(PSN)OvalNova Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'm just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)abbacephas Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Because it is not PvP-centric, which is a very very very good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 PVE crowds vs PVP crowds. Completely different beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 My guess? It's co-op, skill doesn't really matter, PvP is a running gag (thank god Lotus), and there isn't a ton of advertisements for the game. As for games like Fortnite (at least the free Battle Royal thing) has: Advertisements, needs some amount of skill, it's PvP, and it's similar to games like PUBG, which means it's doomed to get the attention of toxic special snowflakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miraluka Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Warframe, since it was created, has been more focused on players helping others rather than trying to be the last one standing in some cartoony battle royale. We do have the conclave but it is a very small group out of the Warframe community that prefers that. We tend to help new players to get where they want to be instead of treating them like fresh meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXCrusnik Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Edited April 28, 2018 by AXCrusnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadra Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 PvP breeds toxicity. It always does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gharsan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Lanadra said: PvP breeds toxicity. It always does. From what I've heard, the toxicity was real even in WF when there were raids and rail conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupcakesMoo Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 PVP and fortnite is for dudebros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnar21 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Few things going on. Lack of real PVP should reduce toxicity. PVE being (1) team based and (2) not requiring communication between team members for most content helps to reduce toxicity as well. But imo, the big reason toxicity is low, is because the game in its current state requires you to rely on others to learn game mechanics. Things like where to find critical mods, how different powers work an interact, where to find new warframes, how to get platinum, all of these require others to inform you, particularly if you don't know about the wiki. With all this going on, new players typically respect veterans, and typically, veterans like to help newcomers. This might not be the case always, but you're far less likely to be toxic to people you feel are helping you altruistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusGraves Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 It really is because the game is PvE centric, PvP crowds are mostly douchebags that wanna show in some way why they're better than you and rub it in your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Because we mostly direct our anger and murderous intents on enemies not each other. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahx11 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 You clearly haven't made a post on the forums just to make a suggestion. That's where you find all the toxic people. oh... and the reddit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokednin Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Because Space Mom taught us well of course! ...and yeah PVP vs PVE thing too probably I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyori Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Ya PvE... yet people's ego are still hurt like in PvP games and always call for nerfs. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)OvalNova Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 But from what I've seen, the Conclave community is actually pretty stable. The people S#&$ on conclave however... It may be that not many people actually play Conclave or i'm just $&*&*#(%&ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Relatively non-toxic with regards to player/player interaction. Extremely toxic in the player/dev interactions. The idea that this community is some perfect, shiny, bastion of goodwill is a total lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 My guess is that it's because Warframe is far less PvP focused (and far more PvE focused). PvP focused games breed competition, sometimes to the point of fostering toxicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)BigLithuanian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Letter13 said: My guess is that it's because Warframe is far less PvP focused (and far more PvE focused). PvP focused games breed competition, sometimes to the point of fostering toxicity. Yep. Its why I like PvE centric games more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanille Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 PvP, or competition for that matter, causes frustration. No one likes to lose. It gets worse if your ways to win rely on other players in your team when you're doing good, or doing your best but someone else is slacking and holding you back because it's not carriable. Warframe not only is a PvE game, but a game that allows players to do everything on their own. Having more players in your squad only brings benefits to you, and if they slack, fail, fall behind, don't have enough power or whatever, it doesn't hinder you or hold you back because you can still complete everything yourself. It doesn't frustrate players as other players playstyle doesn't affect yours and there is no competition, your ability to win doesn't rely on others. At the end of the day, you're just enjoying the game doing it ont he playstyle you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitchrea Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'd say it's because the game's lack of good tutorials almost necessitate more experienced players to help the new ones. It's a co-op thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupisV0lk Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 PvE and PvP games breed different types of toxicity. Just look at Elite: Dangerous. The PvPers might gank you if the mechanics allow it. The PvErs? They'll dox players if they engage them in PvP and will exploit the tragedy of others to wish worse towards PvPers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)IroncladBomber Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 PvE, there is some Salt and Toxic stuff in Warframe. But since the game is PvE most of it is light. Unlike PvP games which can be Extremely Toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 The less competition there is, the less fertile ground elitism and all those fun symptoms have to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupisV0lk Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, AuroraSonicBoom said: The less competition there is, the less fertile ground elitism and all those fun symptoms have to grow. Lol, have you seen this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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