(PSN)satsukixpenny Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 It think it is cool that perhaps the person who created the frames modeled them after his love or someone he thinks of but the frames themselves I do not think should be considered as a romantic couple. The frames are of technology and flesh and probably do not have the concept of love in them. However, I think that the pair being infamous to the Tenno as a kind of poetic symbolism with their powers working well together is a very amazing concept!! Also so if anything batman goes with cat woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 18 hours ago, SirSleepy said: "For your consideration..." It sounds like he's talking to a board of investors, advertising the "latest in Orokin Warframe Technology." I just thought that was interesting. That was the vibe I got from watching it. A tech demo. Also, more interesting was the fact this was aimed at what is presumably a social faction with the Orokin society, namely the corpus or what they were when the empire still stood. Apparently, the Orokin Empire was rather fractious. Parallels with the Roman Empire are hard to ignore. Or maybe Byzantium, though the executor council seems more like late republican Rome, especially near the time of the social war. Interesting stuff as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroLord Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Hope its Askileto, i love this guns too. 17 hours ago, OzoneSlayer said: What about Akzani? Open your eyes once again, its definitly not akzani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Once more I feel that DE is shrinking the Timeline. Ballas confuses what we knew, the Stalker likewise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)VayMathias Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I really hope they fix the Repelling Bastille bugs before this is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 On 4/22/2016 at 4:15 PM, (PS4)Lowk721 said: Just frame cross-powers interaction alone would be cool. Having one special based on the history of the frames would be that cool extra bonus. Plus, this can be used so people arent pushed in playing certain frames. You know, "we need a frost!" On 4/22/2016 at 4:23 PM, TARINunit9 said: Unless DE proves otherwise, I'm going in the assumption that Ballas is dead. Like long dead, died alongside his Emperors in the Outer Terminus the day we pissed off Stalker. This would have been centuries before the capital-C Corpus ever existed Also Margulis is not Saryn. Saryn was a gift that Ballas created in Margulis's memory Doesnt matter if he is dead or alive now, the videos shows him talking about the process of the creation of the frame. He is explaining why each frame was made in both videos. He clearly states that Vauban is to fight the Corpus to stop their greed, to stop them from profiting from the end of the war. So this tells us that he was alive after the rebellion of the tenno and that he created Vauban after the Old War ended specifically to fight the Corpus. So it appears that there were some Orokin left still trying to get their empire back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JaysInc_ Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Vauban is to Saryn as Excalibur is to Nyx, non-canonical relations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, Mak_Gohae said: Doesnt matter if he is dead or alive now, the videos shows him talking about the process of the creation of the frame. He is explaining why each frame was made in both videos. He clearly states that Vauban is to fight the Corpus to stop their greed, to stop them from profiting from the end of the war. So this tells us that he was alive after the rebellion of the tenno and that he created Vauban after the Old War ended specifically to fight the Corpus. So it appears that there were some Orokin left still trying to get their empire back. Possibly, it's kinda vague. Obviously it's cherry-picked to sound exactly like the modern capital-C Corpus. But also remember, the Orokin weren't as unified as they like to claim. The Mara Detron's codex blurb spells out they had pirate raiders and other nasty groups like that; perhaps they are the "merchantiles" that Ballas looks down upon with such disdain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redthirst Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 6 hours ago, Mak_Gohae said: The Saryn introduction makes it seem like that dude made Saryn in her image. He is "talking" to her about what he is doing. I will say that Vauban is a bit more vague but he does sound mad about what they are doing after the war ended. He was simply telling her that her sacrifice wasn't in vain and that he transformed the "flowers"(i.e Tenno) into deadly weapon. Saryn was dedicated to Margulis because she was made specificaly to reclaim the Earth, and Margulis used to dream about it. There was nothing about Saryn being modeled after Margulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerakl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) As someone who has about 50% of their game time put into two frames (Saryn and Saryn P) I definitely do not ship this. Edited April 23, 2016 by Jerakl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 At this point I have heard multiple people claim it is both weapons by means of datamining or otherwise, all claiming with certainty and none giving any proof on the matter. It could be either one... until I hear something official I refuse to get my hopes up about either weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrosaurHero Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I can't see it being anything other than the Akstilleto. The primed variant looks like the Akstilleto but with more gold to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--F--NerevarCM Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 13 hours ago, Sloan441 said: That was the vibe I got from watching it. A tech demo. Also, more interesting was the fact this was aimed at what is presumably a social faction with the Orokin society, namely the corpus or what they were when the empire still stood. Apparently, the Orokin Empire was rather fractious. Parallels with the Roman Empire are hard to ignore. Or maybe Byzantium, though the executor council seems more like late republican Rome, especially near the time of the social war. Interesting stuff as always. Corpus exists as Archmedians since the Orokin Empire. After the fall, they started as scavengers, then funded colonies and industries, and now are Corpus. DE doesn't have archmedian models in game, that's why they used Corpus in the trailer. Saryn trailer shows her killing infested grineer, while Ballas is talking about Infested Earth during the War. To me, Ballas is talking about Archmedians and how Vauban could be the perfect weapon against them and their machines. Ballas really was/is a Orokin elitist. He hated the Archmedians because their greed weakened the Empire and hate the Tenno because they are powerfull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKDK Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Vauban prime definately looks Baro ish...or maybe Baro stole the looks from him. Can't wait to see his primed ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceheart125 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 From what I've seen: fragor prime, akstilletto prime, and the passive I've heard rumblings of a buff based on alliies, which would fit his namesake. Reddit's got a little more info, though, bring your grains of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) I'm more curious about the new Vauban's stats than anything. I am expecting some kind of energy buff because he is a caster, but I also feel like he badly needs an armor buff. And with all the new armor bits on him I think an armor buff probably is likely -- he looks noticeably more bulky. It would also make sense and fit well with his rumored new passive ability. I would be fine with only getting Loki and Nova Prime levels of energy instead of Volt and Saryn Prime if it meant getting a bigger armor buff though. I mean, he definitely needs a energy increase, but he is slow and relies on locking down everything, he really needs more armor above all else. Edited April 24, 2016 by Tesseract7777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) I'm just hopeing they rework Trash-Ban, as all of his powers are useless (besides Vortex/Bestill) They need to remove his Jump-Pad & Tesla, cuz they are trash, every other frame, can do his stuff better P.S Whats this passive people talk about? Edited April 24, 2016 by LegionCynex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 3 hours ago, -SDM-NerevarCM said: Corpus exists as Archmedians since the Orokin Empire. After the fall, they started as scavengers, then funded colonies and industries, and now are Corpus. DE doesn't have archmedian models in game, that's why they used Corpus in the trailer. Saryn trailer shows her killing infested grineer, while Ballas is talking about Infested Earth during the War. To me, Ballas is talking about Archmedians and how Vauban could be the perfect weapon against them and their machines. Ballas really was/is a Orokin elitist. He hated the Archmedians because their greed weakened the Empire and hate the Tenno because they are powerfull. To be honest, what I gathered from the trailer is that Ballas is somehow talking about the present-day, and the actions Vauban Prime perform are present-day as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 "Lust was my sin. But greed is the blight that weakens us still. These industrialists, gorged on the harvest of our long war. Their mind-drones, their mechanizations toil in foundries remote. For what purpose? We must set watch upon them, baiting our snares with the worms of profit. Those who kneel at the altar of commerce will be returned to the Void. For your consideration... Vauban." ~ BOOBEN Prime Trailer The way its spoken at the end has 2 interpretations: 1) Someone send a message to Vauban to consider what the Corpus are doing: profiting from the Old War's ruins. And decide how to best act on it (which of course was: kill 'em). But it remains a mystery on "who" is it. Its not Balas, this is after the Orokin fell. And that person was there when the Old War and the fall of the Orokin happened, so who? 2) Its in the form of a message and can be put like this: "Lust was (...) returned to the Void. For your consideration, Vauban." It implies that Vauban himself send that message and someone else is reading it. What you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It's Ballas. He's not talking about the Corpus, he's talking about the Orokin. It's just that his message parallels what the Corpus became. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikeOrShield Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) It's Ballas, and he is likely asking the Council of Executors to consider and approve his new warframe: Vauban. It's voiced by the same person that did the previous trailer and the line "Lust was my sin" is probably referring to his love for Margulis. Edited April 24, 2016 by PikeOrShield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruelitas Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) I Think its Vauban him self. Sending a Messag to the Orokin Council or the Lotus (before the Tenno decided to rip the Empire appart but after the War with the Sentinents). The Corpus where there even at this time .He questiones their plans because they still run their Machniery nonstop for no reason but to make profit out of the War the Tenno and Orokin Soldiers fought. Edited April 24, 2016 by Cruelitas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It's the same voice actor who did Ballas, speaking in the same accent, and talking about the same things (his love for Margulis, etc). It's definitely Ballas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaokasalis Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It is Ballas. Its the same voice from the Saryn Prime trailer and the second dream flashbacks. Also notice how he said "our long war"? Fairly certain thats meant to imply the old war is still going on and that the Corpus at the time somehow profited from the war. Mabye the Corpus rose so much in power from these profits that the Orokin thought they could potentially challenge them and the Orokin in their panoria made the first Vaubans to keep them in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp215 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 The guy talking is Ballas, I think he's sort of like the guy who designs warframes, his narration is a letter requesting approval of his design which is Vauban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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