General_Durandal Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 hours ago, main_antagonist said: Reading complaints about the stasis slowing down/freezing projectiles ... like ... really guys? Why be negative about it, just don't use that ability? At least complain and say it should be implemented as an augment if you don't like the concept, instead of hating on something we haven't even got access to yet ... Who knows you might actually enjoy it? I'll just assume you only read the "it's dumb" comments, (that give no reason to why) and non of the, "it's bad because" comments. (that explain why it's bad and how they could fix it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickst3rGawd Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Question: If Limbo is in a different plane of existence, should enemies be able to see him when he alone is in the rift?? Don`t you thank that`s weird? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 To your question: Yes. To your "that's weird": No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) It's specifically a plane of existence that overlaps with our own, you can see it but you can't touch it. Edited February 21, 2017 by rapt0rman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainchompguy3 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Well, to be fair, it is supposedly NOT an alternate plane of existence, but rather "A space between spaces". That's why it was so hard for ordis to originally understand. I don't know what a "space in between spaces" would mean for someone's sight, so I can't really answer that. But if it WERE an alternate plane of reality, there'd be more to worry about than being seen by enemies. Because remember, nothing in the known universe is just standing still: it's all hurtling through space at absurd speeds. If limbo removed himself from this reality, then the gravity holding him inside-the-ship/on-the-planet would stop affecting him, and he'd basically watch as the rest of the tile-set moved right out from under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentiGlondi Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Enemies and their guns can enter the cataclysm bubble, but bullets shot from afar just go right through it. People and guns exist on only one plane of existence, while architecture exists on both simultaneously. Don't try to make sense of a game mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Gameplay-wise, I think it's a good balance act and a feature that can work to Limbo's advantage. Because enemies can still see you, it makes you think before you jump out of the Rift to unload your bullets on enemies, who are aware of your presence and already dead set on making holes in your tailored suit. On the other hand, Limbo can attract enemies and act as an invulnerable decoy for his teammates while looking ever so stylish. Lore-wise, the Rift Plane is wedged between the Material Plane and the Void, a pocket dimension connecting both "main" dimensions. While things in different planes are out of phase, there is still some weird laws of physics that apply. That's likely why Limbo can still stand on the ground from the Material Plane and not fall through drifting through Rift space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chofranc Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 When limbo enter the rift technically is like a ghost or something like that, enemies can still see you but they can't touch you and he can't touch them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktriaz Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Shhhhh just don't think about it Edited February 21, 2017 by Actriaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchPhaeton Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, chainchompguy3 said: Well, to be fair, it is supposedly NOT an alternate plane of existence, but rather "A space between spaces". That's why it was so hard for ordis to originally understand. I don't know what a "space in between spaces" would mean for someone's sight, so I can't really answer that. But if it WERE an alternate plane of reality, there'd be more to worry about than being seen by enemies. Because remember, nothing in the known universe is just standing still: it's all hurtling through space at absurd speeds. If limbo removed himself from this reality, then the gravity holding him inside-the-ship/on-the-planet would stop affecting him, and he'd basically watch as the rest of the tile-set moved right out from under him. This is the kind of situations where I tell myself, "warframe is not a simulator" I have enough reality IRL anyways, let the imagination fly in my games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatose Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Of course he should be visible. Because that is inconsistent with itself - lasers shoot right though, so light doesn't interact with things in the rift, except when it does - and Warframe's physics runs on delightful inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Your first mistake was trying to make sense of Limbos mathmatical Void Voodoo. Your second mistake was not giving an offering to his amazing hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Zashukitsune Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 My main issue is the simple fact that an infested swarm (as the major example) will almost certainly fill up his maximum quota just by running headlong into cataclysm. I like the concept, I want to see it implemented some way (like maybe just slowing enemies in the rift or stealing health from them?) But this way feels like it can ONLY hinder him compared to his other abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Think of being in the rift as being on the other side of a glass window/door, you can still see through the window but you cant interact with anything on the other side till you go through that window/door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)mr_chainsaw555 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 On 2/18/2017 at 10:59 PM, (PS4)mahoshonenfox said: They didn't say it was removed. They just said it does some new things. Not sure that its ability to make little rift bubbles from enemies is a good thing. though. well, i sure hope they didn't remove it, because ultimately my favorite part my limbo as he currently stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schregger Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 hours ago, (PS4)psycofang said: Your first mistake was trying to make sense of Limbos mathmatical Void Voodoo. Your second mistake was not giving an offering to his amazing hat. Which one? I offer sacrifices to each... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I always assumed it worked like the end of that one episode of Cowboy Bebop with the eco-terrorists turning people into monkeys that were trapped in hyperspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thexceedel Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Jojo reference cuz why not :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronxito Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Claro que si guapi..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LokiTheCondom Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Was hoping to see a fanart of Limbo pulling a Dio. DISAPPOINTED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, LokiTheCondom said: Was hoping to see a fanart of Limbo pulling a Dio. DISAPPOINTED same here :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
main_antagonist Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 19 hours ago, Chewarette said: Anyway, did the Rift Surge have to be changed ? Its damage boost is completely fine, completely changing it to an uncontrollable feature seems really, really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Schregger said: Which one? I offer sacrifices to each... All of the hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevrex97 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Inb4 Atlas Ora Ora build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olav152 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Offtop question. WTH "za warudo" means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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