foxydadee Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Well well well, looks like you naysayers are eating crow right now. Where's your lovely little pun DElayed now? You should be ashamed of yourselves. From this day forward, we shall only talk of DE's epic DEarly release of Empyrean. #DEarly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Pepper23 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 would rather have it delayed. This is a bug infested release. died outside of railjack and cant respawn. Once mission fails, then gets stuck on loading screen.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Dio_Brando Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) And dont forget offline friends bug and being unable to play with randoms in "COOP ONLY" new mode) Edited December 13, 2019 by Lord_Dio_Brando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Stealth_Cobra Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) i'm mostly appaled that the very first mission has your ship almost destroyed like 15 seconds into the fight, and requires multiple failures, near deaths and constant upkeep and repairs to even finish it. C'mon DE, railjack was shown to us at least two years ago , and you haven't managed to make the first mission playable since then ? Wjy not do a simple, easy mission where you fight a couple of easy ships to get your bearings ? Why does my ship has less HP and survivablity than an archwing , making it feel like a piece of fragile porcelaine floating in space. There's zero tutorialisation about anything , and the only reason I have a remote idea of what to do is because I watched some devstreams. Quick feedback time: 1 - The starter guns are atrocious. They have very low range, terrible tracking and deal almost no damage. 2 - There's way too many enemies, especially for a first mission. 3 - Having people infiltrating and your ship getting constantly destroyed on a 60 seconds wipe mechanic 30 seconds into a mission is no fun. Can't even leave the ship for a second because it becomes a critical risk of destruction. 4 - The ship is very slow in both movement and rotation, making it really hard to follow and track ships. 5 - Side windows are too small and visibility is crap, also since you can't really readjust the view, and since the pilot is always moving, you usually get targets in view for a split second before they are out of view again, making side gunners useless (maybe once you unlock tracking missiles). 6 - The feedback on repairing holes in the ship is unclear. Sometimes It appears to fixes itself almost immediately , other times I go back and forth with the guns without the hole ever appearing to close. Edited December 13, 2019 by (PS4)Stealth_Cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxydadee Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 But but but, DEarly 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDweller Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) If i recall right this is part 2 of the update?Plus liches supposed to be in railjack and they pushed TNW back in order to push this "part" now .Even if we forget all of the above and assume this is a the full thing, techincally it's the last week of the fall so still not DEarly. Edited December 13, 2019 by DeathDweller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetman Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 No lich system, no squad link, no solo. Overpromised. Under[DE]livered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Pepper23 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Yeah I'm not going to touch this much or better yet at all until DE gets back from vacation. A shame since this was supposed to be the "big one." Plenty of other games releasing new stuff and also steam sales soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The games still in beta, it's fine. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 From what I gather from people here, my clan, other Discords etc., this update really needs to be DEarly DElayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helch0rn Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, foxydadee said: Well well well, looks like you naysayers are eating crow right now. Where's your lovely little pun DElayed now? You should be ashamed of yourselves. From this day forward, we shall only talk of DE's epic DEarly release of Empyrean. #DEarly a single instance of DE being early does not compensate all the other times things were delayed EDIT: Railjack was scheduled for fall 2019. Meteoroligical winter starts december 1st, calender beginning of winter is december 21. so depending on what system you prefer it got delayed or it's on time but not early Edited December 13, 2019 by Helch0rn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Buggy mess where you cant play with your friends, er no ty. i'd rather wait longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuraja Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Considering that they seem to completely broken matchmaking with this update, it really should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, (PS4)Stealth_Cobra said: i'm mostly appaled that the very first mission has your ship almost destroyed like 15 seconds into the fight, and requires multiple failures, near deaths and constant upkeep and repairs to even finish it. C'mon DE, railjack was shown to us at least two years ago , and you haven't managed to make the first mission playable since then ? Wjy not do a simple, easy mission where you fight a couple of easy ships to get your bearings ? Why does my ship has less HP and survivablity than an archwing , making it feel like a piece of fragile porcelaine floating in space. There's zero tutorialisation about anything , and the only reason I have a remote idea of what to do is because I watched some devstreams. Quick feedback time: 1 - The starter guns are atrocious. They have very low range, terrible tracking and deal almost no damage. 2 - There's way too many enemies, especially for a first mission. 3 - Having people infiltrating and your ship getting constantly destroyed on a 60 seconds wipe mechanic 30 seconds into a mission is no fun. Can't even leave the ship for a second because it becomes a critical risk of destruction. 4 - The ship is very slow in both movement and rotation, making it really hard to follow and track ships. 5 - Side windows are too small and visibility is crap, also since you can't really readjust the view, and since the pilot is always moving, you usually get targets in view for a split second before they are out of view again, making side gunners useless (maybe once you unlock tracking missiles). 6 - The feedback on repairing holes in the ship is unclear. Sometimes It appears to fixes itself almost immediately , other times I go back and forth with the guns without the hole ever appearing to close. I can answer almost all of these points with one question. Are you playing solo, or co-op? Because much of what you just complained about is not that big of a problem if you're playing co-op. And DE specifically stated Railjack's first update will be co-op intensive. NPC crews will become available at a later date. As for the rest, keep in mind that our railjacks are to be upgraded just like our warframes and weapons have to be. You're not going to start with a top of the line, extremely fast, insanely powerful ship. You have to work up towards such upgrades. And, after only 4 hours of playing with friends doing just the first two missions, I'm already seeing huge improvements on my end. You have to walk before you can run, just like everything else in this game and games similar to it. Oh, and I was the Engineer of my group. Repairing holes is as easy as dragging your mouse along the breach. Some of the smaller breaches don't need as much movement. Fires, ice, and electricity are fixed by playing the mining minigame. Very simple stuff. Edited December 13, 2019 by SoulEchelon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SolarPhantom82 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 hours ago, foxydadee said: Well well well, looks like you naysayers are eating crow right now. Where's your lovely little pun DElayed now? You should be ashamed of yourselves. From this day forward, we shall only talk of DE's epic DEarly release of Empyrean. #DEarly Say that about the New War. All they did was release about 25% of an update they promise would be out by now, then there going on Christmas break, I think us "naysayers" will keep calling DE, DElayed for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Pepper23 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, (PS4)SolarPhantom82 said: Say that about the New War. All they did was release about 25% of an update they promise would be out by now, then there going on Christmas break, I think us "naysayers" will keep calling DE, DElayed for now. This^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevoisvevo Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, foxydadee said: Well well well, looks like you naysayers are eating crow right now. Where's your lovely little pun DElayed now? You should be ashamed of yourselves. From this day forward, we shall only talk of DE's epic DEarly release of Empyrean. #DEarly Doesn't ring off the 👅 that well sorry lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 What are you talking about? Railjack was originally anticipated to release almost a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)ToadBlue Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 DEad On Arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisibleaxeman Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 [DE]bug might be the new mantra. That said, despite the bugs new mode seems fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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