Kaotyke Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 4 hours ago, tprx said: Yet, we can get rid of unwanted Kubrows puppies... You are comparing sending pets to a shelter to selling a thinking being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 because DE doesnt care about your edginess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koldraxon-732 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 4 hours ago, TGDM said: So what you're saying is we could rebuild it if we wanted to? Yes, but he wouldn't howl or be self-aware like the one we resurrected. You probably(?) missed the other important elements which help explain why Umbra actual, by comparsion to any Warframe we built from mere blueprints and files, remembers things. In effect, 3D-printed replicas that don't include actual original parts have 0% memory; he would be the same as Umbra Prime from Chinaframe. Here's an example to help make sense of all this. Let's say you manage to kill the Stalker and tear him into a few pieces, and take those dead pieces to your Orbiter after scanning them so Ordis can compile him back together again. You rebuild him and he gets out of the Arsenal and... Get the concept now? Only reason Umbra is a living, sapient 'best of the Dax(citation needed)' or 'Master Dax' who remembers is because we took what was left of him and pieced him back together, with help from Ordis to synthesize the rest of the missing body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cghawk Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 better question why would you sell it? any reason outside random curiosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TertulSee Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 You’re telling me you want to sell a Living, Sentient, and Thinking Being for credits? Someone arrest this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Simple, because they don't want to have support dealing with the onslaught of a bazillion support tickets when Umbra actually becomes useful in either another quest line or when the Sentient content finally hits. Which based on the release implications of Umbra should be Soon™ Edited June 25, 2018 by Oreades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--Ascended-Seraphim Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Wevi said: As far as i'm aware we have always been able to sell warframes for credits, even excal prime. Does this mean umbra will be a vital roll in the future and will we be stuck with just an excal version? would have been nice if we were able to pick what frames we wanted to be umbra, from the starter selection (that includes loki). He'll probably breakout from the arsenal and undertaker choke slam you like in the cut scene if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Temp0- Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 11 часов назад, (PS4)godlysparta сказал: You’re telling me you want to sell a Living, Sentient, and Thinking Being for credits? Someone arrest this guy. I mean if that's not sentient idk what that is. What's the difference in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelshark Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 25k credits is 25k credits right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TertulSee Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, -Temp0- said: I mean if that's not sentient idk what that is. What's the difference in the end? Sentience means that it’s capable of making decisions and having morality. It can feel sadness and emotion. It is aware of what you’re doing. Basically, it’s means Umbra is like a human. You’re selling a creature that understands that it is being sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 honestly it's probably there to prevent idiots from selling one-time quest rewards gives support more time to address other things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Temp0- Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 минуты назад, (PS4)godlysparta сказал: Sentience means that it’s capable of making decisions and having morality. It can feel sadness and emotion. It is aware of what you’re doing. Basically, it’s means Umbra is like a human. You’re selling a creature that understands that it is being sold. Yeaaah well that decision to pull the giant a** sword through his chest killing himself in a process in order to save you should be enough to not want to sell any warframe for credits if you care about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I was going to sell mine then decided to keep because its uniqueness and now i see i couldn't have gotten rid of it if i tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabreracer Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, TotallyLagging said: honestly it's probably there to prevent idiots from selling one-time quest rewards gives support more time to address other things ^^^ This ^^^ There are threads all the time "I sold [insert Quest frame] and now want it back but don't want to buy it with Plat how do I get it again?" Usual answer being call support but if it too long you're out of luck So this stops that happening and you didn't have to buy a slot so no loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowStalker Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) lol did you really need to make a thread regarding such a simple question that you could have answered in 10 seconds yourself? its to prevent people from selling umbra then asking DE to add it back to thier accounts lol also Spoilers-umbra has its on sentience so lore wise you cant just kick him out lmao Edited June 25, 2018 by ShadowStalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 12 hours ago, --Q--Ascended-Seraphim said: He'll probably breakout from the arsenal and undertaker choke slam you like in the cut scene if you tried. Now that would have been an entertaining easteregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I want to sell him because I cant remove the stupid scarf, I don't like scarfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadra Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 It's pretty much nipping a problem in the bud before it becomes a big one. Namely, people accidentally selling Umbra and then complaining that DE didn't do anything to prevent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I've also noticed I can't sell Lotus, the Orbiter, or my UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genclaymore Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 2018-06-24 at 12:14 PM, Dahx11 said: Because he has a mind of it's own... How would you feel if someone sold you for credits?? What worst is, since he has an mind of his own, the op would be looking over his shoulder forever afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beartornado Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 2018-06-24 at 11:01 AM, -Temp0- said: Screaming dad Umbra is now Screaming Dad thank you for your contribution. Teshin - Space Dad MITW - Ghost Dad Umbra - Screaming Dad Ordis - Digital Dad Helminth - Infested Dad The vital pentatonic has been assembled, The tau system can't possibly stop a Tenno with 5 dads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zavenosk Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Umbra (and nikana) can't be bought from the market. If they were sold, they would become completely unobtainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpunter Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Selling Umbra would be like selling a person. It is out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ5511 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I wonder who exactly you sell these frames to, it's not like credits can just appear out of things air, and your frame disappears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnderboss Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 #1 why would you even want to #2 because he could be used in future quests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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