TDIDiamond Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 People mostly say "hurr durr why play wukong when valkyr is 15x better" In terms of damage, close. In terms of tanking damage, hell to the no. I will go briefly why i concider wukong better in regards of his abilities: His 1 Ability: Iron jab, is a dirt cheap cc, can be compared to something along the lines of mags pull, nothing more nothing less, meh dmg that knocks down enemies, simple yet useful His 2 Ability aka his bread and butter: defy, amazing skill, with rage makes you the best tank in the game, AND you can use all of your weapons while it is active, perfect for any sortie level/kuva flood level content. His 3 Ability: Cloud walker, opens enemies for prompted finishers, similar to valkyrs paralasys, gives you invunerability and untargetability while active and allows for flying. Pretty bad ability for the energy it drains, but it is useful in its ways. His 4 Ability AKA the BFS: Primal Fury, with its augment, Primal Rage, you can achieve red crits very easily, it has nice range and ok damage, killing sortie 3 enemies is a breeze, doesnt drain a lot of energy at 175 efficency and rage. Stance is garbage and needs work on tho, its very clunky and needs some QoL changes. But seriously, every time i mention wukong people say he is a worse valkyr, what are your opinions on the frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 He ugly doe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naftal Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Because 1 and 3 are bad compared to similar abilities from other frames, 2 is boring but OP invulnerability and 4 has bad animations. Especially the swing before you have to do something different to activate combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Probably because he is a selfish frame: does not contribute to the squad with any of this powers in terms of Buffs, CC or Enemy AoE kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Lanieu said: He ugly doe. That's because you can't into FashionFrame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagamilight123 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, TDIDiamond said: People mostly say "hurr durr why play wukong when valkyr is 15x better" In terms of damage, close. In terms of tanking damage, hell to the no. I will go briefly why i concider wukong better in regards of his abilities: His 1 Ability: Iron jab, is a dirt cheap cc, can be compared to something along the lines of mags pull, nothing more nothing less, meh dmg that knocks down enemies, simple yet useful His 2 Ability aka his bread and butter: defy, amazing skill, with rage makes you the best tank in the game, AND you can use all of your weapons while it is active, perfect for any sortie level/kuva flood level content. His 3 Ability: Cloud walker, opens enemies for prompted finishers, similar to valkyrs paralasys, gives you invunerability and untargetability while active and allows for flying. Pretty bad ability for the energy it drains, but it is useful in its ways. His 4 Ability AKA the BFS: Primal Fury, with its augment, Primal Rage, you can achieve red crits very easily, it has nice range and ok damage, killing sortie 3 enemies is a breeze, doesnt drain a lot of energy at 175 efficency and rage. Stance is garbage and needs work on tho, its very clunky and needs some QoL changes. But seriously, every time i mention wukong people say he is a worse valkyr, what are your opinions on the frame? It's worst in almost all aspect compare to valkyr , not even mention that valkyr can buff the team . For common rule , if all people , many with a lot more experience/knowledge/time in the game tell you something and you are totally opose to that ... most likely you are wrong and not the rest of the world . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Magician_NG Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 He's good at surviving...and nothing else. No support, no cc, and melee-focused. At least Valkyr can buff her squadmates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, VisionAndVoice said: That's because you can't into FashionFrame. Well I'm too cheap to spend Plat on Endgame Fashion Frame and I'm not paying Steam funds for workshop stuff. (I also love Atlas but think he's ugly.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artekkor Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 i don't the general idea, but honestly - i just don't like him. I don't like his aesthetics, i don't find his skills interesting and honestly i just sold him after got him to rank 30. He's just not my type and that's it. I couldn't find anything of what he does fun for myself. If i wanted to spam exalted weapon - i would use Excalibur. I like swords more than staffs. Also i don't like monkeys. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 wukong is more solo frame yes u can use it in team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivam0291 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 That Iron Fury Weapon looks like a squeaky toy and also sounds like one. Wukong desperately needs an animation rework tbh :3 but I kinda enjoy Defy though its a bit OP. Defy is the only reason most people still play Wukong i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMongoose Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I love monkey boy in short bursts. He is one of my favorite frames and has saved my team multiple times in sorties when everyone gets downed. I love face tanking any sortie 3 raptor assassinations. Whole team is running around dodging this that and the other but I'm just whacking away at that stupid giant osprey. I will admit he needs a small change to help the team other than be the pickup guy. But at least he is dependable (except when defy gets shutoff by jackals, roller blade weirdos, and nullies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, Artek94 said: i don't the general idea, but honestly - i just don't like him. I don't like his aesthetics, i don't find his skills interesting and honestly i just sold him after got him to rank 30. He's just not my type and that's it. I couldn't find anything of what he does fun for myself. If i wanted to spam exalted weapon - i would use Excalibur. I like swords more than staffs. Also i don't like monkeys. At all. Personally, I view it as a sellout to China...especially since there is a China version of the game. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamianoemi Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I think his ablities could be more interesting like the first and his ultimate. I would like to see this attack animations for the first and fourth abilities. Worth a time to look the other abilities too because in dota2 he is a solid hero in warframe could be more interesting with tweaks and ability changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirukaChan Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I've never thought of him as underrated, but I have definitely thought of him as boring. His kit is just...not fun. His 1 is a melee jab, his 2 just keeps him from dying while doing nothing flashy, and his 4 is simply a melee override to a stick (and it's not as versatile as Excalibur's, nor does it leech health and make you a tank like Valkyr's). His 3 is kind of interesting, but it's entirely too slow for a fast-paced game like Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurea_Hiigara Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I painted Wukong pink and made him my go-to for Archwing content. Best choice ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Temp0- Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Kaotyke said: Probably because he is a selfish frame: does not contribute to the squad with any of this powers in terms of Buffs, CC or Enemy AoE kills. Like anyone actually cares about that when they decide which frame to run. Wukong is good at what he does - surviving. He doesn't need teammates for that, and so don't some other frames like Mesa or Nidus for example that's why you will rarely see them in public, they're too busy runnig solo survivals. Quote That's because you can't into FashionFrame. No fashion frame can change the fact he's pretty ugly. But if you will get used to his looks, he looks okeyish with his normal helmet as it is in black color, no special fashion frame needed. At least he's not as ugly as Nezha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 42 minutes ago, Artek94 said: Also i don't like monkeys. At all. Come at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I dont like him given that i dislike the design and that he is coming from the china version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 22 minutes ago, -Temp0- said: Like anyone actually cares about that when they decide which frame to run. Did you just assume peoples' opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xgomme Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Because people don't know how to use him in a team Because they tried him with a magnetic self damage weapon Because they don't use his augments etc I have a cc and a dps build, both with godmode from defy. 1st augment with a slam build jat kittag (it will kill most mobs, and hard cc HL mobs) And full combo + max range Primal Rage for dps, even if yeah, I needed a lot of time to get used to those weird moves Both with weapons I can't spam with "regular" frames (not BDSM ones ) Penta Secura and explosive Hikou P, with Penta's augment you can pack them for your Jat Kitty, and since Wukong don't give a clem about self damage you can detonate in the center of the pack If you find him boring you should try that Jat Kangaroo build Edited June 16, 2017 by Xgomme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackheartstar_pc Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 3 hours ago, KirukaChan said: I've never thought of him as underrated, but I have definitely thought of him as boring. Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lei-Lei_23 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'm pretty sure Wukong's Cloudwalk with a Gas Zenistar still wrecks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ThermalStone Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Because they tried to turn him into yet another melee frame and it's pretty boring. I use his Defy to spam Kulstar and his fart cloud to make a dramatic exit. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)XxDarkyanxX Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) I don't like a single part of his aesthetics. Can't bring myself to like his general design or any of his helmets. His entire kit to me is : 1-A fist bump 2-A invincibility toggle 3-A boring and long wind tunnel 4-A giant... laser stick with weird animations? ___ 1-If you want a flashy fist bump, Atlas does it better. Maybe not CC wise, but it looks deadly at least. 2-I absolutely despise being invincible at all time, and it's literally the one ability that you can't stop using at all cost. 3-At no given moment would I want to go Invisible, Invincible and enter a slow-motion while not being able to shoot all at the same time in Warframe. No matter the benefits. 4-The staff that resizes makes for a really awkward stance to look at. I'd rather keep my giant sword that can do just about the same amount of damage at this point. Edited June 16, 2017 by (PS4)XxDarkyanxX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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