[DE]Connor Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Hail Tenno! With the excitement surrounding Fortuna, it’s been awhile since we’ve talked about Riven mods - Cephalon Samodeus’ creations can turn the game’s balance on its head, transforming almost any weapon into a uniquely vicious powerhouse. Since not all weapons are created equal, “Riven Disposition” was introduced as a sort of counterbalance, ensuring that weaker weapons get stronger Rivens and vice versa. Some effort has gone into maintaining Dispositions as new weapons and Primes are introduced, but because of Warframe’s ever-evolving status as a living game, some Dispositions are not an accurate reflection of their weapon’s popularity and power. As you explore the Orb Vallis, you may notice your Rivened weapons performing differently than usual - this is because we have tweaked Dispositions across the board, to better uphold the delicate balance of power that Rivens represent. Releasing these changes without warning is our way of discouraging market exploitation, which may have occurred if some players knew change was coming, while players who didn’t visit the Forums would be unaware. We understand Riven Disposition is a touchy subject, since many players have accumulated vast and valuable Riven collections. To help keep market fluctuation under control, we followed a few simple rules: No Disposition has changed by more than one “pip” in the Arsenal. (For those knowledgeable about how Rivens work in code, no Disposition will change by more than +/-0.2) Dispositions are based roughly on the weapon’s usage among mid-to-endgame Warframe players, with handmade tweaks where appropriate. If usage stats show that a number should be changed only slightly, we didn’t change it at all - about 40% of all gun Dispositions have gone untouched. As of posting this Workshop, all players who own Rivens have received an in-game message warning them of changes. Buyers beware! Changes will be rolled out to all platforms as quickly as possible, to further prevent market exploitation. Melee Rivens have NOT been changed yet; those tweaks will come along with weapon rebalancing in Melee 3.0. Based on these parameters, here is the complete list of changes we have made: Spoiler PRIMARIES: Amprex: 0.96->0.85 Argonak: 1.0->1.1 Braton: 0.96->1.01 Burston: 1.18->1.25 Buzlok: 1.55->1.45 Cernos: 0.86->0.92 Dread: 0.82->0.9 Ferrox: 1.0->1.1 Grakata: 1.1->1.15 Hema: 1.0-> 1.1 Ignis: 0.79->0.7 Javlok: 1.0->1.1 Lanka: 1.1->0.95 Latron: 1.07->1.15 Miter: 1.6->1.55 Mutalist Cernos: 1.21->1.26 Opticor: 1.21->1.15 Panthera: 1.55->1.5 Paris: 0.96->1.05 Penta: 1.18->1.25 Quanta: 0.9->1.0 Quartakk: 1.2->1.25 Rubico: 1.1->0.95 Scourge: 1.0->1.1 Simulor: 0.5->0.7 Soma: 0.5->0.55 Stradavar: 1.18->1.25 Supra: 1.14->1.0 Tenora: 1.0->1.05 Tiberon: 1.5->1.3 Tonkor: 0.55->0.75 Torid: 1.14->1.2 Vectis: 1.0->0.92 Veldt: 1.0->1.1 Zarr: 1.0->1.08 Zenith: 1.0->1.1 Zhuge: 1.1->1.18 SHOTGUNS: Arca Plasmor: 0.9->0.7 Astilla: 1.2->1.1 Corinth: 1.0->1.05 Hek: 0.55->0.7 Strun: 1.42->1.35 SECONDARIES: Akbolto: 0.85-> 0.8 Aklex: 1.0->0.92 Aksomati: 1.26->1.2 Akvasto: 1.24->1.3 Atomos: 0.87->0.8 Azima: 1.35->1.25 Ballistica: 0.85->0.95 Brakk: 0.75->0.95 Bronco: 1.2->1.3 Castanas: 1.42->1.35 Cycron: 1.0->1.1 Despair: 1.24->1.3 Dual Cestra: 1.35->1.3 Dual Toxocyst: 1.19->1.25 Euphona Prime: 0.75->0.7 Fusilai: 1.2->1.3 Gammacor: 0.53->0.65 Hikou: 0.69->0.75 Hystrix: 1.0->1.05 Knell: 1.0->1.15 Kohmak: 1.2->1.3 Kulstar: 1.1->1.2 Lato: 1.51->1.4 Marelok: 0.5->0.65 Pandero: 1.0->0.95 Pox: 0.82->0.95 Pyrana: 1.2->1.0 Sicarus: 1.5->1.3 Sonicor: 0.5->0.65 Spira: 0.66->0.85 Twin Grakatas: 0.76->0.85 Twin Gremlins: 1.5->1.4 Twin Kohmak: 1.1->1.2 Twin Rogga: 1.0->1.15 Vasto: 1.53->1.4 Viper: 1.53->1.45 Zakti: 1.0->1.1 On another relevant note separate from these Disposition changes, we have removed Sentinel weapons from the Riven generation pool. Those that own Sentinel weapon Rivens will still own them in their Inventories. Unveiling a Sentinel weapon Riven was simply lackluster compared to more applicable weapons. We hope that these changes help bring us closer to the original intention of Riven Mods, reinvigorating weapon diversity at a high level. We will continue listening to player thoughts regarding Dispositions, in hopes of better maintaining this system in the future. Thanks for reading Tenno, and see you on Venus! EDIT: Wanted to clear up one comment I'm seeing lots of. Many of you have mentioned the Kohm as well as Detron - These weapons were marked for a reduction, but we opted not to change them, because some players depend on these Rivens to achieve 100% status chance. Because of this, small disposition changes had the chance to make a much larger impact on these weapons, so we have left them as is. EDIT 2: Thanks to everyone who left their constructive feedback. In response to your suggestions, I wanted to share two plans we have going forward: 1. We are looking into ways for players to intentionally acquire Rivens for their robotic companions' weapons. They will remain outside the Riven generation pool, as previously stated. 2. We will be revisiting Riven dispositions periodically, using the same rules laid out above, to further uphold our stated intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Why remove sentinel weapon Riven Mods? Artax Riven mods are over 20k on PC. All of these seem like very small increments. Does that mean more changes are to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 well Simulor still seems kind of weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesplex Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TONI__RIBEIRO Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Marthaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllumiMahdi Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I had an idea that disposition you have right now wouldn't change, but when you go and trade the riven the stats would get nerfed. This makes it so new rivens are under the new changes, but the ones you have personally are subject to no change. It's a good way of keeping players happy imo, you aren't nerfing their builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00B731O Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, [DE]Connor said: On another relevant note separate from these Disposition changes, we have removed Sentinel weapons from the Riven generation pool. Those that own Sentinel weapon Rivens will still own them in their Inventories. Unveiling a Sentinel weapon Riven was simply lackluster compared to more applicable weapons. So will we be able to get Sentinel Rivens eventually through some other means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Bad changes, good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technomole Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jeffed10 said: So will we be able to get Sentinel Rivens eventually through some other means? I'd hope so or the prices will skyrocket. Interested to see the answer to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)kidvette2004 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 does this affect existing riven mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine_Intellect Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 y u touch opticor :((((((((((((( I legit nevrer see anyone use opticor man. c'mon cuhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Kohm nerfs would be a burn jita situation tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 And why is Lanka not dispo 1?? the most used weapon in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullSupport Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, Arrcee said: I'd hope so or the prices will skyrocket. Interested to see the answer to this. Experience says they won't be available for a while, buy them ASAP if you care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildrider123 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Good to see these changes finally are in. So many people lost sight in what rivens were meant for and simply turned it into another way to make their meta weapons even more meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edzhang Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 my twin rogga become more powerful than it is? and thx for removing those sentinel weapon.. i cant count how many times i got those things and dissolved them a second later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwqrf Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Awesome ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asdryu Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Most of these changes don't make no sense. Rubico: nothing relevant and everyone uses it like no tomorrow. Tonkor, Spira, Dread, Hek- WHO USES THEM? Vectis got nerfed too: ok whatever. I got it. This is random <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrosiris Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 So every gun I actually enjoy using took a dispo nerf. Neato. Crappy guns having great rivens doesn't make me want to use the crappy guns. Disposition is a dumb idea - it should be pinned roughly at the ~3 pip middle ground and left alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Some odd changes, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dabi Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Great changes. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makunogo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 the changes are overall not nearly as bad as people were expecting. this shouldn't affect the market too much either so i think they did a rather good job with this. but now i feel somewhat obligated to buy a sentinel riven for each one i dont have just for collection purpose lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon- Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Wait what? Akbolto went down?? why...no one even uses it... AHH My Euphona...my baby...my only reliable weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lluid Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 A dynamic system would be even better, with disposition changing based on monthly community usage, encouraging players to use weapons that nobody uses as well as switching them regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousarchy Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 personally I like this. but I feel this needs to happen more often. it needs to be more organic. while I doubt I can get this every 2 weeks or so. getting this every decent sized update would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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