Spartan336 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Right well this has all run it's course I'm going to start meming now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayden_Tenno Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mintaro said: I didn't think this was possible for people to make a complaint about. Boy have I been wrong. this was a complaint even before excal umbras' release, this complaint started 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, tripletriple said: I feel a bit cheated. Just put yourself in our shoes. You are promised something special and exclusive for supporting a game that might never get anywhere. Then they release something that is exactly the same but with an added capability to it. I feel cheated and played :/. Anyone else? >Exactly the same. No, it isn't. You were promised Excalibur prime, not exclusive rights to every variant of Excalibur ever. Not to mention, you had the only other variant of Excalibur for over 5 years, most games are lucky if the servers haven't been shut down by then. This is silly. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lunatic_ Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jetstrike1111 said: Now this may be because I'm not a founder, but in the 2 years I've spent playing this game, I have never seen a single founder mocked or shamed for using Prime. Most I usually see is either nothing or "He's a founder :0". That's it. Umbra is better than Prime when fighting sentients. Cool, name a place besides Lua where you have regular amounts of sentient spawns that gain immunity. And name a single situation where a 2-second long cast animation is better than a 1-second long cast animation for the exact same function. Other than those small differences, there is no difference between Prime and Umbra, except one was used to support a financially dependent company make a successful game, and the other is the result of said company making a successful game. Besides, Umbra had been confirmed for the game for quite a few years, and was officially confirmed last year. Why was this issue only brought up now? Is it because the founders no longer have a frame that's stronger than the a different variation of the same exact frame? I do not see any reason to be "humiliated" to use Prime. That's definitely over-exaggerating, and if you are humiliated over a virtual item in a digital game, that is a bigger issue if you ask me. As a founder, it happens a lot. I've had people throw missions, intentionally AFK and a bunch of other stuff if I dared to use Excalibur Prime. Releasing Umbra has made things even worse, as a lot of the people who were crying about not having Excal Prime for so long have come out of the woodwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmLikeAB0mb Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Spartan336 said: Right well this has all run it's course I'm going to start meming now. the best meme now is the excal prime is mr fodder now 😄 Rip excal prime in 2018 Sacrifice quest who gives your life for the miracle. excal umbra 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNomad Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Literally this thread rn. Tbh I feel kind of bad that we ALL get this cool thing we can share together and rather than talking about theory builds or what the future could hold because of this sentient damage meta shift we get this VV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan336 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, CalmLikeAB0mb said: the best meme now is the excal prime is mr fodder now 😄 Rip excal prime in 2018 Sacrifice quest who gives your life for the miracle. excal umbra 😄 Yeah, except it was fodder from the beginning. It's true value is that it's owner donated to the game to get it on it's feet. A value that HAS NOT BEEN INFRINGED ON!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, tripletriple said: Sigh, I thought people would be more understanding. I'm not sure what happened to the warframe community. Used to be filled with nice people. It's not bad for me to say I was given something that was supposed to be one of a kind and then I got upset because they copy pasted it with added functionality. Is that truly hard for people to level with? Except, you're completely wrong, lore-wise, story wise, visually, gameplay wise, they are not the same. You still have what you were promised and nobody else can get it. You being salty that other people get Umbra, is incredibly selfish. You don't want other people to have something nice because you don't want to feel less "special". You don't get to be that selfish and then complain about the community not being nice enough to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayden_Tenno Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, The_Lunatic_ said: As a founder, it happens a lot. I've had people throw missions, intentionally AFK and a bunch of other stuff if I dared to use Excalibur Prime. Releasing Umbra has made things even worse, as a lot of the people who were crying about not having Excal Prime for so long have come out of the woodwork. hell i've been playing for quite a while, already seen quite a lot of exPrimes, especially since the game release and never, ever saw that kind of behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lunatic_ Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rayden_Tenno said: hell i've been playing for quite a while, already seen quite a lot of exPrimes, especially since the game release and never, ever saw that kind of behaviour. Gonna encounter it more if you're using him yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaigner Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Excal variant with a different look, slower blind, and a gimmick passive liability. It's a side grade that is outperformed by Excal Prime in multiple ways. If you take issue with new content as a founder you may need to reevaluate your emotional stability or lack thereof. Edited June 19, 2018 by Campaigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 58 minutes ago, DeMonkey said: The armours were buffed later, each was increased to over 200 from it's original... 65? Excal Primes was simply increased by an additional 25. There were reports that Excalibur Prime had a slightly faster shield regen speed, but it was never proven nor confirmed by DE. Read above, he never originally had a benefit beyond Void ball energy. Source: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/476490-update-1690/ Well in that case what is his point? As a non-founder I still do not have excalibur prime or the associated mastery and he does. So what has he actually lost? Other than the ability to look down his nose at me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquinoxPrime Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 What's going on he-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmLikeAB0mb Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 A real founder will never complain about POWER... get out off here fake founders who just payed for power nothing more. what a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNomad Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Spartan336 said: Right well this has all run it's course I'm going to start meming now. I second this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Robot Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jetstrike1111 said: Now this may be because I'm not a founder, but in the 2 years I've spent playing this game, I have never seen a single founder mocked or shamed for using Prime. Most I usually see is either nothing or "He's a founder :0". That's it. Umbra is better than Prime when fighting sentients. Cool, name a place besides Lua where you have regular amounts of sentient spawns that gain immunity. And name a single situation where a 2-second long cast animation is better than a 1-second long cast animation for the exact same function. Other than those small differences, there is no difference between Prime and Umbra, except one was used to support a financially dependent company make a successful game, and the other is the result of said company making a successful game. Besides, Umbra had been confirmed for the game for quite a few years, and was officially confirmed last year. Why was this issue only brought up now? Is it because the founders no longer have a frame that's stronger than the a different variation of the same exact frame? I do not see any reason to be "humiliated" to use Prime. That's definitely over-exaggerating, and if you are humiliated over a virtual item in a digital game, that is a bigger issue if you ask me. In the 2 years you played, Umbra did not exist. You still have no clue. Umbra is not superior because of his howl. He is superior because Prime cannot fit all 3 umbral mods in a single build and Umbra can. Even in blind builds. Also, to quote another guy I'm in a conversation with: "If you liked its minimalist visual upgrade over regular Excal. You should still like it now. If you don't then you probably only liked it as a way to make people jealous or look to you in awe. In which case, lol." So people might think that founders are still using the Prime as a means to "make people jealous or look at them in awe" which, for me is humiliating. And FYI I'm also not a founder. Edited June 19, 2018 by Blue_Robot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Legacy---- Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, CalmLikeAB0mb said: A real founder will never complain about POWER... get out off here fake founders who just payed for power nothing more. what a shame. expected to see "get out off here fake founders who just payed for a founder account in the black market. what a shame." I'm leaving disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodwill Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 As a Founder and someone wearing the same brand of shoes, I am not disappointed. But I'm probably not because I bought the pack to support DE and they happened to throw in a few pixels as thank you (plus I got to see the game grow and continue to do so). Plus I find Umbra as a nice alternative but far from a replacement of especially Excalibur Prime for reasons others have stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmamiSalami Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, The_Lunatic_ said: As a founder, it happens a lot. I've had people throw missions, intentionally AFK and a bunch of other stuff if I dared to use Excalibur Prime. Releasing Umbra has made things even worse, as a lot of the people who were crying about not having Excal Prime for so long have come out of the woodwork. Interesting that I've never experienced people throwing, afking, and a bunch of other stuff just because I'm running with Excal Prime. If anything they're doing it regardless of whether I'm using Excal Prime or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RetroNomad said: I second this. ~snip~ I would pay good money for this. New Alexa personalities when, Amazon? Edited June 19, 2018 by DeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmLikeAB0mb Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, ----Legacy---- said: expected to see "get out off here fake founders who just payed for a founder account in the black market. what a shame." I'm leaving disappointed i can edit it ahahaah 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan336 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RetroNomad said: I second this. Me: "Alexa. Add Forma to the shopping list." Hek: "Who are you calling... Aleeexa!?" Me: Edited June 19, 2018 by Spartan336 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, RetroNomad said: I second this. OMG I was crylaughting, where has this been all my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa97 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I thought I was done with this after that one thread complaining about how their vandals are no longer closed beta user exclusive or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNomad Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, The_Lunatic_ said: Gonna encounter it more if you're using him yourself. Well if it means anything to you; The only Tenno I treat with disrespect are those who are disrespectful to begin with. Regardless of who they are. Friendly reminder: There's a reason we're known for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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