Spartan336 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 The "Like, Thanks, Confusion, ect" icons are all now more 2D and stuff. What do we think about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 not as easy to read visually but that's as much down to size as design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Fine by me, the emojis were pure cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Sad and Confused no longer exist in the options. Replaced by Woah and Satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Less apt to be used condescendingly as pseudo-downvotes now. Though you can still laugh at people with dumb opinions :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan336 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Kinetos said: Sad and Confused no longer exist in the options. Replaced by Woah and Satisfied. And Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 No point to them, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckboy3825 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, rapt0rman said: Less apt to be used condescendingly as pseudo-downvotes now. Though you can still laugh at people with dumb opinions :P Just FYI the laugh emote counts as an upvote. Still kinda wish there was an emote that showed disagreement/dislike. Edited October 7, 2017 by Duckboy3825 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Ah I can't passive aggressively dislike people's comments with the confused emote anymore? Say it isn't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torint_man Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 22 minutes ago, (PS4)Tactless_Ninja said: Ah I can't passive aggressively dislike people's comments with the confused emote anymore? Say it isn't so. Fear not, as far as I can tell, people are using the woah emote as a downvote button now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 52 minutes ago, Duckboy3825 said: Just FYI the laugh emote counts as an upvote. Still kinda wish there was an emote that showed disagreement/dislike. A dislike option never leads to good discussion nor does it foster a positive atmosphere. It just gives people room to essentially shout down someone's opinion without ever voicing why, which is useless and helps no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 45 minutes ago, torint_man said: Fear not, as far as I can tell, people are using the woah emote as a downvote button now. it does however count as an upvote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saksoy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 there is new icons? where is old ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METAHUMVN Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndermanBeast Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Saksoy said: there is new icons? where is old ones? our precious lotus sent them to die. and also, I hate these new icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Littleman88 said: A dislike option never leads to good discussion nor does it foster a positive atmosphere. It just gives people room to essentially shout down someone's opinion without ever voicing why, which is useless and helps no one. but it does give a quick visual indication to the OP, often the dev's, whether we approve of their idea or not.... I didn't even notice it was missing but I do agree we need a 'disapprove' option, what's the point in having all the other emotes if they're all just 'positive' ones when there are times when we don't like stuff like in real life.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othergrunty Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 So people can no longer use the confused icon to express their dislike or at least bewildered reaction to someone's post. I wonder if one of the other icons will eventualy be established as implied "I find this dumb." symbol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sziklamester Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 These new ones are not likely and I do agree there need some emote to express if you not agree with an idea. Personally I am just using the up vote option because that indicates I like that idea. Otherwise the emotes pretty useless if those cannot scale the opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Gonna missed the confused emote the most. I get it was used as a "downvote" button, but what other option did we have? We sould be able to express disagreement if we're not able to put a detailed response. Now the icons are too friendly and doesn't do anything but enforce certain behaviors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, LSG501 said: but it does give a quick visual indication to the OP, often the dev's, whether we approve of their idea or not.... I didn't even notice it was missing but I do agree we need a 'disapprove' option, what's the point in having all the other emotes if they're all just 'positive' ones when there are times when we don't like stuff like in real life.... If you dislike a post, say why, and then let the likes towards that post serve as a form of down vote towards the opposition. Down votes are just a grievance that dissuades conversation by giving the opponent a way to instantly disagree while not giving the defendant anything to work with and offer little to no info as to why or what exactly their opponents disagree with. It's just not a beneficial feature in any capacity. Dislikes procure no positive reactions. People don't feel good about disliking a post (unless they take pleasure in being spiteful,) the poster doesn't feel good about their post being disliked, and getting a simple dislike doesn't tell the developers if the post got a dislike because of the topic of the post or because the poster called someone a jerky-mc-jerk face (yes, people will downvote for one small part of a whole post they might otherwise agree with.) It gets worse when it gets to hive-mind levels, where dislikes can dissuade people from speaking their opinion at all for fear of mass down votes. And here's the truth of the matter - people are more willing to down vote than they are to up vote. Reaching for my strawman to provide an example, imagine someone down voting a post saying "The modding system is fine! It doesn't need fixed!" Down voting that is akin to saying "the modding system is broken, please fix it." Fix it how though? Where does DE start? And while liking the "modding system is fine!" post doesn't explain why One likes it specifically, it can be properly inferred that people liking it generally think the system is fine exactly the way it is. But if "modding is fine and here's why!" gets 15 upvotes and, "modding is broken and here's why!" gets 40? Well, now we see where the community stands on the topic, and it instinctively laid the ground work for discussion in the process. That's a win-win. Finally, NO ONE starts a topic asking for a dislike button. But they will start topics complaining about it. Made this observation on every gaming forum I've been on. (YMMV, my bias and all that.) Simply put, if as a developer you want to foster positive discussion on your boards, you'll want to make sure to only provide tools that create positive reactions. "Positive reactions" includes posting with an opposing viewpoint, and then police them as such (no witch hunts, no rewriting quoted text beyond *snip* to save on screen space, etc.) Edited October 7, 2017 by Littleman88 Re-ordering text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) I'd be happy if it went back to a little green up arrow and nothing else. Although good to see a Forum change that hasn't brought everything else to a crashing standstill unlike most of the other recent changes Edited October 7, 2017 by AzureTerra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Littleman88 said: snip I never said anything about not posting elsewhere, but the simple fact is that a 'dislike' button does give a visual cue to whether or not the original post has been positively received without the need to go through in some cases over 100 pages. This purely 'positive' approach is also a very clever way of hiding the fact that a large proportion of people dislike something being suggested by the dev's for example, the changes to focus for example had a pretty large number of sad emoticons attached, now with the change this has been removed so it now looks like 'everyone' loves the changes being put forward and this is quite simply not true if you read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashionFrame Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) As long as it doesn't turn into annoying Facebook emojis, I'll be fine. Like this piece of trash that's overused on the Internet: 😂😂😂😂😂 Edited October 7, 2017 by FashionFrame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, LSG501 said: I never said anything about not posting elsewhere, but the simple fact is that a 'dislike' button does give a visual cue to whether or not the original post has been positively received without the need to go through in some cases over 100 pages. This purely 'positive' approach is also a very clever way of hiding the fact that a large proportion of people dislike something being suggested by the dev's for example, the changes to focus for example had a pretty large number of sad emoticons attached, now with the change this has been removed so it now looks like 'everyone' loves the changes being put forward and this is quite simply not true if you read the thread. And the forum is better for it. Never said people would like it, just the psychology is there. Dislikes don't contribute to a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelsierSurvivor Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Allow me to demonstrate. (Hope you don't mind me using your question as an example.) 12 hours ago, (PS4)Tactless_Ninja said: Ah I can't passive aggressively dislike people's comments with the confused emote anymore? Say it isn't so. oror etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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