xXDragonGodXx Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 As the title says; What is the one single ability you would never subsume over ever? I'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominumi Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Titiania's Razorwing Vauban Vortex Excalibur Exaulted Blade Rhino Roar Mirage Eclipse Xaku's Vast Uptime Ash Blade Storm Banshee Silence Protea Dispensery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDragonGodXx Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, ominumi said: Titiania's Razorwing Vauban Vortex Excalibur Exaulted Blade Rhino Roar Mirage Eclipse Xaku's Vast Uptime Ash Blade Storm Banshee Silence Protea Dispensery but if you were able to only choose one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)RaeOvSunshyn Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Zephyr Turbulence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunderthefirmament Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 26 minutes ago, xXDragonGodXx said: As the title says; What is the one single ability you would never subsume over ever? I'm curious. I have a few for each frame, lol. But if I had to pick one, I'd take the most useful and overstuffed ability in the game: Cloudwalker. I'm not even a Wukong main, but he's in my regular rotation for this power alone. I rarely remember to summon my clone or use Defy, and my 4 is now Perspicacity in perpetuity. But Cloudwalker is fantastic. It's amazing mobility, healing, invulnerability, stealth, and a status cleanse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephylon086918 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 If I had to pick just one, would prob be nekros's desecrate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quxier Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 57 minutes ago, ominumi said: Titiania's Razorwing This is literally what makes Titania so +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDragonGodXx Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 7 minutes ago, quxier said: This is literally what makes Titania so +1 Aight bet, gonna do this next then 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDragonGodXx Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 33 minutes ago, Sephylon086918 said: If I had to pick just one, would prob be nekros's desecrate. You know what.. thats actually fair. Who would want to mess with the loot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numerounius Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) I'm going to approach this differently. What is the least subsumed ability on a frame and why would you subsume over it? This means that the other three have stronger reasons to be subsumed over so it still answers the question, just in the inverse order of assuming there are three other abilities that are less relevant to the question. DE please give us the helminth stats, I know you have them. Since others are likely going through the entire cast for this and I don't want to have to defend it for everybody. Banshee, Chroma, Nidus, Trinity, Baruuk are my selection from another topic. The obvious answer would be Storm but I disagree. Baruuk doesn't do great in go-fast content so that is one reason you'd want to subsume over it if you know you can't pull it out in time. Trinity, Blessing. A helminth 4 actually comes with a huge benefit of increased strength from precision intensify so subsuming it to that slot that is a reason. Precision intensify for Thermal sunder is a reason. This could apply to a huge number of other strong ultimates in the cast as well. Nidus, Larva. Dump range in exchange for high strength for high Link stat. Reason to subsume over that. But then you have Ravenous to worry about but archon intensify works so that is one reason you'd want to keep that. And you can't get rid of virulence since you still need mutation stacks in which Larva has less range. Chroma, a cheat code to this question if you have multiple bad abilities making a singular helminth option more favorable than any one ability. Vex Armor. But if Chroma is slated for a rework that is a response to the question. Banshee, I'm not sure which one this would be. Many modes of playstyle of Sonic boom span, sound quake spam, silence spam or sonar spam so any ability would be subsume-able. So my closest answer to this question would be Vex Armor barring Chroma rework. When the entire frame is so bad that you can nonchalantly subsume over any ability without any noticeable impact then yeah he's bad. Edited August 21 by Numerounius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Unstar Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Pull. Playing Mag without Pull? I simply can't imagine it. It's so fun, so definitive, so effective, so "Get over here!". A wad of boys crumpled at my feet, on-demand, practically free of charge. Yes, I'll be having that, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zThulsaDoomz Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Toxic Lash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palkiry Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Protea Dispensary, may sound dumb but Dispensary is one of best tools I've had for playing high level solo. I wouldn't change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEN-Son_17 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, xXDragonGodXx said: As the title says; What is the one single ability you would never subsume over ever? I'm curious. Frost's Avalanche Runner's Up: Kullervo's 3 Ember's Fireblast Hildryn's Pillage Loki's Disarm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephylon086918 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, xXDragonGodXx said: You know what.. thats actually fair. Who would want to mess with the loot. I mean I subsumed over khora's 4 with inaros's pocket sand so crazy cat lady frame can have a cat with duplex bond and sand cats to go with her exalted cat. Now if only I could slot duplex bond on venari =/ Edited August 21 by Sephylon086918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominumi Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 22 minutes ago, Sephylon086918 said: I mean I subsumed over khora's 4 with inaros's pocket sand so crazy cat lady frame can have a cat with duplex bond and sand cats to go with her exalted cat. Now if only I could slot duplex bond on venari =/ You could of just subsume over 3 and still have Venari PLUS the sandy kitty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephylon086918 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, ominumi said: You could of just subsume over 3 and still have Venari PLUS the sandy kitty. Can't command venari to attack, forcing her to do her snare attack force procing slash and gas, if I do that. Plus venari can't hit foes dangling in the dome very well Edited August 21 by Sephylon086918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)slightconfuzzled Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 None. I'll put Wraithful Advance over Mesa's Peacemakers, I'll put Decoy over Saryn's Spores, no ability is sacred in my eyes, all can be replaced, for the lulz. Plus its why we are given configs and none of its permanent anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SilverWolfPrime- Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Shield of Shadows on Nekros, despite that being a seemingly popular subsume choice from what I notice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus_Rhino Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) I subsume a generic warframe when I obtain the prime one! Edited August 21 by Sporthand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiIIion Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) Nekro's 3 (Desecrate) and Wisp's 1 (Motes). You'd have to be either insane or playing some kind of 4D Chess to willingly subsume over either of these two abilities. Edited August 21 by ZiIIion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Wrathful Advance. It is also the Helminth skill I'd be extremely sad over if it for some reason were to get removed one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 But I have two abilities I wouldn't subsume: Exalted Blade and Radial Blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thBro Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) I interpret the question largely as, "What is the most frame-defining ability?" It's hard to pick one. Any exalted weapon ability is a big pick. I might put my vote on...... Mirage's clones. What other frame can just do a thing but it's x5? It's REALLY cool with things that end up having an increased spread. Try something like Paris Prime with Split Shots. (Really wish Nataruk could use that mod.) Edited August 21 by 4thBro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CUInc Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Dante’s 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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