Discussion and Feedback on the Helminth Chrysalis - The most shocking feature ever revealed?

[schilds]

Hall of Mirrors is probably the safe choice for a transferrable ability. While it's powercreep, it's an otherwise straightforward buff that likely won't break anything. Sleight of hand with its augment, on the other hand, might be more niche, but has potentially broken synergies with other frames' aoe abilities. At least, that would appear to be the case going from SO/ESO.

[kwlingo]

Just now, (PS4)ITS_TH3GOD said:

i do wonder though, does ash still get the damage boost when invisible? i've tested it but somehow it doesnt seem to work

Yes should still be working unless DE changed it from last update.

[kevoisvevo]

4 hours ago, Sweg178 said:

Time gated activities are not tedius.. its a good way to prevent players from being burnt out

i think you have it the opposite way around. it's a good way to burn out average players.

[DarthRednax]

1 minute ago, schilds said:

Hall of Mirrors is probably the safe choice for a transferrable ability. While it's powercreep, it's an otherwise straightforward buff that likely won't break anything. Sleight of hand with its augment, on the other hand, might be more niche, but has potentially broken synergies with other frames' aoe abilities. At least, that would appear to be the case going from SO/ESO.

Saryn with her 2 replaced by augmented SoH in ESO would be a sight to behold

[kwlingo]

1 minute ago, schilds said:

Hall of Mirrors is probably the safe choice for a transferrable ability. While it's powercreep, it's an otherwise straightforward buff that likely won't break anything. Sleight of hand with its augment, on the other hand, might be more niche, but has potentially broken synergies with other frames' aoe abilities. At least, that would appear to be the case going from SO/ESO.

Sleight of Hands with Saryn. lol Will break the game

[ShogunGunshow]

1 minute ago, schilds said:

Hall of Mirrors is probably the safe choice for a transferrable ability. While it's powercreep, it's an otherwise straightforward buff that likely won't break anything. Sleight of hand with its augment, on the other hand, might be more niche, but has potentially broken synergies with other frames' aoe abilities. At least, that would appear to be the case going from SO/ESO.

Hall of Mirrors is pretty much the definition of signature ability for Mirage so I'm going to say no, it won't be that.

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

1 minute ago, kwlingo said:

Yes should still be working unless DE changed it from last update.

hmm..gonna have to test that out again, maybe it was glitched for me.

[kwlingo]

1 minute ago, DarthRednax said:

Saryn with her 2 replaced by augmented SoH in ESO would be a sight to behold

Yes we all know everyone will be replacing Saryn's 2nd ability for something more useful. lol

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

1 minute ago, kwlingo said:

Sleight of Hands with Saryn. lol Will break the game

lol they wont allow that.

[schilds]

Auigmented SoH could potentially work well with any aoe/clustering ability and/or mass armour stripping ability (Hildryn, Mag, etc).

[DarthRednax]

Just now, (PS4)ITS_TH3GOD said:

lol they wont allow that.

But what will they do?
Mirage works because the goal of SoH is completely separate from the goal of her 1&3, meaning they dont overlap and become op. Any of the 3 abilities in a frame that can use them would be meta defining

[ShogunGunshow]

Apparently Pablo says that Firewalk will be the transferable ability for Nezha so I'm totally wrong that they'd avoid buff abilities 🤷‍♂️

Bring on the Gauss with Firewalk for Sanic memes.

[kwlingo]

Just now, (PS4)ITS_TH3GOD said:

lol they wont allow that.

Yes pretty much cast 3, 1, then 2 and everything dies automatically because Sleight of hand already kills enemies at spawn spots lol. Scaling damage at spawn locations ahahah

[ShogunGunshow]

Wait.

Hydroid can cast things inside his pool.

Can Hydroid use Mag's Pull inside Undertow to vacuum everyone inside?

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

1 minute ago, DarthRednax said:

But what will they do?
Mirage works because the goal of SoH is completely separate from the goal of her 1&3, meaning they dont overlap and become op. Any of the 3 abilities in a frame that can use them would be meta defining

i just dont think DE would even allow any abilities that could potentially make any said frame OP or so on

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

Just now, ShogunGunshow said:

Wait.

Hydroid can cast things inside his pool.

Can Hydroid use Mag's Pull inside Undertow to vacuum everyone inside?

yooo that would be wild.

[Markus-Aleksandr]

When the Helminth gets a hold of Equinox.

[kwlingo]

1 minute ago, DarthRednax said:

But what will they do?
Mirage works because the goal of SoH is completely separate from the goal of her 1&3, meaning they dont overlap and become op. Any of the 3 abilities in a frame that can use them would be meta defining

Saryn's 3rd turned on allows for any damaged enemy to spread the spores while sleigh of hand augment can do 20-50m damage allowing for all enemies to receive damage and auto trigger spores without have to damage any enemy with weapons.

[DarthRednax]

The reason that op options will happen is because DE too often relies on frames lacking synergy between abilities for balance. There will be some way to put a more synergistic ability on an already good frame and push it over the edge.

[ShogunGunshow]

Of course we have to get a good look at the Helminth abilities, too.

[Lutesque]

3 minutes ago, ShogunGunshow said:

Wait.

Hydroid can cast things inside his pool.

Can Hydroid use Mag's Pull inside Undertow to vacuum everyone inside?

Ofcourse. But what would be the Point.... ? Undertow is still extremely Slow....

I guess you can use it just Remove Enemies from the Equation without Killing them .

 

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

4 minutes ago, Markus-Aleksandr said:

When the Helminth gets a hold of Equinox.

lol 

[Markus-Aleksandr]

Just now, ShogunGunshow said:

Of course we have to get a good look at the Helminth abilities, too.

At the very least, it looks like they had some decent utility, which is far more than what can be said for the abilities one would get rid of (looking at you, Ballistic Battery)

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

2 minutes ago, DarthRednax said:

The reason that op options will happen is because DE too often relies on frames lacking synergy between abilities for balance. There will be some way to put a more synergistic ability on an already good frame and push it over the edge.

not when they have the safety net of only using trash abilities

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

2 minutes ago, ShogunGunshow said:

Of course we have to get a good look at the Helminth abilities, too.

did they show any of them though?