(PSN)Pablogamer585 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I took this weekend off electronics to visit my grandpas' town, but on the way there, a sudden thought struct my head about Caliban. What if Caliban is... Ballas? Allow me to explain my theory; As we know from the "Chimera Prologue", Ballas seems to be suffering some sort of metamorphosis that is turning him into a sentient, starting by the legs and splitting his torso in half, almost to the neck zone, little more and he'll be. Now, taking a look at Caliban when fully shown in this last Devstream I took notice of one of his most "noticeable features" is being split in half too, and I started thinking, "What if Erra has forced Ballas to tell him the process to transform humans into warframes, and he is using him as the test subject, combining him with sentient technology as the ultimate weapon against the Tenno?" And yes it is actually kinda common to see half-split sentients so it is logical Caliban or Ballas will be no exception, but to create a Warframe, a human must be sacrificed, be a Dax, or an Orokin. There's a couple more things that made me relate Caliban to Ballas. First, at the beggining of The Sacrifice summoning three sentients to reduce Umbra, the exact same ones that Caliban can summon with his first ability, although I comprehend someone will point this out and say there were more or it was Natah's orders. Second, the Orokin have this strange defect that makes one of their arms be abnormally longer than the other, and what do you know, Caliban's left arm seems inhumanly bent upwards and then back down (Though this is looking more like a shoulder pieces than an actual fully-bent arm, but perhaps someone sees what I see). However, it is true as remarked by my brother that the arm does not match, as in Ballas it is his right one, and on Caliban, his left. There are a couple things we don't know yet about the New War, such as the giant Kuva opals that were shown on the special relays. All in all, this theory could be really macabre and twisted if it ended up being true, but a lot of changes should happen to Ballas' current state, for him to become Caliban. Let me know what you guys think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 minute ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: What if Caliban is... Ballas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numerikuu Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: I took this weekend off electronics to visit my grandpas' town, but on the way there, a sudden thought struct my head about Caliban. What if Caliban is... Ballas? The irony would be delectable. Even more so if we end up using the Paracesis to take him down in a fight. I'd be surprised if this ends up being the case though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Cram Duahcim Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: What if Caliban is... Ballas? http://fushigi freak — warframestuff: Tennocon 2021 Art Panel Bundle 4 assless-atlas.tumblr.com 100% not Caliban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Unstar Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 53 minutes ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: What if Caliban is... Ballas? I would say that this is unlikely if only because we have already been shown artwork for Ballas's next form on a Devstream. I would link it but I couldn't easily turn up the picture. 54 minutes ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: Second, the Orokin have this strange defect that makes one of their arms be abnormally longer than the other This is super semantic, but I'd be shocked if the longer arms weren't both intentional and desired; given the immense power of the Orokin, and the fact that they get to choose their own bodies from what are essentially body-breeding slave auctions, I imagine that if they wanted something as simple as a shorter arm, it would be well within their reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, (PSN)Unstar said: I imagine that if they wanted something as simple as a shorter arm, it would be well within their reach. Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pablogamer585 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 hace 25 minutos, (PSN)Unstar dijo: This is super semantic, but I'd be shocked if the longer arms weren't both intentional and desired; given the immense power of the Orokin, and the fact that they get to choose their own bodies from what are essentially body-breeding slave auctions, I imagine that if they wanted something as simple as a shorter arm, it would be well within their reach. They can finally scratch their backs with ease. Maybe that is what all these years of evolution has led to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Cram Duahcim Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, (PSN)Unstar said: I would say that this is unlikely if only because we have already been shown artwork for Ballas's next form on a Devstream. I would link it but I couldn't easily turn up the picture. Search Ballas 2021. You'll see all the concept art for him and the new enemies coming. I posted the link vs posting the actual pictures incase some are wanted a spoiler free experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pablogamer585 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 Well you haven't posted any links but I saw what you were referring to, so, my theory for Ballas is discarded even by myself, though it wasn't too bad. Now then as Ballas is NOT the one, I've had a terrible alt-candidate... Tenshin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosoMalvadoNG Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 hace 2 horas, (PSN)Pablogamer585 dijo: Second, the Orokin have this strange defect that makes one of their arms be abnormally longer than the other, and what do you know, Caliban's left arm seems inhumanly bent upwards and then back down (Though this is looking more like a shoulder pieces than an actual fully-bent arm, but perhaps someone sees what I see). However, it is true as remarked by my brother that the arm does not match, as in Ballas it is his right one, and on Caliban, his left. it's a normal sentient arm ligament... Remember that caliban is a sentient that was turned into a warframe and it often happens that people who are turned into warframe keep some of their physical qualities. The question to ask is: what strain of the virus did ballas use? and weren't the sentient almost immune to infestation? I think caliban will be the beginning of ballas betraying the sentients or well maybe a past ballas experiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: What if Caliban is... Ballas? have you by any chance been doing Fungal Polyps with Daughter? because you must be on something to come to that conclusion lol. 1 hour ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: Ballas seems to be suffering some sort of metamorphosis that is turning him into a sentient, starting by the legs and splitting his torso in half, almost to the neck zone, little more and he'll be. that's just a part of Sentient aesthetic, nothing more; split shapes, and *questionably* shaped cavities with red and black are featured on just about everything of Sentient design. 1 hour ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: he Orokin have this strange defect that makes one of their arms be abnormally longer than the other, that's not a defect, it was both an aesthetic choice by the Orokin, and - also quite likely - a practical security benefit; you could make doors with panels that would be just out of reach for a normal human arm, but an Orokin could reach it no problem, and the larger arm seems to posess gretaer strength: Ballas can allegedly wield the Paracesis with one hand, while to us, it's a heavy greatsword so we have to two-hand it. it's only a guess, but I reckon that if Caliban does still exist (and isn't being rebuilt from blueprints like so many frames we've acquired), he's likely just one of Ballas' side projects, I imagine an attempt to combine the best aspects of Sentient tech with Tenno/Orokin tech, perhaps even seeing it as the next evolution for the Tenno, like how Alad claimed Zanuka was (but he was doing that for profit, nothing more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, o0Despair0o said: That's the exact reaction I got when reading that question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 btw the OP, we already have art for him: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Art was released of ballas in his new completed form. So no the next Warframe isn't ballas. I don't think ballas his himself anymore but wally or some void entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Symberzite Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Neat idea, but probably wrong. Ballas being forced into becoming a warframe would be amusing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant99999 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'm so much reminded of the whole 'The Stalker is Ballas' thing we had after The Second Dream when reading this. Our poor long-armed sadistic monologue lover just couldn't be left alone without being transfirmed into a completely separate character, could he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pablogamer585 Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Me watching myself getting roasted into oblivion for sharing my thoughts but perfectly understanding it is my fault for I have only seen 3 Devstreams by myself since I started playing and not being fully informed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)max141064 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 12 hours ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: What if Caliban is... Ballas? From the official Warframe site: "Erra's twisted masterpiece, a true hybrid of Warframe and Sentient. Raised from the wreckage of the Old War to carve and swathe through the new." ISSA NO FOR ME, MAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Cram Duahcim Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, (PSN)Pablogamer585 said: Me watching myself getting roasted into oblivion for sharing my thoughts but perfectly understanding it is my fault for I have only seen 3 Devstreams by myself since I started playing and not being fully informed: Welcome to the forums! 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NoodleHair Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 If you look in the most recent trailer, you can see a transference pod like the ones we have in our Orbiter. I'm thinking Ballas gives the Sentients the secret to Transference and creates a Warframe for them. Caliban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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