bubbabenali Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 On 12.2.2017 at 10:56 PM, kaioshade said: Congratulations DE, Over 130 runs and the Nidus chassis will not drop. I have plenty of Stretch and Metal Auger. Endo is always nice as well. I have purchased one frame, Ivara because i thought she was cool and i wanted to support you guys. But everything else, even Vauban Prime didnt deter me and make me break out the wallet. Not this. ONE stage, ONE rotation with a diluted table, on a VERY BAD mission type. You broke me. I'm not even going to be all dramatic and say how i'm quitting, because i know im just one player, and my departure means squat in the grand scheme of things. I know plenty of people are going to come in here and say how they got Nidus in 3 runs effortlessly. Thats awesome. Luck was on their side. It should not be this much work and frustration to enjoy your game. I know you have to make money, you have a model to sustain. But essentially breaking your playerbase down to complete and utter defeat is not the way to do it. All the time you could have invested in Prime set and Maiming Strike farming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, bubbabenali said: All the time you could have invested in Prime set and Maiming Strike farming... This is a classic example that reinforces my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiTheBeast Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Breaking down and buying Nidus only encourages them to make things as grindy and unreasonable as this in the future *COUGH hema COUGH* Stand strong, and keep farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--BountyHunter-- Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Ok don't hate me, but I got his parts in three runs one after the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/12/2017 at 4:56 PM, kaioshade said: Congratulations DE, Over 130 runs and the Nidus chassis will not drop. After I saw how to farm it, I bought it immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaodenden Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Maybe it's balancing for the rest of use who got all of his parts in 3, 4 runs. RNG really isn't with you. Maybe take a few days off from grinding that mission? I notice sometimes my RNG, at least when I'm opening relics, would get into this pattern of receiving nothing but the same reward. If I've gotten the same reward for 5-6 missions, I would quit doing that mission for the rest of the day/week. Good luck. Hope you get that chassis soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death_Master_ Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/13/2017 at 0:56 AM, kaioshade said: Congratulations DE, Over 130 runs and the Nidus chassis will not drop. I have plenty of Stretch and Metal Auger. Endo is always nice as well. I have purchased one frame, Ivara because i thought she was cool and i wanted to support you guys. But everything else, even Vauban Prime didnt deter me and make me break out the wallet. Not this. ONE stage, ONE rotation with a diluted table, on a VERY BAD mission type. You broke me. I'm not even going to be all dramatic and say how i'm quitting, because i know im just one player, and my departure means squat in the grand scheme of things. I know plenty of people are going to come in here and say how they got Nidus in 3 runs effortlessly. Thats awesome. Luck was on their side. It should not be this much work and frustration to enjoy your game. I know you have to make money, you have a model to sustain. But essentially breaking your playerbase down to complete and utter defeat is not the way to do it. Even before "fixing" that mode was horribly hard(to me it is much harder than sorties). At that time only host suffered from being outside of the bubble. Yeah, i'm lucky i got it at that time(2 or 3 days of constant grind on that mission with just 4-6h of sleep). I understand how hard it is and how horrible can be RNG. I also proposed long ago to make RNG more merciful to players using memory effect but that algorithm is really hard so it was not implemented. Also after nerf not sure Nidus is even worth farming(unless you really need mastery rank). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madotsuki Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 No no NO, don't make a thread like this! Don't buy Nidus just because you couldn't farm it! It's telling DE this is how to make all future frames and content, by putting it behind a massive grind wall that makes players give up and fork out cash! The answer is to just NOT GET IT! NEVER reward bad development decisions with money, ever. Nothing good will come of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabMan95 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 5:23 PM, Chipputer said: Oh but it does hurt. You increase it a little bit for this case, then another case happens and you increase it a little bit. Then another. Then another. Soon there's no such thing as random rewards and there's absolutely no player retention as the people who cried about RNG realize that it was the very thing keeping them playing. To be fair, besides ivara, every non-primed warframe has a guaranteed part drop somewhere: Chroma in junctions, vauban in alerts, a plethora in bosses and even more in their own missions. Making it a guaranteed drop in 3rd rotation would not be that bad: it's not tradeable, it's worth minimal credits, and it's worthless if you already have nidus unless you want to make more than just one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danjal777 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Ivara, Atlas, Mesa, and Nidus are the most irritating things to get in this game naturally. I remember Ivara I had pretty good luck on, but Mesa...Took forever! The good news is that you are probably one of the greatest experts at that game mode now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenariousNex Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I remember Running 60 T3C missions to get a single Dual Dakras Prime Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, SenariousNex said: I remember Running 60 T3C missions to get a single Dual Dakras Prime Blade. Kama? I remember that, that was pretty brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenariousNex Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Skaleek said: Kama? I remember that, that was pretty brutal. Right, Kama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaioshade Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Well, i finally got it to drop. Ironically something bugged out for me. On the reward screen, it showed i got yet another system, then upon extraction, i had two chassis in my reward screen. I will upload a video showing this. Warning, there will be some severe profanity when i saw the systems on the reward screen though. total runs: 147 Edited February 15, 2017 by kaioshade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)xxFleetstdemonxx Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well done dude. Glad that particular grind is over for you. I, however, have it to look forward too... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danjal777 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 19 hours ago, kaioshade said: Well, i finally got it to drop. Ironically something bugged out for me. On the reward screen, it showed i got yet another system, then upon extraction, i had two chassis in my reward screen. I will upload a video showing this. Warning, there will be some severe profanity when i saw the systems on the reward screen though. total runs: 147 That'll do...That'll do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion-Code Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) I don't know why people are upvoting you like what you did is a good thing, you essentially did exactly what DE wanted and posted about it. You're part of the problem. Not saying that what DE is doing with Hema and Nidus are right, just pointing that out. Edited February 16, 2017 by Vermillion-Code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethCypher Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Nidus part farming isn't anything new really. Rotation C specified farming has been a thing almost forever. On a side note I got Nidus from 3 runs, so yeah...insert that sweet sweet RNG gif here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danjal777 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Vermillion-Code said: I don't know why people are upvoting you like what you did is a good thing, you essentially did exactly what DE wanted and posted about it. You're part of the problem. Not saying that what DE is doing with Hema and Nidus are right, just pointing that out. It's because he stuck it out when most of us would move on. A celebration of tenacity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Vermillion-Code said: I don't know why people are upvoting you like what you did is a good thing, you essentially did exactly what DE wanted and posted about it. You're part of the problem. Not saying that what DE is doing with Hema and Nidus are right, just pointing that out. I upvoted them because they stuck it out a hell of a lot longer than I did. And saying they're part of the problem isn't accurate in the least. They made over 100 runs to avoid paying for content. Of you really want to blame someone for the things "wrong" here, go talk to the people that purchased the bundle as soon as it hit the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentiGlondi Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Noamuth said: Of you really want to blame someone for the things "wrong" here, go talk to the people that purchased the bundle as soon as it hit the market. I wouldn't say so. People who bought Nidus right away were willing to spend their money regardless of grind. OP didn't want to spent any money on Nidus, but gave up due to grind, which gives DE the idea that they can force anyone to spend platinum by making grinding worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ozymandias-13- Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I do agree with people saying it's just RNG, and that's how it is to a degree. One of my friends got it all in about 5 runs. It took me closer to 15 runs to get it, another friend of mine took about 25 runs. I also agree that this agonizing method of farming (RNG) is overall terrible though. Not that there is good alternate options other than a token system really, but the reward pools shouldn't be SO diluted. RNG is RNG, but if there's so many items in the reward table that there's a 1% chance of obtaining any particular one then there's a problem. That's an exaggerated example of the reward pool for the Nidus parts, but you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaioshade Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, VentiGlondi said: I wouldn't say so. People who bought Nidus right away were willing to spend their money regardless of grind. OP didn't want to spent any money on Nidus, but gave up due to grind, which gives DE the idea that they can force anyone to spend platinum by making grinding worse. My OP was definitely written in frustration, but i didnt buy nidus. I actually finally got the chassis to drop after a weird bug. heres the video of my last part. *warning, LOTS OF PROFANITY* Edited February 17, 2017 by kaioshade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 gratz OP :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luhcs Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 YOU PEASANTS THINK YOU KNOW THE PAIN OF RNG, ThreeHundred And Seventy-Four Excavators for limbos chasis, THREE-HUNDRED AND SEVENT- FOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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