Poor poor Revenant

[Luciole77]

revenant is one of the best warframes....awesome in defense. But skill 1 need some rework...and more augments.

[PedraForlorn]

19 minutes ago, Pizzarugi said:

Revenant is more of an offensive tank compared to most others who offer CC and/or support. Instead of a damage buff ability or a radial CC, Revenant's got killing power in the form of his 1+3.

Plus if you want to give him utility or support, you could maybe replace his 4 with a subsumed ability once Helminth system comes out.

yeah im eying him already for helmith to replace his ult with warcry... stil makes him quite linear though

[(PSN)CommanderC2121]

Maybe a hot take: Revenant is not a well designed frame. That doesn’t mean he is bad, because of course his 2 is amazing and his 1+3 combo works well, but he is still poorly designed. He has multiple anti-synergies, down right confusing mechanics, and while he does have a few potent combinations, his abilities are all pretty lack luster by themselves (hence why I argue reave is a very weak subsume choice) besides mesmer skin. 
 

He has the second highest base shield count after Hildyrn, and third highest shield max after harrow, has the capacity to generate overshields by killing thrall pillars with his 4 beams, and even has innate life steal with his 3, but he doesnt need any of it because of mesmer skin.
 

His passive facilities the loss of his shields to work (on shield loss he sends out a 100 damage wave in a 7.5m range), and ignoring that the passive as a whole is just bad, it makes no sense for his passive to do what it does when mesmer skin is also part of his kit. it is only there for thematics, but you could give him a better passive that still works thematically. 
 

His 1 is has potential if you had an uncapped amount of thralls possible, or at least a capped amount above a measly 7, but between the low number and the fact they can be killed by allies, the ability is just weak in a group setting. Furthermore, while thralls can enthrall other targets by attacking them, due to enemy AI troubles abound that you cannot control. When thralls die they leave behind that pillar, which mind you gets destroyed if you hit it with your 4 to give a measly 50 overshields, and while the pillar can also enthrall enemies, its not a 100% chance to, so you cant just enthrall an enemy, pop them and use that spot as an enthrall spawner. The range of the pillar damage is also pitifully low (2 meters base). 
 

His 2 is great. No complaints. A good synergy with his 1 in that enemies stunned by his 2 require no energy to be enthralled. 
 

His 3 is another mess. At base it only steals 8% of a targets hp/shields, which is increased by 5x if its a thrall, but that means without thralls the ability damage is nothing to write home about. But, if you enthrall an enemy and reave them while mesmer skin is active, you gain one Mesmer charge per enemy hit, but if you reave an ally they gain a mesmer skin charge. A single charge. These can't stack, and a single mesmer skin charge has next to no by itself. Meanwhile, while you can gain mesmer charges by reaving enthralled enemies, the energy cost to do so never beats just simply recasting mesmer skin. 
 

And then his 4. Its damage isn't all that bad, and it was the first to attempt a “adapting damage type” system, but its energy drain is way to high for what it does, its mechanic of storing damage taken to deal back to enemies is hurt by, yet again, mesmer skin, snd it just overall doesnt beat other damage specific ults after a short time. Oh, also, why are all of his cast animations soooo long? He is the only frame I almost feel forced to put natural talent on!

[(PSN)ErydisTheLucario]

19 hours ago, -BA-NeoNexus5 said:

Rise of Revenant main! 🙂

it shocked me that people barely know about his kits and always called him trash right away.

even not talk about his cheese combo1+3 with 250str+ he still have very good 2 that can tank even enemy that can deal like 10m dmg to u. 

his 2 also make u unable to die as long as his 2 still have stack on(if damage bypass it ability u will leave with 2hp left but not dead as long as his stack still active)... and completely immune status and knock.

his 1 can be a good cc and synergy with another ability.

his kit already nice by his own.... learn to use frame is not hard...don't just listen to another how bad on that said frame and weapon before u full test it by yourself.

 

I dare you to say that to a certain someone...

[nslay]

1 hour ago, (PS4)CommanderC2121 said:

its mechanic of storing damage taken to deal back to enemies is hurt by, yet again, mesmer skin

I used to think the same, but the wiki writes otherwise (and I've seen posters claim the same). Apparently damage to Mesmer Skin gets factored into Danse Macabre's output damage. But, even then, Mesmer Skin still stuns enemies who are no longer attacking you.... if you think that enemy damage is actually high enough to contribute meaningfully to Danse Macabre's output damage (it might be in T4 Void with enemies that do 200% more damage!). It would definitely be an interesting way to build Revenant (mod for Mesmer Skin-less play).

[(XBOX)EPOSSTYLE]

On 2020-08-22 at 6:45 PM, 990k said:

This man has been out for nearly a year now and he still got no new skins, meanwhile some frames that came after him not only have 1, but 2 skins! Whats the beef DE?!

I agree grab the pitch forks...somebody tell clem he owes a favor!

[Wolfdoggie]

On 2020-08-23 at 8:28 AM, (PS4)Yggranya said:

So, all games? (i don't really care, i just find it funny, especially when people try to explain it without just admitting that it is their fetish.)

Nah theres still some saviors, like FFXIV.

[___Operator___]

I like how Gears is so well known for bashing on revenant with no actual argument its become a meme at this point.

[(PSN)Yggranya]

2 hours ago, Wolfdoggie said:

Nah theres still some saviors, like FFXIV.

If what people have discussed on the FFXIV forums is true, then nope.

[(XBOX)TehChubbyDugan]

On 2020-08-22 at 6:50 PM, o0Despair0o said:

If I had to guess I'd say it's due to demand.

I haven't seen a single Rev in months. I'm not surprised if there's literally nobody playing him.

I solo'd Prodman with Revenant.  I've run Steel Path with Revenant.  People will go grab whatever some youtuber puts out as a loadout build, copy/paste their mods, then complain that the game is easy even though they probably couldn't complete the base starchart without looking up other people's builds.  People will trash a frame or weapon just because some talking head also did it, then be shocked when they see someone that knows what they're doing crushing their end of mission numbers with a "trash" loadout.  My alliance leader mains Nyx.  I've been in a 2.5 hour T5 fissure with him and he had top numbers at the end of the mission.

People really need to get off the Revenant hate train.

[o0Despair0o]

9 minutes ago, (XB1)TehChubbyDugan said:

I solo'd Prodman with Revenant.  I've run Steel Path with Revenant.  People will go grab whatever some youtuber puts out as a loadout build, copy/paste their mods, then complain that the game is easy even though they probably couldn't complete the base starchart without looking up other people's builds.  People will trash a frame or weapon just because some talking head also did it, then be shocked when they see someone that knows what they're doing crushing their end of mission numbers with a "trash" loadout.  My alliance leader mains Nyx.  I've been in a 2.5 hour T5 fissure with him and he had top numbers at the end of the mission.

What exactly am I supposed to do with this information? I couldn't care less about what your alliance leader mains, or how long you spent in a fissure.

9 minutes ago, (XB1)TehChubbyDugan said:

People really need to get off the Revenant hate train.

I'm not hating on anything here. I don't know where you got the idea from that people hate on Revenant, but personally I just don't care about him, and also haven't met anyone playing him. This has nothing to do with hate.

[Wolfdoggie]

On 2020-08-24 at 4:17 PM, (PS4)Yggranya said:

If what people have discussed on the FFXIV forums is true, then nope.

Dunno what you're talking about but whatever it is I doubt it's going to be removing the current male character fan service from the game.

The current summer event got the game flooded with half naked Miqote bois currently.

I bet if Revenant looked like them instead of a zombie he'd probably up there with Wisp in popularity. 😏 Which would drastically increase his chance of skills being buffed. Although if they gender swapped him and gave him bewbz though he'd be buffed the next day. >.>

[(PSN)Yggranya]

3 hours ago, Wolfdoggie said:

Dunno what you're talking about but whatever it is I doubt it's going to be removing the current male character fan service from the game.

The current summer event got the game flooded with half naked Miqote bois currently.

I bet if Revenant looked like them instead of a zombie he'd probably up there with Wisp in popularity. 😏 Which would drastically increase his chance of skills being buffed. Although if they gender swapped him and gave him bewbz though he'd be buffed the next day. >.>

Fan service is designed to increase sales. And it's so easy and wildly successful, the only surprising thing is that there isn't even more of it in everything, especially games. Maybe it's because then we would enter the porn industry.

[(PSN)sweatshawp]

On 2020-08-22 at 7:17 PM, Ailia_Grimm said:

This. There's way too many people that call him trash just because they don't understand how to use his kit

Most of those people are also sheeps, hearing others saying he is trash & following the "trend" without even trying him more than once if at all

He’s not trash his concept compared to what he is . Is trash plus he’s a boring frane imo

[Lichformed]

It's also pretty funny when you consider that Revenant is one of the most broken frames in the game. 

He is pretty much an unkilalble swiss-army knife, I think people are just spamming his 4 like potatoes because "hurr durr aoe damage ult"

I don't have him, but my friend does and it's hilarious what he can do with Rev, like eating my Corinth right to the face in Simulacrum and then killing me without lifting a finger lol.