OniDax Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 the point is the aesthetic, which appeals to the chinese market and is being offered to the international market because DE doesnt want to shortchange us. Of course, players who care nothing for how weapons look wouldnt understand that, but the aesthetic is really important here, just like it is for the Ninkondi, which visually fit with these weapons. We will most likely get the crossbow next, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails-san Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Third? We have Despair, Hikou, Hikou Prime, Kunai, Kunai Mk1, Castanas and Sancti Castanas. I believe he was specifically talking about Kunai and Despair, since those are both knives. Probably ignored the mk-1 since those are just tutorial version with lowered stats and the exact same model. Hikou are throwing stars, not knives. And the castanas are a completely different weapon entirely, they just use the same grip and holster positions, comparing them is like comparing Angstrum and Cestra. Anyway, the model difference between the Spira and the other two is much more significant than between said other two, especially when it comes to size, and the stats are unique among the class as well. Not every weapon needs to revolutionize the way we fight. Edited September 23, 2015 by Tails-san Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidWraith Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Third? We have Despair, Hikou, Hikou Prime, Kunai, Kunai Mk1, Castanas and Sancti Castanas. Despair, Kunai, Kunai MK1, and possibly the Kunai Prime that came out in China that will soon come here, are the only ones considered as "throwing knives" or "throwing daggers". The Castanas, and Sancti Castanas, are more like spike traps or caltrops. The Hikous and Hikou Primes are more considered to be "throwing stars", if anything... So with the current release of the Spira, it's more like the fourth in the category of "throwing knives" or "throwing daggers". Since Kunai Prime hasn't released to us...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'd rather get skins than new weapons that do the same S#&$ all the other ones do in the exact same way. And I rather get new weapons then weaponskins. I want the new hammerskin to be a new weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 They exist to make the Despair obsolete. Dat power creep. Crit-viable but with a slower fire rate That sounds more like "sidegrade" to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The point? The point goes in the bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan0306 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Despair is a joke now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Despair is a joke now... I'm not getting the logic behind these posts. Sure, in the video they were being thrown super fast, but in their stats page they actually have a lower fire rate than Despair. 30% of your base fire rate for a crit build, that sounds like "sidegrade" to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szaeravar Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Crit-viable but with a slower fire rate That sounds more like "sidegrade" to me Barely lower fire rate, barely noticeable reload time change, same base damage overall, absurd boost in crit stats. That's a flat out upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 It's the Soma of throwing weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Technically, with Kunai, Despair, Hikou, and Hikou Prime... Spira is the fifth throwing knife, not the third. The specialty on it is the high crit. What I want to see is a silent, thrown secondary that does something OTHER than piercing damage. How about some serrated disks for slash, or a bag of polyhedrons we can hurl for impact damage? Sure, i mean if we look at thrown melee class : kestrel,glaive,cerata (soon) they all represent all 3 physical damage (impact,slash,puncture) i too, wished that spira is like that,but it turns out another puncture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 It's a decent weapon, crit based, so its a little different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XBlackLotusX Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 in b4 nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac2492 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I don't know about you guys, but if those red ribbons have cloth physics I don't even care what the stats are. Also 25% crit with 2.0x crit multiplier. This will most likely be the only throwing weapon that can compare to the Hikou Prime thanks to that crit. Despair, Kunai, Kunai MK1, and possibly the Kunai Prime that came out in China that will soon come here, are the only ones considered as "throwing knives" or "throwing daggers". The Castanas, and Sancti Castanas, are more like spike traps or caltrops. The Hikous and Hikou Primes are more considered to be "throwing stars", if anything... So with the current release of the Spira, it's more like the fourth in the category of "throwing knives" or "throwing daggers". Since Kunai Prime hasn't released to us...yet. Now that you mention it, caltrops would be amazing. Call them Icicles. Cold-element throwing weapons that can be attached to surfaces. Upon contact, enemies take a guaranteed cold proc. This would give us (finally) another cold-element weapon and caltrops that slow. =D Castanas are pretty disappointing as traps since you have to manually detonate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasaiTsume Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 CRIT BASED SHURKIENLIKE SHURIKENS SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Barely lower fire rate, barely noticeable reload time change, same base damage overall, absurd boost in crit stats. That's a flat out upgrade. -30% is "barely" now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrielColtan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 And I rather get new weapons then weaponskins. I want the new hammerskin to be a new weapon. For real, why just want a visual difference when you can have different stats and something to add to mastery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Some people just love to complain. Ignore it if it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeroGrave Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man, after 2 years of not having Despair from Stalker, I finally have something else to use besides Kunai and Hikou/P... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLERINERT Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Are you seriously complaining about free stuff? Nobody is shoving this content up your arse and forcing you to use it. Don't like it and don't want to use it? Then don't. Making a forum thread doesn't help your point at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriviagene Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 there's no need for a reason. use it or don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyranitar Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 >people complaining about too much contents >mfw Just because it's there doesn't mean you HAVE TO use it. Idk how adding this weapon hurting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Something for you to use. If you don't like it your not required to use it. Ignore it completely or just have it on your hip long enough to get it to 30 and then sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanescent Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Because crit variant, we don't have tbose for throwing category yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 *looks at title* well its at the end of the blade. Jokes aside, more variant is always better right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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