(PSN)RenovaKunumaru Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's a shame that console Tenno are forced to wait weeks and sometimes months behind PC as DE strives to compact as much content as possible for builds that are outdated upon release. I don't blame DE and neither should you however, given the opportunity to bypass the Sony verification process for Warframe would allow the devs to provide updates in a more timely fashion which is what I'm suggesting. The arguments against this idea is that some console players are afraid of minor bugs that may be delivered upon release of a new build but I would care to argue against that as well. Does DE not release patches for their updates almost immediately and consistently? The second argument against this is usually, I like the opportunity to see what PC has first so I can prepare. That that preparation time justify the wait? Was it worth the wait in January when the next update to release was in March? The drought continues as we fail to offer DE our support by pressuring Sony into allowing them freedom to satisfy their base audience consistently without permission. Feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Not up to DE, Op, its up to Sony, go to them if you wish to bring this matter up Sorry, but you just..have..to wait, like everyone else, simple Edited July 25, 2016 by LegionCynex Cuz spelling mistakes, Bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)dursereg Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 You want your console bricked. Thats all ps makes certain it doesnt do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I don't think DE has enough leverage to push Sony to let them skip the verification process. And even if they did, I'm not sure they'd want to, since they're trying to keep PS4 and Xbone on the same update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)vamp6x6x6x Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 No, it may be what you want, but anyone who knows better knows that we don't want that. A update that has a simple bug that makes the game randomly close on PC would more then likely crash the consoles. Luckily, Sony or Microsoft would never do this because crashing consoles and/or unplayable games are bad for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I think you vastly underestimate one very important thing. Most of the big nasty bugs are ironed out of new content before it sets foot on our door step. Think of the builds as a big shaggy rescue dog! Mama Lotus goes and picks out a rescue puppy (New Warframe Build) for us, but when it first get's home the oldest child (PC) has to give it a bath, and treat it for flees. Yeah they get to meet Puppers Von Tenno first, but the poor fella isn't in the best of condition. Now by the time we younger children (Console) get home Puppers is clean and while there may be a few fleas here are there most of them got nuked in the flea bath, and the guy is just ready to play chase and run and BRING ORDER TO THE UNIVERSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)eximago Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Like, waiting longer than we might have to otherwise is frustrating, but it is what it is, and there are good reasons for that extra time that I won't rehash, as others have already covered it. At any rate, we'd never be caught up to PC just because it's a port and the console builds have to be essentially translated from the original, so it still takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrosaurHero Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) It's not going to happen any time soon. It's a way for Sony and Microsoft to make sure that content isn't going to have things that don't sabotage the console itself. Sorry, but consoles trade fast upload times for quality checks. And it's not going to change for a long time (and neither should it). Edited July 25, 2016 by HadrosaurHero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaKitsune56 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) 44 minutes ago, (PS4)geomancer1980 said: I think you vastly underestimate one very important thing. Most of the big nasty bugs are ironed out of new content before it sets foot on our door step. Think of the builds as a big shaggy rescue dog! Mama Lotus goes and picks out a rescue puppy (New Warframe Build) for us, but when it first get's home the oldest child (PC) has to give it a bath, and treat it for flees. Yeah they get to meet Puppers Von Tenno first, but the poor fella isn't in the best of condition. Now by the time we younger children (Console) get home Puppers is clean and while there may be a few fleas here are there most of them got nuked in the flea bath, and the guy is just ready to play chase and run and BRING ORDER TO THE UNIVERSE. Nuked? Try the entire region of flea occupation is carpet bombed into the bedrock, flash incinerated by a hundred million Ignis-toting Ember Primes, flash-frozen by another hundred million Glaxion-toting Frost Primes, then given a twice-over with unbelievably strong, and likely illegal, pesticides delivered six months ahead of deployment by the tanker load. Any surviving fleas are hunted down and executed by Kulstar-toting Ash Prime squads with Kubrow escorts. Edited July 25, 2016 by NinjaKitsune56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kamranos Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Sony's certification process is to protect the system from any game breaking and potentially system breaking bugs. Also, the game is operating on Sony's network which means anything that is added to it is at the mercy of Sony. I don't mind the wait. It means know what content changes are coming so we can better prepare and we know we are getting an update that is less bug infested. Think of it like this, PC is beta testing updates for console. This thread seems to be beating the dead horse now and should (and probably will) be locked soon. Edited July 25, 2016 by (PS4)Kamranos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, (PS4)Kamranos said: Sony's certification process is to protect the system from any game breaking and potentially system breaking bugs. Also, the game is operating on Sony's network which means anything that is added to it is at the mercy of Sony. I don't mind the wait. It means know what content changes are coming so we can better prepare and we know we are getting an update that is less bug infested. Think of it like this, PC is beta testing updates for console. This thread seems to be beating the dead horse now and should (and probably will) be locked soon. Kamranos is right, we get the updates first, sure that seems justified and I wish there was another way, However look on the bright side, Us PC's are pertty much your Bug testers for you, we Iorn out Bugs with DE, so you Tenno-Fokes at Xbone and PS4 grab a fresh and non-bugged experience, Also some PC tenno wish to be in your shoes, Delayed updates, but with more Fixs and such and so. Also, you fokes get much bigger Content all in one get-go, once so much is on PC, so you don't have to wait for Hotfix-1-2-3-4 etc. P.S Also an;'t this a Feedback thing? Edited July 25, 2016 by LegionCynex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abufhad Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Blame Sony and Microsoft, PC Master Race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Abufhad said: Blame Sony and Microsoft, PC Master Race. lol, when I first read that, I tought it said "Blame Sony and minecraft.." XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)wonderwoman814 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) I don't see these happening. we could be near to pc but never at the same pace. what would work would be if they made pc update than patch what ever is broken than have THE WHOLE TEAM on the ps4 update but that would mean pc players would get delayed a little bit but that would upset pc player base which DE doesn't like to upset lol. in other words eh not gonna happen but at least they are some what trying. Do what i do when ever DE says soon always assume 3 months and when they surprise you it wont feel as long lol. Edited July 25, 2016 by (PS4)wonderwoman814 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)obsidiancurse Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Firstly, cert only takes a week or there abouts. The reason we are months behind has nothing to do with cert but the fact that pc is the lead platform and is developed for first. secondly, we are not just talking annoying bugs and crashes, we are talking the possibility of your console becoming an expensive plastic brick. Nothing is bypassing cert and rightly so, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, NinjaKitsune56 said: Nuked? Try the entire region of flea occupation is carpet bombed into the bedrock, flash incinerated by a hundred million Ignis-toting Ember Primes, flash-frozen by another hundred million Glaxion-toting Frost Primes, then given a twice-over with unbelievably strong, and likely illegal, pesticides delivered six months ahead of deployment by the tanker load. Any surviving fleas are hunted down and executed by Kulstar-toting Ash Prime squads with Kubrow escorts. Seems to be the case this time lol. I think they announced our cut off for our next build is this week so we will get the clean SotR. We do appreciate the good job PC does on bug reporting. I follow the threads and it's impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Drew Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 There are so many Community Rules violations in this thread, if this was a cert process, it'd fail. Certifications have been getting much quicker, but we still need to make sure our builds are as polished and stables as possible. Please, be respectful when discussing these kinds of issues. We obviously want to get new content onto consoles quickly as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodofWiFi Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Op, why are you posting this here on warframe? sony have official feedback forums too you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaKitsune56 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, (PS4)geomancer1980 said: Seems to be the case this time lol. I think they announced our cut off for our next build is this week so we will get the clean SotR. We do appreciate the good job PC does on bug reporting. I follow the threads and it's impressive. What can I say? After being among the "console peasants" for a time myself, and running into ridiculously over-powered bugs in some games, I traded up to PC and stayed there... There are, of course, games that are console-only, but I dislike finding bugs, and knowing the developers can't do much of anything about it without releasing an entirely new version of the game disc in question. That said, I appreciate the thoroughness DE applies to bug handling and removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TwilightGrim Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 i'm just putting this out there, but don't put your fallout 4 console mod stresses on warframe(who has an actual group doing work on versions of the games) m.k. just play other games that come out while waiting for new builds, or build some weapons for mr or other i know that the twin basolk and dark split sword are getting buffs so i built them :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dragulish Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Certification is required period, they are not something to just bypass, be patient and entrust in both the devs and Sony/Microsoft. Theye want you to play the new content just as quickly as you want it, but you want it ready and prepared in order to run smoothly and fit within the consoles storage requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 13 hours ago, (PS4)RenovaKunumaru said: It's a shame that console Tenno are forced to wait weeks and sometimes months behind PC as DE strives to compact as much content as possible. The drought continues as we fail to offer DE our support by pressuring Sony into allowing them freedom to satisfy their base audience consistently without permission. Feedback? Son..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Bortis Badtouch Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 10 hours ago, LorianTheElderPrince said: Op, why are you posting this here on warframe? sony have official feedback forums too you know i can only imagine the cancer on there, no OP do not dare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)H3x3wahn Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 You want broken updates? Cause that's how you get broken updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrVonTuckIII Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Be glad that consoles don't suffer the bugs we PC players do. Appreciate that verification process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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