Latiac Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, DreadWarlock said: Good for them, this is a temporary event. Just like those events that give people weapons and mods. I don't see how can people do those easily, but complain about this one. There's no one putting a gun to your head to force you do these. You don't even have to grind that much. Only people looking for profit actually farm these relics more than once. As for bugs, my GPU is a 6 year old mid end one, with an 12 years old CPU, even so I don't have one bug there. Performance problems were instantly fixed after i turned some filters off. The difference here is people have been waiting for these unvaults, and usually unvaulted relics are added to standard drop tables, i'd much prefer slaughtering waves of corpus than bullet jumping in an empty Plains of Eidolon across the map, then to the other side, then back to the OTHER side for a chance to get the same relic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, LaVitaBella88 said: Great argument for why they're fine as bounties Great argument for people that have the sets. Not so great for any player that has joined the game within the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVitaBella88 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Forere said: Terrible argument for people who are locked out of being able to obtain the relics at all didnt think about the MR lock they should just put them in the lower bounties then make em more accessible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 37 minutes ago, DreadWarlock said: Would you look at that, people get tired of repeating bounties but they don't get tired of Running defense missions which are by far the most repetitive and sleep inducing missions in the game, to have a change of getting vaulted relics, but in truth getting every relic aside from the vauted ones... I almost missed my chance back when Rhino Prime came back because missions simply dropped all relics but any of his. Now I can go to a place that will only drop relic I want, but is in danger of being changed because people prefer going at it the hard, depressing and annoying way. As if repeating Hydron wasn't bad enough But now, instead of having multiple choices where to farm relics, you only have one option. ONE. And its those annoying same bounties we've been running for months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiterra Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 bounties... uh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWarlock Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Latiac said: The difference here is people have been waiting for these unvaults, and usually unvaulted relics are added to standard drop tables, i'd much prefer slaughtering waves of corpus than bullet jumping in an empty Plains of Eidolon across the map, then to the other side, then back to the OTHER side for a chance to get the same relic. If it were added to standard drop tables you'd then be foreced to deal with bullS#&$ RNG, at times spending entire days without dropping a single relic, i struggle to see how can this be any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, LaVitaBella88 said: didnt think about the MR lock they should just put them in the lower bounties then make em more accessible Totally, MR 2 player can totally participate in T5 bounty and in no way be detrimental for the other 3 players in the mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVitaBella88 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, phoenix1992 said: Great argument for people that have the sets. Not so great for any player that has joined the game within the last year. I started 2 mos ago and i think its amazing. I dont want to be stuck in a corridor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Walks into plains, bounty failed. YAY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latiac Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, DreadWarlock said: If it were added to standard drop tables you'd then be foreced to deal with bullS#&$ RNG, at times spending entire days without dropping a single relic, i struggle to see how can this be any better. The thing is you have multiple options, you could Xini if you wanted too, Heiracon for example. Now we JUST have the single bounty, you can't run the missions for as long as you want either to maximise... That and the loading times between Cetus are still HORRENDOUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis_The_Buckethead Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Maybe put the relics in regular missions too, the bounties are less cluttered so people will do then to get spesific relics, but with bounties only its impossable to get some relics outside of waiting or useing relic packs, so please put them in regular missions too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyukoAkihara Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Ok, tried bounty for about an hour since the update... still got no relic from the droo table RNG Also bugs and lags :') //cries in corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVitaBella88 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, phoenix1992 said: Totally, MR 2 player can totally participate in T5 bounty and in no way be detrimental for the other 3 players in the mission. why did you quote me? If they put all the relics in the lower missions what does that have to do with T5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWarlock Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Stoner said: But now, instead of having multiple choices where to farm relics, you only have one option. ONE. And its those annoying same bounties we've been running for months now. Your point being? By doing bounties you have an enormous chane of getting what you want and reduce the overall time you'll be farming relics altogether. How can you not see that doing somehting boring for a smaller period of time is way better than choosing where do do it but taking months to get what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodhiarche Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 il y a une heure, [DE]Megan a dit : [...] Prime Vault Unsealed! Manipulate, incinerate and shatter your enemies with this Prime Vault Unsealed. The Prime Vault is open now on all platforms and brings back Loki Prime, Ember Prime and Frost Prime for a limited time. Returning with them are other high-demand Vaulted Prime Accessories and Weapons along with discounted Platinum in four unique packs: the Loki & Ember Dual Prime Pack, the Loki Deception Prime Pack, the Ember Fire Prime Pack, and the Frost Ice Prime Pack: https://www.warframe.com/prime-vault [...] And again, no separate pack for those who only want Prime Accessories because they already have the warframes & weapons ? Well, thanks but I think I'll pass on that Prime Vault... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, LaVitaBella88 said: I started 2 mos ago and i think its amazing. I dont want to be stuck in a corridor. I started more than 2 years ago and I think it is stupid. I don't want to be stuck in a map that I have explored over and over since October, rep capped, did the 2 events, fished and carried more players than I assumed was possible. But consider the following thigs... You still have to do the corridor to get reactants and to open the relics. And just because you have opinion, does not mean that only yours is valid. There is a way to allow for everyone to have fun, picking the content they want to do. It was not done. 3 minutes ago, LaVitaBella88 said: why did you quote me? If they put all the relics in the lower missions what does that have to do with T5 Because Axi relics are in T5. 2 mos and you still don't know that? 3 minutes ago, DreadWarlock said: Your point being? By doing bounties you have an enormous chane of getting what you want and reduce the overall time you'll be farming relics altogether. How can you not see that doing somehting boring for a smaller period of time is way better than choosing where do do it but taking months to get what you want? And you still have to do the "boring" (for you) thing in order to get reactant and open the relics. Or you forgot that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korvis2 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I'm extremely unhappy with the decision to put the unvaulted relics only on Bounties. Aside from a personal dislike of the plains gameplay, Bounties are still extremely buggy compared to regular missions. I had the 2 times I did a bounty since the update break due to bugs already today. Add in the long load times and poor FPS due to having an older PC and the content that I do enjoy doing is pushed aside to force me to do something I do not enjoy if I want to get the relics. The Plains already feels like it's the "thing that we spent a lot of time on so you should spend a lot of time on and love too". I love the game and love that I can choose to do a wide variety of different things, please give some consideration to those that do not like, or cannot do Plains content. (I do not consider them being available in syndicate pack much of an option given how large the pool is to draw from) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fartloud Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 should have put them in void. would be a bit oldschool, reminding how people got the prime frames originally, tower keys and all that. i guess it could be worse. relics could be in fishes stomachs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVitaBella88 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, phoenix1992 said: There is a way to allow for everyone to have fun, picking the content they want to do. It was not done. 2 minutes ago, phoenix1992 said: yeah but adding it to the normal loot table isnt fun for everyone either because rng is even more of a b*** that way. I agree an everyone wins situation is always best. But there wasnt one so they went with the fastest route which in my opion is a good trade off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenJacket Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Really? Plain's bounties? This is dumb guys. I get why you did it, I do. But fix it please. Make it normal. Do you know how long we are gonna have to farm in order to get these relics? Forever. Please please release a hotfix and change it back to a normal one. This isn't gonna work and its already annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Please remove the Bounty, bounty is the worst thing you've maded, if you want to make players play bounty please improve it, but stop making the bounty mandatory, argh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkoo33 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, --L1C-- said: This is exactly the sort of change that was needed to the vault system , now players will be able to power-farm vaulted stuff that they want without the unnecessary clutter of getting random relics they don't care about :) , thanks DE! Grinding for a chance for more grinding.. this is how i see things. You play a bounty, then you might get a relic, then play the mission to have the relic open...then the reward is nothing related to the vaulted items... I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, LaVitaBella88 said: yeah but adding it to the normal loot table isnt fun for everyone either because rng is even more of a b*** that way. I agree an everyone wins situation is always best. But there wasnt one so they went with the fastest route which in my opion is a good trade off. Strange. You call out RNG out on being "a b***"" yet you fail to account that RNG is still present in the bounties to the same extend as in other missions. https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html Here you go the full extend of drop rates in Warframe, do show me the full math considering how much it time takes you to roll a dice for a bounty and reactants, versus rolling the dice in Interception/Defense/Survival Fissure run that also gives you affinity, resource, creds micro boosters and other prime parts. I am thrilled to hear the final result when you compare 100 t5 bounties vs 100 waves in Axi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeTigreVolant Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I can't farm the prime vault since my pc isn't that great... Its not like I don't want to farm them but I will buy loki wyrm I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCoMerc Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Giantconch said: WOO! get your farming hats! WAIT... You guys are actually going through with the whole "bounties only"???? Thats quite disappointing and I would hope you guys reconsider this. Though I do appreciate the intent behind allowing more targetted farming of specific relics, constantly running bounties for the vaulted items is not fun. Bounties in general become quite boring and repetetive faster than Xini-spam. Perhaps as an alternative release some of the vaulted relics into the Void drop tables too? We really do need more variety other than spamming the same bounties again and again and again. Beyond that, mid-low end pc players simply will have severe troubles getting into the plains to obtain these relics. Well said. There is nothing I want badly enough in this game, to run more Bounties. So, so SICK of the thrown together, barely disguised escort/Defense missions. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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