UrielColtan Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, (PS4)godlysparta said: I'm just not impressed. It's boring and not awesome like Vauban Prime's or Nekros Prime's. Also, does anyone have all the parts for Valkyr Prime yet? I want to know the build requirements. Nor as good as Saryn's. Those all had moving cutscenes and lore implications. Edited November 23, 2016 by UrielColtan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrielColtan Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, (XB1)Knight Raime said: Guys. Rob talked to megan. the one out rn is just a teaser. the actual trailer is in the works still and will have ballas's voice in it. Alright then, hopefully that is indeed the case and you are not just joshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maqabir Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, UrielColtan said: Alright then, hopefully that is indeed the case and you are not just joshing. They talked about it in the comments for the video on the Warframe Facebook page, a trailer is supposedly in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardBlade Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 If primes are the original version, and the Gersemi skin for Valkyr is the untouched version, before Alad V twisted Valkyr to look like it does in the base model, WHY does Valkyr Prime have the arm bonds of Alad V's Valkyr? Chordalla Prime should not be a thing. Valkyr prime, at the very least, should be free of bonds, like Gersemi Valkyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I really hope that there is a proper trailer with Ballas coming cos if thats all there is then its a sad joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Of the last several prime trailers Valkyr is probably my most favorite, its similar to the old way DE used to do primes, albeit loosely, and I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook-EN- Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Based on lore, Valkyr Prime was the original. Salad was trying to make the Valkyr we know now to look like the original. Which is the Prime, not Gersemi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardBlade Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 That doesn't quite make much sense. Where did Gersmi Valkyr come from, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zryel Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Cook-EN- said: Based on lore, Valkyr Prime was the original. Salad was trying to make the Valkyr we know now to look like the original. Which is the Prime, not Gersemi So... the Orokin also chain Valkyr like the Corpus did? Interesting...makes total sense... Just like the operator says about the Corpus missions: "These Corpus remind me of the Orokin, selfish, greedy." Poor Valkyr even as soon as came to be she was enslave... so her Proto-skin means that was her baby skin before Orokin Prime her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monchopin Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Because DE can't into lore or writing and love to retcon things 34 minutes ago, Cook-EN- said: Based on lore, Valkyr Prime was the original. Salad was trying to make the Valkyr we know now to look like the original. Which is the Prime, not Gersemi That explains the general looks, not the bonds Besides, based on lore, Valkyr Prime should not exist Edited November 23, 2016 by Monchopin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinthAria Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 They're decorative ribbons, not chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instinction Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) So I was thinking after noticing quite a few people (rightfully so) upset about Valkyr prime having her Corpus "bonds". How could this be? This is the prime, the OG Valkyr, there was no experiment. Cut to the chase: You know how when Valkyr rages, she whips out those dank energy claws? What if those "bonds" on the side of her forearms, are not actually bonds? What if instead, they are like power gauntlets batteries, that house the energy for those op energy claws? Now I know what your saying next, "But Instinction! The dangly bits!" Now yes, I agree the tubes on the BASE version (non-prime) of Valkyr are indeed a form of Corpus bonds (like they plugged her into something as part of the experiment). However, you will notice Valkyr prime ALSO has dangly bits, which are most definitely not Corpus bond/experiment tubing. SO, maaaaaybe, the Corpus just ripped out the base version Valkyr's dangly bits, and used the "slots" and/or "outlets" to implant their own tubing for the experimentation? And there I rest my case. Please feel free to debate/conjecture, but let's keep it civil. This is not a bashing thread, this is to debate the explanation of Valkyr/Valkyr prime's lore. Edited November 23, 2016 by Instinction Fixed multiple typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzamo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Considering the "restraints" of her Prime are stated to be ribbons of honor or something I don't see the torture part from the Orokin. I see more overt claw emitters than what the deluxe skin had but it could be a higher grade of work that was stripped off for the mass run version. If you look you will be parts of both the deluxe and the base Valkyr in the new prime, which makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 hour ago, morningstar999 said: considering how cool the Vauban and Necros ones where why was this one so phoned in and rushed? This is a lower quality than previous Trailer Primes, yes. But why? Why?! Hmmm, I wonder if they'd been busy working on a huge amount of new art, voice acting, sound design and animation content for the game at the time they would also have been working on this trailer. I wonder what that might have been. Hmmm.... Spoiler The War Within. It's the bloody War Within. New planet, tileset, structures, enemies, a movie's worth of voice and cutscenes, new enemies, new weapons and moveable Operators. They. Have. Been. Busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 People are thinking way too much into this. First off, she's NEVER (EVER EVER EVER) going to ever have lore that makes sense, unless pre-corpus Valk is a completely different frame, simply because her current movesets are POST-corpus regardless what era. Even for some reason she was already a super berserker frame in her Orokin form, then it's the Gersemi skin that's hurting lore. People are so crazy with aesthetics like things can't be worn (OH... LIKE SYANDANAS), I'm a pants guy but I can wear shorts, skirts, and everything in between, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TertulSee Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Maybe the Orokin also experimented with her. She was tortured by the Orokin and restrained because she was a nuisance for her Beserk attitude and her uncontrollable rage. Maybe the Primed Valkyr had anger management issues so they had to keep her restrained or else she will wreck everything. This is speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 They're not bonds. CHORDALLA PRIME Ceremonial ribbons, worn with pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem2-TheClemening Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Maybe the Prime was a PR version, that was restrained when viewed in public to make civilians feel safer and make the Orokin look more powerful. This is the rip-and-tear frame, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instinction Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LazerSkink said: They're not bonds. 8 hours ago, [DE]Megan said: CHORDALLA PRIME Ceremonial ribbons, worn with pride. This goes along with my lines of thinking. The Corpus could have possibly removed her dangly bits on the base version, to implant their own devices. Edited November 23, 2016 by Instinction more typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instinction Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, MarrikBroom said: The thing that makes me raise an eyebrow is how much the tail spike looks like it's the handle to a dagger and part of the bit that extends up into the body looks likea sheath. Where and how can you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 50 minutes ago, Cook-EN- said: Based on lore, Valkyr Prime was the original. Salad was trying to make the Valkyr we know now to look like the original. Which is the Prime, not Gersemi I like how you start your sentence with "Based on lore" then use your own assumption. 45 minutes ago, NinthAria said: They're decorative ribbons, not chains. Remnants of the bonds that restrained the original Valkyr during her time in 'the lab'. A reminder to never forget the torment. -Wiki Don't tell me those are "decorative ribbons". Also hi Beard o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulcun Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, TheLocalHentai said: People are thinking way too much into this. First off, she's NEVER (EVER EVER EVER) going to ever have lore that makes sense, unless pre-corpus Valk is a completely different frame, simply because her current movesets are POST-corpus regardless what era. Even for some reason she was already a super berserker frame in her Orokin form, then it's the Gersemi skin that's hurting lore. People are so crazy with aesthetics like things can't be worn (OH... LIKE SYANDANAS), I'm a pants guy but I can wear shorts, skirts, and everything in between, too. Only two possible outcomes from this. First, either the Gersemi skin is invalidated.... In which case I want my platinum back. Or second, the break in lore invalidates the last 3 years with all the reference and influence made with all of the tactical alerts, quests, and events that have involved reference of Alad V and his experiments on warframes and abuse of valkyr.... which makes the players experience nothing more than a money grab attempt. In which case, I still want my platinum back. In either case, there is enough false advertising to really make somebody angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac10smg--Toa_of_Green Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 36 minutes ago, TheLocalHentai said: simply because her current movesets are POST-corpus regardless what era. ...proof? And don't say her codex entry, that can be taken a few ways. Edited November 23, 2016 by mac10smg-ToaOfGreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 54 minutes ago, Instinction said: What if those "bonds" on the side of her forearms, are not actually bonds? What if instead, they are like power gauntlets batteries, that house the energy for those op energy claws? Those are restraints. 55 minutes ago, Instinction said: However, you will notice Valkyr prime ALSO has dangly bits, which are most definitely not Corpus bond/experiment tubing. See, this is here i have a huge problem. If the game tells you those on her prime are Ceremonial ribbons, then she doesn't need them. Unless, she needs ribbons to make herself angry? lmao I see it as DE screwing up, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, Stoner74 said: I like how you start your sentence with "Based on lore" then use your own assumption. Remnants of the bonds that restrained the original Valkyr during her time in 'the lab'. A reminder to never forget the torment. -Wiki Don't tell me those are "decorative ribbons". Also hi Beard o/ DE Megan > Wiki. Sorry but they are ribbons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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