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2 hours ago, I.Loki.I said:

I know man, but iFlynn said that, as a partner (part of the comunity of partners) he was under some pression to not to say what he really wanted to say and these mass quitting will sound an alarm on DE. Even Steve already gave explanations on Twitter and for sure DE shaked a little bit.

Yet we all know they'll do the same thing they did when Rahetalius exposed their defense of abusive mods again, they'll try to divert the blame and then do little to fix it.

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5 hours ago, kuciol said:

Just go back to Destiny you troll, stop reading what you want to be said. Read whole post again until you understand what i meant and stop embarrassing yourself further. Answers i get are not the answers to questions i asked. You repeating what you want doesnt matter one bit when questions i asked are not about that. 

Still reflecting hard and thinking any answer except the one YOU want is wrong i see. You're even trying to mention Destiny now just to keep desperately clinging.

You didn't get the help i suggested?

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2 hours ago, bibmobello said:

Everyone can one shot the hydrolist stacking with madurai but making a 3X3 is still hard with an inexperienced squad. The difficulty is not one shoting the eidolon, it's to have a coordinate team charging the lures and destroying the shields, destroying the limbs  is the easiest part.

Destroying the shields also count as one shot part. How many can we see people one shot the shields? And solo of course, or duo at maximum. Still one in a million I believe

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On 2019-08-23 at 11:25 AM, dw3t said:

Yes DE is an indie studio

I wouldn't say Warframe is an indie studio anymore.. they were, years ago, but then they sold the company to Leyou 3 yrs ago iirc(fun fact: theyre behind the new LotR MMO) who then gave 30% of Warframe to a mobile app company in a partnership.

These days though, the term indie is pretty muddled, but I'm bored, so whatever.

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4 minutes ago, (PS4)GbHaseo said:

I wouldn't say Warframe is an indie studio anymore.. they were, years ago, but then they sold the company to Leyou 3 yrs ago iirc(fun fact: theyre behind the new LotR MMO) who then gave 30% of Warframe to a mobile app company in a partnership.

These days though, the term indie is pretty muddled, but I'm bored, so whatever.

Indie studio: usually 1-50 people.

AAA studio:usually 200-300 people.

DE:310 people.

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3 hours ago, 844448 said:

And people don't want to have the balance, unfortunately only a few that actually want balance while the rest are okay because they like warframe because you can be a god that wipes out enemies like nothing which is something that isn't available in other games. Besides, how many of us that actually wipe out level 100 enemies with one button push? How many that able to one shot the hydrolist? I don't think it's reaching 5% at this moment?

You say that, yet apparently a lot of people are begging to have more reason to play the closest thing we have to a balanced Warframe, enough that DE are listening and obliging.

You also need to keep in mind that if the that, if trivialising the absolute extremes of the game's 'challenging' content is possible, then logically, as content gets easier it becomes easier to trivialise. Most of the game is ludicrously easy to make irrelevant and automate. Good old bell curves win again.

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54 minutes ago, DeathDweller said:

Indie studio: usually 1-50 people.

AAA studio:usually 200-300 people.

DE:310 people.

AAA studios have like 15 000 people, just check Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda and EA at top end. Bethesda publishing branch has 400 alone. Your arbitrary numbers mean really nothing.

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1 minute ago, kuciol said:

AAA studios have like 15 000 people, just check Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda and EA at top end. Bethesda publishing branch has 400 alone. Your arbitrary numbers mean really nothing.

Those companies don't produce 1 title.Those numbers separate to smaller teams each working on different projects.Get your facts straight.

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1 minute ago, DeathDweller said:

Those companies don't produce 1 title.Those numbers separate to smaller teams each working on different projects.Get your facts straight.

You can believe whatever you want but the facts are DE doesnt get any help or guidance from outside source, they are on their own with warframe. Also you fight a argument that you made in your head. Nobody even once used Indie as justification of anything, you made that up and now you fight it for god knows what reason. 

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3 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

You say that, yet apparently a lot of people are begging to have more reason to play the closest thing we have to a balanced Warframe, enough that DE are listening and obliging.

You also need to keep in mind that if the that, if trivialising the absolute extremes of the game's 'challenging' content is possible, then logically, as content gets easier it becomes easier to trivialise. Most of the game is ludicrously easy to make irrelevant and automate. Good old bell curves win again.

Have more reasons to play is also the closest thing to have more items in reward table

Trivialising the challenging content will happen one day on any game so what's the point? And this sounds like you don't like the direction of power warframe is going as you want, but you don't want to let go of it

Now, if you want to balance it, how do you do it without "trimming the numbers", ability resistance, immunity, weak point, complete rework of all abilities, core system rework, or power creep?

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19 minutes ago, kuciol said:

You can believe whatever you want but the facts are DE doesnt get any help or guidance from outside source, they are on their own with warframe. Also you fight a argument that you made in your head. Nobody even once used Indie as justification of anything, you made that up and now you fight it for god knows what reason. 

kuciol the only one that contradicts himself and getting facts out of their head here is you.Like your feedback argument.If everyone coming in the forums to whine is the minority and DE listens to feedback, then they listen to the minority of those whiners, thus majority not always win.If not, then they don't listen to feedback.That's how flawed your logic is on everything.

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Just now, DeathDweller said:

kuciol the only one that contradicts himself and getting facts out of their head here is you.Like your feedback argument.If everyone coming in the forums to whine is the minority and DE listens to feedback, then they listen to the minotrity of those whiners, thus majority not always win.If not, then they don't listen to feedback.Thta's how flawed your logic is on everything.

Yea yea keep crying. The one dude that tried to answer my questions brought more substance to this topic then your whole day of screeching. 

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1 hour ago, DeathDweller said:

Indie studio: usually 1-50 people.

AAA studio:usually 200-300 people.

DE:310 people.

Indie is a studio without any backing from publisher, not the numbers. Bungie become indie after their separation from Activision

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Just now, kuciol said:

Yea yea keep crying. The one dude that tried to answer my questions brought more substance to this topic then your whole day of screeching. 

@Ephemiel Is wrong.You are beyond help.

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1 minute ago, DeathDweller said:

@Ephemiel Is wrong.You are beyond help.

At least i play the game i like and not sit here crying like masochist but yea, keep being you.

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Just now, DOOMPATRIOT said:

Warframe is becoming a mobile game...

Then why not leave? Unless you have something constructive to contribute, both our time and yours is better served by you leaving.

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Just now, kuciol said:

At least i play the game i like and not sit here crying like masochist but yea, keep being you.

Yeah i see that, 3/4 of your time on WF you claim you were away and now you spend your whole day on the forums like us crying whiners.

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6 minutes ago, 844448 said:

Indie is a studio with any backing from publisher, not the numbers. Bungie become indie after their separation from Activision

WF was bought from Leyou tech some years ago when they were indeed indie.So now they got financial support from outside aka "publisher" thus not independent.

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3 minutes ago, DeathDweller said:

Yeah i see that, 3/4 of your time on WF you claim you were away and now you spend your whole day on the forums like us crying whiners.

I have 930 hours played over 309 days, i would say that pretty good average. Now i do other things and have forums on the other tab simple. You are crying whiners since you cant even answer some basic questions. Talking with all of you was like talking with spoiled toddler. You tell me what you want , i ask you about actual problems with what you want and you just repeat the first part, ALL THE FKN TIME. You have nothing else to say beyond "me want that","game needs it","game is dieing" . When presented with actual problem you just ignore them and resort to insults. Keep believing that you know better, that will take you very far, hopefully far away from this game.

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1 minute ago, kuciol said:

I have 930 hours played over 309 days, i would say that pretty good average. Now i do other things and have forums on the other tab simple. You are crying whiners since you cant even answer some basic questions. Talking with all of you was like talking with spoiled toddler. You tell me what you want , i ask you about actual problems with what you want and you just repeat the first part, ALL THE FKN TIME. You have nothing else to say beyond "me want that","game needs it","game is dieing" . When presented with actual problem you just ignore them and resort to insults. Keep believing that you know better, that will take you very far, hopefully far away from this game.

Still doesn't justify your presence on the forums unless you are a crying whiner like us.

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hace 6 minutos, Corvid dijo:

Then why not leave? Unless you have something constructive to contribute, both our time and yours is better served by you leaving.

So you OK with Warframe becoming a Mobile Game?

Look at the New Disruption Rewards, a 24hrs Consumable that Will only cater to the AFK mentallity and adds nothing new to the game, a banjo simulator?it is starting to sound a lot like a mobile game, isn't it?

If you are Ok with that then you be you, but do you really want Warframe to become that?

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20 minutes ago, DeathDweller said:

WF was bought from Leyou tech some years ago when they were indeed indie.So now they got financial support from outside aka "publisher" thus not independent.

This is the grey area that sort of confusing, I just looked a bit and there are two factors, financial and thought so how to decide that is subjective since 61% of DE are bought (I assume it's the share purchase) but no news about Leyou being able to decide on DE

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On 2019-08-23 at 5:11 PM, Fire2box said:
On 2019-08-23 at 11:25 AM, dw3t said:

Yes DE is an indie studio

They actually aren't. They have a Chinese publisher so people trying to defend DE like " their a small company, their independent." are factually wrong. DE has hundreds of staff, they are owned by a Chinese video game publisher. These aren't just stupid defense from white knights, they are factually wrong to boot. 

Calling something what you think it is makes you a white knight? I never knew, I've been using it wrong. 

 

On 2019-08-23 at 5:12 PM, kuciol said:

Its not publisher, its owner and its food company.

 

Edit : i just googled , 315 employees, ubisoft has 15 000 to give you some perspective.

 

On 2019-08-23 at 5:21 PM, kuciol said:

Indie just means independant, CDProjekt Red is also indie....

Hey, looks like I was "factually right" after all. Got me worried there!

 

On 2019-08-23 at 5:17 PM, Fire2box said:

so then what is the teams of like 3-5 people making games like Heartbound and Preay For The Gods? "Ultra, super epic indie?"

No, just indie.

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Just now, 844448 said:

This is the grey area that sort of confusing, I just looked a bit and there are two factors, financial and thought so how to decide that is subjective since 69% of DE are bought (I assume it's the share purchase) but no news about Leyou being able to decide on DE

This we can't know and it's not canon that non independent studios don't have freedom of action or creative control.That's totally between the studio and the publisher.

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