Xekrin Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 29 minutes ago, .Fire_Fly. said: prova and wraith weapons can all be traded You mean prisma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfTitan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, (PS4)geomancer1980 said: That's an over reaction. Tons of other event stuff is available through Void trader or Invasion system, so even if it wasn't tradable it'd pop up elsewhere in time. It's a bonus to have it as clan research, a trophy. It's not meant to be super special beyond that. It doesn't matter what it's "mean to be." What matters are the hard observations: clans are requesting plat to join, and players are shelling out plat to people in prestigious clans for the weapon. Never assume that a weapon will pop up elsewhere: Gorgon Wraith has not returned in years since its introduction in an event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMaverick Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said: If it stays at 10p, that's a great price for essentially no grind. It costs 15k credits and there are literally thousands of clans with the research. If the price stays at or above 10 plat when everyone's research is completed I'll be amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesz Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 they should make 10million credit to replicate a blueprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Saske Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 It is intentional that the blueprint is tradeable: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, ChuckMaverick said: It costs 15k credits and there are literally thousands of clans with the research. If the price stays at or above 10 plat when everyone's research is completed I'll be amazed. if it stays that high I'll be amazed lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Vortus_ Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, ChuckMaverick said: It costs 15k credits and there are literally thousands of clans with the research. If the price stays at or above 10 plat when everyone's research is completed I'll be amazed. Except at the start, like with new primes, the initial price gouging, screwing of new players. The damage is done. 16 minutes ago, Saske said: It is intentional that the blueprint is tradeable: Bravo DE. You screwed over alot players with that one statement. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, -dicht.Heartbreaker- said: they should make 10million credit to replicate a blueprint The harder it is to make, the more profitable it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEP8FlyBoy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) It does no harm to let anyone who didn't get the chance to play the event to get the weapon. It's just a sidegrade to the normal Ignis, and I don't see the problem in letting it be tradable. Just salty players who wasted dedicated their time to actually get the top 10% because they thought it'd be a Platinum Factory. Typical greed. Edited March 10, 2017 by AEP8FlyBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 On the contrary: all clan research BPs should be tradable, so nobody is forced to join clans for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, _Vortus_ said: Except at the start, like with new primes, the initial price gouging, screwing of new players. The damage is done. Bravo DE. You screwed over alot players with that one statement. Well done. They only screwed the greedy ones, for which I`m ok with. Edited March 10, 2017 by aligatorno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukinoki Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, _Vortus_ said: Bravo DE. You screwed over alot players with that one statement. Well done. And how was anyone "screwed over" by making it able to be traded? Serious question there. Even if it was possible to trade it people would do just what they did with the Hema: invite people for them to replicate the research and then drop it. Often times for free. Making it tradable doesn't screw anyone over. In fact it allows people who missed the event, or new players, to get the weapon. Looking at it, making it non-tradable would have screwed over more people... If you think that it screws people over in being able to attract new members I don't see why it would. Its still a selling point for the clans "We got the Ignis Wraith BP research" which still shows your clan got in the top 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jangkrik Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, aligatorno said: They only screwed the greedy ones, for which I`m ok with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, UmbraDestroyer said: As title says Ignis W blueprint can be traded. I think it is bad because after researching there will be no motivation to clan finders, no prestige and no motivation to tryhard future clan events. And I think DE should change it Please, no, leave it tradeable. For those clans that worked to get it, they should have the autonomy to decide what to do with it. I mean, come on, I spent hours up on hours grinding this event, haranging my clan to get higher scores, just so we could hit Victory tier. That landed us into the 10% and I refuse to be told that I dont get to decide what I do with the reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--D4VE- Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, WolfTitan said: Quote clans are requesting plat to join If it's not banned then it's allowed. I'm not saying that I like that kind of thing but no one is forbidding them from it. It would be WAY worse if it wouldn't be tradeable. Quote and players are shelling out plat to people in prestigious clans for the weapon It's their own choice what they will do with THEIR plat. If they want to pay - let them. It's free market afterall Quote Gorgon Wraith has not returned in years since its introduction in an event. isn't that THE ONLY weapon that didn't return? Like for real you use that example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Vortus_ Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, Tsukinoki said: And how was anyone "screwed over" by making it able to be traded? Serious question there. Even if it was possible to trade it people would do just what they did with the Hema: invite people for them to replicate the research and then drop it. Often times for free. Making it tradable doesn't screw anyone over. In fact it allows people who missed the event, or new players, to get the weapon. Looking at it, making it non-tradable would have screwed over more people... If you think that it screws people over in being able to attract new members I don't see why it would. Its still a selling point for the clans "We got the Ignis Wraith BP research" which still shows your clan got in the top 10%. DE is, let be kind, though I am no longer sure why I am going to be kind to them, and say they lack in providing detailed information on how things work. New players are particularly susceptible to unscrupulous players sales methods. Now, in the past, Wraith weapons were earned through events, sorties and now invasions. One part or weapon at a time. Now however, a limited group can purchase blueprints wholesale for credits and trade them. Its not that they are trade-able that I really have an issue with. Its that a group has access to a virtually unlimited supply of what was previously a very limited product. An unlimited supply that costs them virtually nothing. And yes, I am aware that the prices will drop. However, the initial feeding frenzy, no different than when a new prime comes out before players learn better about the availability of new items. I don't even blame the players, well, not as much that have likely already screwed over other players selling the bp. This is all on DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMaverick Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, _Vortus_ said: Now however, a limited group can purchase blueprints wholesale for credits and trade them. Its not that they are trade-able that I really have an issue with. Its that a group has access to a virtually unlimited supply of what was previously a very limited product. An unlimited supply that costs them virtually nothing. And yes, I am aware that the prices will drop. However, the initial feeding frenzy, no different than when a new prime comes out before players learn better about the availability of new items. What feeding frenzy? Any current player who wanted an Ignis Wraith had the chance to get one easily during the event. There is no mass of hungry customers waiting outside dojo doors for the sales to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeclem Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ChuckMaverick said: What feeding frenzy? Any current player who wanted an Ignis Wraith had the chance to get one easily during the event. There is no mass of hungry customers waiting outside dojo doors for the sales to begin. ssssshhh dont try use logic against salt its not fun that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaqlaxy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 hours ago, .Fire_Fly. said: that is a horrible thought and a real selfish one. prova and wraith weapons can all be traded it it not broken. prova... you mean vandal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 it's tradeable, and it will always be tradeable. let it go guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Having it tradeable kinda makes no sense, what was point of it all if now you can just buy 20 of them for next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagamilight123 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Jangkrik said: So let's list the pros and cons of making it tradeable. Pros: - Give some people the ability to sell the bp for plats (not that it sells a lot anyway) - Give everyone the chance to get it - Does not remove bragging rights from the top 10% clans - Fairness for everyone Cons: - Elitists lose their bragging rights - People can't turn clans into profit engines - Can't seem to think of any Let me help you with cons . -People giving crap about doing the future events because they gona have the reward anyway . -People becoming even more entittled to get all for free and without any effort . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jangkrik Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Yagamilight123 said: Let me help you with cons . -People giving crap about doing the future events because they gona have the reward anyway . -People becoming even more entittled to get all for free and without any effort . 1. Really? Not all future events are going to be clan events. Also, there would be no guarantee that the events will give tradeable rewards. Not only that, but it's also illogical to assume that people won't be doing the event just because they can one of the rewards for free (which is a rarity since most events have at least 2 rewards). Had they not done this current event because the Ignis BP is tradeable, they wouldn't get the other rewards such as the Wraith armors. 2. That's not free, you have to trade it. Also, it doesn't matter much anyway as getting event items are already cake walks because no event are that hard unless you aim for leaderboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, Yagamilight123 said: -People becoming even more entittled to get all for free and without any effort . Yea, this one seems to be getting out of control on forums lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oshunter124 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Its intended. Has been since the start of the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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