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Dear DE,

Please move Harrow Systems to a solo'able mission type!

Currently Harrow Systems is only available at 1 of three Defection mission types, forcing you to rely on other people that do not know what they are doing. Please move this to Literally Any Other Mission Type! I am tired of doing missions where I am forced to rely on random players that do not under stand the mechanics of the mission, do not ask what they need to do, or care to listen to advice!  Please For The Love of GOD Move Harrow Systems!

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2 minutes ago, Wildcardgsx said:

Nice to know people read atleast the first line of a paragraph before throwing in their 2cents,

Defections are solo'able, it just takes more effort, time and a good CC set up.

i.e., Slow Nova and specters, Bastile Vauban and specters, etc. And you can toss in Pherilac Pods to help with the CC.

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Oberon's Renewal heals the dudes, an Efficiency build and decent weaponry will turn any Defection into a mission doable on autopilot.  You do not need to rely on any other players, post-rework Renewal was practically made to trivialize this mission.  Without any sort of heal, that mission turns into a frantic mess that would be very fun and a welcome challenge if it didn't feel so much like work.

About your claim that Harrow Systems only drop from one of the three Defection missions, I'm gonna need to see a citation on that.

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I have solo'd for Harrow systems multiple times, just to see if I could. I can assure you, it's more than doable.

It's not hard. You need to focus less on killing everything and more on CC-ing them. Oberon actually does this perfectly, without the need for health stations OR other people. He has excellent CC against infested with Hallowed Ground, while Renewal both serves the purpose of healing AND giving the Defectors armor for some damage resistance when an enemy hits them.

Many people here could provide some finer tips and tricks if you'd like, as well. 

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harrow's systems can be found at all three defection missions, though the lowest-levelled one has a reduced drop chance (caracol and yursa's drop rates are identical for the harrow part).

You can solo these defection missions quite easily, with a number of frames. I use oberon personally, but limbo, trinity, and inaros can all heal the kavor defectors. Additionally, kavor defectors need not be healed by abilities, as healing towers exist at regular intervals on the way, meaning CC abilities, high-damage abilities, or even moderately skilled gunplay can keep the defectors safe. You have a lot of options to solo defection easily, up to the first rotation C anyways.

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1 hour ago, Wildcardgsx said:

Dear DE,

Please move Harrow Systems to a solo'able mission type!

Currently Harrow Systems is only available at 1 of three Defection mission types, forcing you to rely on other people that do not know what they are doing. Please move this to Literally Any Other Mission Type! I am tired of doing missions where I am forced to rely on random players that do not under stand the mechanics of the mission, do not ask what they need to do, or care to listen to advice!  Please For The Love of GOD Move Harrow Systems!

Except... 

Defection missions are easier to do solo than in a group, as less enemies spawn and hostages aren't started by someone who's not good enough to escort them to A. 

Harrow Systems are available from ALL the defection missions. 

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I can understand the feeling but Defection can be done solo as others have suggested. I would second Oberon now that his Renewal can effect npc (unlike before) but any warframe you can use to defend or heal allies should be beneficial. If you don't like having random players, simply turn the matchmaking to private or friends only; that way you can invite friends or trusted allies but not have other players you might not be able to rely on.

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I think all missions (not counting raid mission) in warframe is solo able with the right loadout.

As for getting group with random people in public its understanable if u got paired up with player that do not understand the mission, maybe new people who first try deffection mission, language barrier, etc. Since well it is public.

Try recuirting chat and search for those who also looking for the part. Ask friends, clan mates to accompany u is always better than play with random.

And just for tips do the Saturn one since phobos the deffector often stuck in pipe tunnel. Got mine solo after 3 trial of 16 group deffection escape.

 

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In solo mode:

  • Each rescue squad is made up of 3 Kavors instead of 4-5
  • Each life support  charge adds 40% health to the tower, in co-op mode this is 20% instead. So less pickups are needed.
  • The squads will always spawn one at a time, so no need to multitask.

So a solo player is less burdened than in co-op mode. Sure, progress is slower but the same can be said about Excavation and Spy for example. It is to be expected that certain game modes are more efficient playing with others, provided if all players are skilled and often this will not be the case in pub games.

Trinity,Oberon and Nezha have healing skills. And Limbo can banish them making the enemy a non-issue for the Kavors. Ash and Nezha have augments that can also protect the Kavors. (Smoke Bomb, Warding Halo).
But these are just methods to make it a lot easier, but the reality is this game mode can be done with any frame. The key is to kill the infested faster than they can swarm the Kavors, so you need to have strong well-modded weapons and/or use frames with CC abilities.

The Kavors aren't exactly pushovers either, their weapons do good damage against the infested. The player only needs to prioritize Ancient Healers and Mutalist Ospreys and take those out immediately as they appear.

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Just now, Faulcun said:

ah you are totally correct.... I wasnt thinking about phobos because statistically it wasnt worth it so i put it out of my mind.

Yeah, after I looked up the drop rates, I totally understand.  With it being 7.52%, it's not really worth even trying on Phobos.

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Are you launching straight into a mission and getting grouped up with randoms randomly?

Cos if you are it might be better off starting in recruiting chat and putting a squad together. Can always have a chat with the squad before launching mission and seeing what's what with the squad you've got.

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On 16/08/2017 at 1:55 AM, lukinu_u said:

Why would you farm a support frame to play solo ? :0

Because sometimes our friends aren't on or can't eb bothered to grind for his systems in which you receive the systems AFTER 20 MINS with an 11.28%drop chance on the higher difficulty ones. Tell me that doesn't sound annoying. And the infestation is already bloody annoying with its energy sapping units

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On 16/08/2017 at 2:19 AM, MagPrime said:

Actually, it drops for all 3 Defection missions. 

Per DE's drop table, it has a 11.26% at Saturn and Neptune, while Phobos is 7.52%

That is one of the worst drop chances ever for a mission that takes 20 mins for a chance. A CHANCE of it dropping which is absolutely stupid. Just based on the difficulty of the mission and the time that is required it should be a 20% drop chance

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