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Since warframe is going open world, what if we add vehicles?


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We'll only see ground vehicles in the form of something we can hijack from the Grineer and Corpus.  Tanks, troop transports, etc.  As much as I'd love to take on a Grineer tank or Corpus mech/jackal in the field, however, I suspect DE will keep combat to infantry brought in via drop pod and gunships while supported by the occasional air-to-ground fighter.

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If it would be a really fast speeder bike, i would use it instead of AW just to save on resources i would have to spend on beacons.

Why even AW is tied to a resource sink is beyond me, DE takes a step giving an incentive to use Archwing...takes two steps back making it unused again and detrimental. :thinking:

It's almost like AW is meant to succ, the only endless AW mission type is Interception which is probably one of the most painful, drawn out game mode especially if you play it with a Pug team where capping takes an eternity and all your teammates are just flying around cluelessly like in normal Intercept, Worst game mode ever.

Archwing needs something like Excavations in the asteroid fields or an escort type mission, or just any defense objective with a hp bar scaling with enemy levels, or better yet Archwing Survival.

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I'm really looking forward to flying around with an Archwing. I hope the engine and my comp will cope with a full-speed hyperion-thrusted flight.

Some sort of transportation for those who haven't got an Archwing yet would be nice too.

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7 hours ago, Nakrast said:

Doubt they will waste any resources on this, Archwing is simply better, more fun, and also more versatile.

Imma say no to Archwing. DE worked hard making plains. I'll take my sweet time exploring on foot. Speed running the plains would only bore be in the first week of it's release. 

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Since Warframe is going open world, what if we add vehicles mounts?

FTFY

Seriously, why ride around on some generic four wheeled vehicle or hover bike when we can ride some Orokin era horse embedded with magical void powers that can assist us in battle, or mount some Moa made to be ridden. Plus it matches the traditional themeing of Warframes well.

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We also already have a flying "mount". No one uses ground mounts once they get a flying one. Especially when the flying mount can shoot and has abilities of its own. One exception is when the mount can go seamlessly from one to the other which I doubt will happen with archwing.

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38 minutes ago, PrVonTuckIII said:

 What makes you say that? I'm fairly certain that normal-gameplay insertion was something that everyone wanted from Archwing. 

I have nothing against Archwing. I wish it were practical.

And that's my point, it won't. Abusing momentum is an exploit that goes all the way back to quake, maybe further back. Nowadays everybody pretends this is a feature because they gotta go faster, but stacking up speed on any game kills the point of having vehicles to cross distance.

The irony is that... yeah, my statement is not correct, people will use Archwings... but not to cover distance, it'll be instead for the abilities - Warframe abilities are not persistent after Archwing transition, but some stationery Archwing abilities are persistent in Warframe mode. I can actually picture people covering distances on the bulletjump-doublejump-rolll-glide, switching to Archwing, cast an ability and switching back to Warframe, before combo-jumping all the way to the next Grineer camp rinse and repeat.

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I personally support both vehicles and "mounts"(some kind of genetically engineered 'animals') and I am saying it as person who has high hopes for archwing and wants see more of it, to people who say that its meaningless since we have faster options of traveling like speed abilities and archwing then I am sorry to say it but PoE is not for you, it will get boring for you very fast since map doesnt change so it will get "old" for you very fast. 

Gameplay is more then just traveling from point A to B as fast as possible, to quote  guy from another thread who I really respect:

On 24.09.2017 at 9:30 PM, A-p-o-l-l-y-o-n said:

And to address this issue of speed: it's not at all about speed. It's about having fun, and if you have diverse options, then you can have fun for longer because you can always change up your experience to keep it fresh. Too many people here only care about speed. Gameplay is about more than just speed. If you're only concerned with speed, maybe Plains of Eidolon isn't for you, because part of the appeal of open world is enjoying the immersion of the world. If you're just trying to get through it as fast as possible, then how can you actually enjoy the Plains? That's something I fault DE for. They should encourage players to take their time so that they can actually enjoy the gameplay and the assets DE creates instead of just rushing through it, only caring about rewards.

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6 minutes ago, SilverRook said:

i think you would need to remove AW to introduce vehicles.
An AW would just tear thro "buggys".

seems a step backwards to me.

there are games that have both air and land vehices just fine and each has their own roles, MGSV and Ghost Recon Wildlands have these things as well (well, no abilities for either and no mounts for GRW), and it works fine. Helicopters are faster than ground vehicles, but you have a variety of ground vehicle options that you can choose, especially since the harder areas of the map are filled with enemy SAM (surface-to-air-missiles) sites that can easily down a helicopter or plane.

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17 hours ago, Duduminador said:

Momentum is far too broken to be any less practical than a vehicle.

Let's be honest, people won't even use Archwing at all...

Considering how squishy the Archwings are in PoE, people really won't use them much.

I want non-archwing vehicles because I want more gameplay options. Just having one mode of transportation will get very boring. I want diverse gameplay that can continually feel fresh. You can't do that with only one means of traveling around. There's nothing ridiculous about having ground vehicles. They're a different means of transportation that wouldn't post the same risks that archwings would. They could be more durable because you wouldn't be able to fight with them, unlike the Archwings. And so, because they don't provide a greater combat advantage, they would fit as a choice: either go with your archwing, which offers a combat advantage in its flight ability and its powers but is squishy, or go with a ground vehicle, which offers no combat advantage but is much more durable.

13 hours ago, Skrewyluie said:

It's hard to say that this is a dumb idea when no less than a year ago the thought of open world warframe was laughable.

These same people were probably criticizing the mere suggestion of adding an open world to Warframe. It's the way this community unfortunately works. If there's a feature that is in some other game and isn't in Warframe, a lot of people's first reaction is to criticize it and to say it's completely unnecessary and inappropriate for Warframe. They bashed players asking for open world for years. Now they're doing the same to people who want more vehicle options. In fact, any time someone suggests expanding the scope and scale of Warframe's gameplay, these people start bashing the idea, until DE themselves announce the addition of that suggested feature.

13 hours ago, mstriker said:

It wont really fit with the theme of the game right now.

 

We already have archwing and they need some love, they also are a more fun better and faster way to travel that any buggie or normal vehicle.

 

Think about it, why use a buggie when you can just fly around and nuke enemies from avobe

If you can't see the benefit and fun potential of having more than one type of vehicle in the game, then I suspect that you have never played an open world game with vehicles or multiple travel options. If you haven't played a game with multiple travel options, then you're in no position to say that archwing would be more fun or better than using "normal" vehicles.

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37 minutes ago, GreyEnneract said:

You'll have to wait for the Corpus open world on Venus.
Image result for corpus mechImage result for corpus mech

Now that you showed this, I believe you are right that it was made for landscapes, this was first hint that DE is working on landscapes that we missed.

Also I know that people will want to crucify me for mentioning this game but destiny 2 has other vehicles then  "jet-bike", only in specific missions but still(I never played any destiny game but saw video's from them)

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