(PSN)LeBlingKing Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I mean think about it. The Prime Warframes are the more Orokin, original counterpart to their Tenno-style Warframe. And Excalibur was literally the first built to counter the Sentients. AND the Founders, putting money into the Founders Program, are some of the first Tenno. It all makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Well, yes. If Excalibur was the first frame made by the Orokin, and Prime frames are the original Orokin versions, logic dictates Excalibur Prime was the first Warframe created in-universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBane1 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Excalibur prime wasn't the first tenno but possibly the first frame. The first tenno was Hayden Tenno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Sector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 If you want to go from the Dark Sector lore, Nemesis Nyx was the first warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, DarthBane1 said: Excalibur prime wasn't the first tenno but possibly the first frame. The first tenno was Hayden Tenno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Sector No he wasn't, Dark Sector's story has no bearing on Warframe's story. The first Tennos were the ones on the Zariman 10-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Spot on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Mofojokers Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Never read far into Warframe lore.... things get muddled alot. Just enjoy slaying 1000s of Infested and fashionframe.😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, DarthBane1 said: Excalibur prime wasn't the first tenno but possibly the first frame. The first tenno was Hayden Tenno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Sector There's only nods to the game they had worked on, the original concept for that game became the premise for what we have now. So, it's quite different. Hayden is just a reference to that title as its owned by the publisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboticApplesWithLasers Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 nope, primes were made later- they were not the original. only made with orokin parts. Nowhere is it even explicitly stated the orokin designed the primes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 welcome to lore please grab a tinfoil hat and proceed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinthAria Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, RoboticApplesWithLasers said: nope, primes were made later- they were not the original. only made with orokin parts. Nowhere is it even explicitly stated the orokin designed the primes. It's pretty clear from the prime frame teasers they've been doing (since Saryn Prime) that the Orokin designed them. The narration in the Vauban Prime trailer in particular makes it sound like Ballas is pitching the idea to the Orokin council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Warframe lore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, RoboticApplesWithLasers said: nope, primes were made later- they were not the original. only made with orokin parts. Nowhere is it even explicitly stated the orokin designed the primes. Ugh, turns out you're right. There are pages in the Warframe website which I recall having that information, but it seems like they were changed. And if they were changed... what counts is what's there now, not what used to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drufo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NinthAria said: It's pretty clear from the prime frame teasers they've been doing (since Saryn Prime) that the Orokin designed them. The narration in the Vauban Prime trailer in particular makes it sound like Ballas is pitching the idea to the Orokin council. ^ The Primes are the original ones. They have better stats because they use the original, more advanced, orokin tech Edited February 7, 2017 by Drufo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeithanDiniem Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, RoboticApplesWithLasers said: nope, primes were made later- they were not the original. only made with orokin parts. Nowhere is it even explicitly stated the orokin designed the primes. Saryn Prime's trailer proves otherwise. "conceived by me" and "I will call her Saryn." Balas designed the idea for Saryn. She is presented in this light as a prime, not as a mass produced version. Being as they are Orokin designed, they would naturally use Orokin parts in their construction and maintain their thematic appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur_Prime Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Correct. Edit: Excalibur Prime was the first Primed Warframe, lore wise. Edited February 7, 2017 by Excalibur_Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDar1o Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RoboticApplesWithLasers said: nope, primes were made later- they were not the original. only made with orokin parts. Nowhere is it even explicitly stated the orokin designed the primes. So Orokin didn't design Primes, but Primes are made with Orokin parts? Edited February 7, 2017 by MrDar1o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 guys, it's not difficult to understand. Primes were made during the Old War, back when Orokin technology dominated the system. the vanilla non-primed frames are cheapened mass produced versions that are less about fanciness and more about function. essentially like taking a nice engraved wheel-lock Pistol, and thinking "how can I make this cheaper and easier to make in greater numbers without making it less lethal? oh I know, I'll make a version that doesn't have the fancy engraving that takes all that time and effort to produce!" Excalibur Prime was the very first Warframe, Excalibur (the vanilla version) was likely the first to be tried with the cheaper production methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CaptainIMalik Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Yes but it could be likely there were prototypes... failed prototypes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Lore is so confusing in Warframe. For all we know there was only one of each Prime warframe, because they only needed one. If Mag Primes user lost her warframe in Tau, they made a new one for her. But the Tenno grew into Clans and Schools, and made their own warframes, weapons and gear. And lets keep in mind the Umbra warframes are supposed to be twisted versions of the Primes. So if Primes was first I think Umbras followed. Then the many variants that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)dursereg Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 If we went by lore proto rhino was the first as well as titania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Akeva-Banshee- Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) AS a fonder I say yes Excal Prime was the first and yes to those who try to dissuade me well.... I will quote Adam Savage. I reject your reality and substitute my own! But seriously no Excal P was not the first. Edited February 8, 2017 by -Akeva-Banshee- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxswatelitexx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) POSSIBLE SPOILERS The way the lore is written that isn't necessarily true. Excalibur was the first Warframe made by the Orokin. Though in the stories of Titania shows that Humans were capable of building warframes also. Which means there is a possibility of other Mobile Frames that pre-dated the orokin. After all - something had to inspire them to make warframes to fight the sentients. Stalker is likely one of those early models - whose operator is stuck in permanent transference - same way Silvana is now stuck in permanent transference in the silver grove. Silvana said she was feeling taint as she experimented with those abilities. Which could lead to the possibility Stalkers mind got corrupted over time due to his state. With that said if Primes were the Original Orokin Models - Could Umbra be even a more -pre orokin version of that? Edited February 8, 2017 by xxswatelitexx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyori Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) I only know the primes are created for DE to earn more money. That's the true lore n fact. lol Edited February 8, 2017 by kyori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratir Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 13 hours ago, Mcl_BlueMadness said: No he wasn't, Dark Sector's story has no bearing on Warframe's story. The first Tennos were the ones on the Zariman 10-0. At one time it had before we get the edgy teenager update.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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