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centias Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 About this option: There is currently a discussion on the topic which may result in Aim/Secondary Fire being combined, as separating the two actually doesn't allow for any real function on a handful of weapons (as OP suggests). More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. Combined? No no no, I assure you that's not what anyone has been asking for since the addition of the first weapon with an alternate fire. Players have been asking for alternate fire to be its own keybind and actually work as such. Move alternate fire to middle mouse click or mouse 4, or 5 on the keyboard, or literally anything because we're just going to rebind it if we don't like it anyway. Just make sure it operates separately from zoom and leave zoom on mouse 2. This is very, very, very long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egregiousRac Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) About this option: -snip- There is currently a discussion on the topic which may result in Aim/Secondary Fire being combined, as separating the two actually doesn't allow for any real function on a handful of weapons (as OP suggests). More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. That is exactly the opposite change to what should happen. These weapons are horribly limited by the inability to zoom, and none of them are amazing enough to need that as a balancing factor. Make the weapons actually use both bindings instead of combining them back into one binding and we will be happy. Edited February 26, 2015 by egregiousRac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centias Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 So what's this warframe that you have there on your screenshot again, Rebecca? It's Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeronus Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'd really like to see an aiming function available for weapons like the panthera and the mutalist quanta. I currently have secondary fire bound to a side button on my mouse, and I'd like to be able to actually aim using these weapons. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plznohurtme Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 About this option: There is currently a discussion on the topic which may result in Aim/Secondary Fire being combined, as separating the two actually doesn't allow for any real function on a handful of weapons (as OP suggests). More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. Please no don't merge them. What people are asking for is functional zoom that isn't tied to secondary fire. Right now if you rebind secondary fire you still cannot use zoom properly and right click still triggers secondaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanadium Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) About this option: There is currently a discussion on the topic which may result in Aim/Secondary Fire being combined, as separating the two actually doesn't allow for any real function on a handful of weapons (as OP suggests). More on this topic after dev continues to discuss/investigate, but just a general heads up that this is on the radar and may result in a simplified solution where Aim/Secondary bindings are combined. *pulls out stubble* Please don't do that. That's the opposite of what is being requested. We want 3 functions: Fire, Aim, Alt-Fire. And we want them to work. If this is because of the console players not having enough buttons, than that's their cross to bear (shots fired). Don't Judas us on this one, please. We just want our headshots. I may have grown up in a time without ADS, but I've sure come to love it in all the games that have it. Edited February 26, 2015 by Vanadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClockworkSpectre Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Please no don't merge them. What people are asking for is functional zoom that isn't tied to secondary fire. Right now if you rebind secondary fire you still cannot use zoom properly and right click still triggers secondaries. This^ I don't think anyone is asking for them to be combined at all. I hate that I can't zoom aim/ADS with some weapons, it is seriously annoying. Zoom aim/ADS should be enabled on ALL secondary and primary weapons, regardless of whether they have a secondary fire function. Edited February 26, 2015 by ClockworkSpectre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I'm throwing my 2 cents in with the "keep them separate" crowd. I understand if you guys have to combine them for technical reasons, but it would really be great for players if they could customize the way they wanted to. Edited February 26, 2015 by Archistopheles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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