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How will the Tenno win the revived old war when we struggled just to push them back?


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The Tenno never truly won the old war, they just managed to drive the sentients back and block them out of the solar system by destroying the outer terminal. Which that war even had the Orokin flipping their lids in stress, which is saying something. How can we finally put an end to the old war and completely obliterate hunhow?

What have the tenno honestly learned from the old war to help them finally put an end to it? If anything we've lost more info about the old war and ourselves, kind of seems like it will go worse this time around than the first time. There is only 1 codex entry that talks about a battle during the old war with mag. 

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True that, I only have two things to add.

1. Correct me if I'm wrong but now we can run as the operators themselves since The War Within, Teshin implied that Margulis was blocking that with her implants or something.

2. There's also a lil bit about the Old war on Chroma and Mirage questlines.

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Remembering hunhow is a singular character, possibly having other sentient beings as large as him not to mention to complete solar system possible/highly likely to be terraformed and colonized by sentients in w/e form they adapted to.

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8 minutes ago, FoxyKabam said:

we have clem this time

 

wars already won

And John Prodman.

Those two will join forces in this incoming Sentient War. Hunhow better have his "have mercy on me" speach ready.

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I'd say the Tenno back then probably weren't all to motivated to go and kill them off. If there was, say, a buff to the drop chances on War Pieces and Vengeful Revenant, we'd probably be hunting them down, all the way back to Tau.

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Tenno are scattered all over the universe, and we're recovering new ones from cryopods every day. We're finding new weapons, rediscovering old tricks (Focus, operator mode...) and we're making allies with groups like the Steel Meridian and Maroo.

The Sentient has made his own allies as well, most notably the Stalker and his Acolytes. Based on the fact that Sentients attempt to leave when low on health, and the fact that they all have the same blue light, it seems like Hunhow has a finite amount of energy to draw on. Creating new Batalysts and other minions draws on this resource, and when it's gone, it's gone. We'll have to get some more lore to see if this theory is true of course.

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I would have to say if the war was renewed it would end up the same as last time.

It would come to a draw where neither side could win and their subterfuge wouldn't work this time as we have the Lotus on our side, and being a Sentient herself would recognize any attempted infiltration.

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Good question. 

The old War was never won. It was ended in a plan with the sole purpose of wiping Orokin Empire and Tenno out.

That would have worked if Natah had not betrayed her race and hidden the Operators in the Void. 

I say the Tenno,  via their warframes, destroyed something or took something in Tau. Read Mags story and you see it was their last hope.

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What's different now then? Teshin broke our chains and let us access the true void powers again. In the war,  the Demon was asleep. Now it is free.

The Tenno are allso free (at least more so) and we can make two qualified guesses.

1. The Operators will gain power and not be so dependant on warframes.  More like jedi or mages.

2. Umbra. Umbra might be the thing to give us an edge, because the Sentients are much too dangerous to us right now.

 

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It will be won with a quest line ending in a jumping puzzle, where Operator moves must be combined correctly with Lunaros throws to place a Guffin of Mac in the boss of Sentients.

Then we get a new blueprint with parts requiring farming Conclave for half a year to complete.

War is over. Time for tea.

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Remember how in Starcraft 2 all races came together putting their differences aside to fight a common enemy?

 

Yeeeah... DE has proven that they're not particularly creative lore wise. Chances are everyone will join together in a desperate attempt to defeat the sentient blah blah blah etc etc, something magical happens, you are the chosen one, the sentient go to sleep or become your friends or, if we're lucky, are wiped out.

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26 minutes ago, Heatnix. said:

Remember how in Starcraft 2 all races came together putting their differences aside to fight a common enemy?

 

Yeeeah... DE has proven that they're not particularly creative lore wise. Chances are everyone will join together in a desperate attempt to defeat the sentient blah blah blah etc etc, something magical happens, you are the chosen one, the sentient go to sleep or become your friends or, if we're lucky, are wiped out.

Is it a crime not to be 100% Unique though?  Personally as long as the story is told in a intriguing manner then what's the issue?

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With lot's of explosions and Operator Void powers. And cheese (if Octavia will not be nerfed just send her in and watch them hitting themselves). Hopefully some good story will be involved.

36 minutes ago, Heatnix. said:

Yeeeah... DE has proven that they're not particularly creative lore wise. Chances are everyone will join together in a desperate attempt to defeat the sentient blah blah blah etc etc, something magical happens, you are the chosen one, the sentient go to sleep or become your friends or, if we're lucky, are wiped out.

Are you talking about DE or Bioware? As for being creative - tropes are not bad, if they are used wisely.

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5 hours ago, kyori said:

The sentients are supposed to be terraforming drones sent by orokin last time ya? But they don't look anything robotic to be drones. More like clones of some alien rather than drone

From what I remember, they were machines made with (what seems to me) some sort of nanomachine gel that could replicate themselves and adapt to whatever was around them.  Yeah, they look alien to us, but that's from multiple generations of the machines as they traveled to the Tau system, colonized it, and then came back, overcoming and adapting to various hardships along the way.  Here's an excerpt from the detron crewman synthesis entry:

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The chamber doors opened and a mass of guards entered, guns trained inward. As they reached the center, they parted, revealing a small cart. Atop the cart was a motionless creature, no larger than a hand. Its body was symmetrical, star-shaped with a seamless, matte-black shell.

A new projection, that of Executor Tuvul ballooned into the space, “It looks harmless.”

“Harmless?” Ballas boomed in Tuvul’s direction. He turned to the center of the dome, “Show them.”

On command, the guards backed away from the cart and readied their weapons. Their leader took careful aim and fired a whisper round into the body of my creation. Two of the limbs tore off the frame revealing a glossy, gelatinous interior.

Silence gripped the dome as Tuvul shook his head. Then suddenly, the creature moved, convulsed, the hard surface started undulating. In a moment the wound closed and the thing was whole again. Beside it another machine had grown from its severed parts. Their surfaces had changed however - brighter, harder, resilient to whisper rounds now.

 

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