I think Oberon is i̶n̶ ̶a̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶t̶t̶y̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶s̶p̶o̶t the best frame right now

[Fliktor06]

2 hours ago, An8rchy said:

The arc range imo is still bad, why not make it a 360º circle... 

Also These buffs are more less bug fixes since imo the armor stripping should had already be based on base armor

#MakeReckoningDropHpOrbsOnHit

Turn oberon around and cast the ability again to get your 360 circle.  He can have multiple hallowed grounds out.

 

[Kerberos-3]

Oberon, unfortunately, is the best one can get him with his current themes. Those of you who want him to have a place beyond the garbage can should be calling for the only thing that can save him now. That one solution is for the removal of the Paladin theme from him and a reallocation of focus on his Druid theme. Now, you may be asking why remove the Paladin theme? Simply put, it is far easier to remove the Paladin theme than the Druid theme. Oberon's Paladin theme is basically restricted to his ability set and his bundle in the shop, while everything else points to the Druid theme.

[An8rchy]

1 hour ago, Fliktor06 said:

Turn oberon around and cast the ability again to get your 360 circle.  He can have multiple hallowed grounds out.

that requires 2 casts, y not simplify and just make it a 360 circle cuz it isnt like Oberon is a power hungry frame already or anything *sarcasm intesifies*

[WARLOCKE]

2 hours ago, SenorClipClop said:

Alright, I'll concede that Avalanche is better than Reckoning on a 1-to-1 comparison. But the further down the list of powers you go, (3, 2, 1, passive), Oberon gets swiftly more impressive than Frost.

I dont think Oberon is as bad as everyone makes him out to be but he could use a touch up on his armor and armor buff perhaps a percentile scaling. Al I know is that 400+ armor means little once you get to sortie 3 mobs. Id also like hallowed ground to be a radial effect centered around him. Most grouping in this game is done in PuGs and trying to get a pug to step in hallowed ground is hard. I guess what im getting at is that oberon is pretty good right now esp after his buff to reckoning.

But Frost is a different beast. Frost is a specialist and hes almost unrivaled in those fields. While oberon can only really be compared to equinox.

[Emolition]

16 hours ago, (Xbox One)FCastle74 said:

Megan's posted another Oberon tweed:

-Oberon’s Renewal Armor buff will be applied to allies anytime they step on Hallowed Ground while Renewal is active on them as opposed to them having to be on Hallowed Ground when Renewal hits them. 

How much armor is buffed?

If you play with me I give you around 650 armor and 130 health a second unbuffed. If I get buffed by another frame my record atm is 1136 armor.

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

19 minutes ago, Emolition said:

If you play with me I give you around 650 armor and 130 health a second unbuffed. If I get buffed by another frame my record atm is 1136 armor.

I main Mesa 75% of the time, and with shatter shield that makes me practically invincible...Terminator Nyx move over!! Here come the Punisher  lol (cue Punisher theme):p

Edited May 26, 2017 by (XB1)FCastle74

[(PSN)Lei-Lei_23]

2 hours ago, SenorClipClop said:

Alright, I'll concede that Avalanche is better than Reckoning on a 1-to-1 comparison. But the further down the list of powers you go, (3, 2, 1, passive), Oberon gets swiftly more impressive than Frost.

And since you don't have to deal with Snow Globes blocking your shots or potentially force-suiciding you if you're using explosive-type firearms, I think I'd rather have Oberon than a Frost in a PuG. And Phoenix Renewal is pretty good compared to, say, Icy Avalanche if you want health/backup revive than a damage-mitigating augment.

Edited May 26, 2017 by (PS4)Lei-Lei_23

[(PSN)Lei-Lei_23]

24 minutes ago, WARLOCKE said:

I dont think Oberon is as bad as everyone makes him out to be but he could use a touch up on his armor and armor buff perhaps a percentile scaling. Al I know is that 400+ armor means little once you get to sortie 3 mobs. Id also like hallowed ground to be a radial effect centered around him. Most grouping in this game is done in PuGs and trying to get a pug to step in hallowed ground is hard. I guess what im getting at is that oberon is pretty good right now esp after his buff to reckoning.

But Frost is a different beast. Frost is a specialist and hes almost unrivaled in those fields. While oberon can only really be compared to equinox.

Percentile armor scaling is terrible for supporting glass cannon frames if we're discussing this notion. There's a reason why a flat additive boost was considered and implemented for Oberon's rework, percentile scaling would only support high-armored tank frames and do nothing for low-armored frames

[S0VEREIGNSK]

I also enjoy oberon, DE rework is sucess waiting for another rework in future hmm hmm

[DxAdder]

1 minute ago, System.Lord.Ra said:

I also enjoy oberon, DE rework is sucess waiting for another rework in future hmm hmm

Oberon is the definition of mediocre or a mastery fodder frame.

A  4xCP group with a Trinity and and Mr. Prime goat is worthless.

 

[Hypernaut1]

21 minutes ago, DxAdder said:

Oberon is the definition of mediocre or a mastery fodder frame.

A  4xCP group with a Trinity and and Mr. Prime goat is worthless.

 

Says you. At this point, I think maybe he just doesn't fit your playstyle.

He's becoming one of my favorite frames right now. He can truly be brought to any mission.

[(XBOX)Big Wessss]

I never liked oberon after the first time I built and used him, I'm still uninterested with him till this day. I like to see how people customize his deer lookin @$$ though

[(PSN)Lei-Lei_23]

34 minutes ago, DxAdder said:

Oberon is the definition of mediocre or a mastery fodder frame.

A  4xCP group with a Trinity and and Mr. Prime goat is worthless.

 

As a Blessing Trinity main before her hard nerf to 50m range and simplistic Power Strength to 75% Damage Reduction formula, I'd agree with you. However, with Trinity right now their playstyles are comparable, with Trinity having the edge in the healing department. But as for CC? Trinity only has Well-of-Life and EV. Oberon has Smite and Reckoning, and Reckoning is very good hard CC. Trinity has the edge with EV only because it deals Finisher damage, which is good on single targets where applicable.

I run CP all the time, so I get the whole point regarding armor stripping. But the cast duration in lifting and knocking down enemies with Reckoning is good in my book, along with healing from Renewal not ending at max health Oberon's utility is better than Trinity in this department.

Edited May 26, 2017 by (PS4)Lei-Lei_23

[(PSN)joshw1400]

35 minutes ago, DxAdder said:

Hydroid is the definition of mediocre or a mastery fodder frame.

Except who's gonna play her? Nobody. You know why? Because she's one of the most boring frames to play(no offense Trin mains). And who uses 4xCP all the time. There's a lot more better and fun things to use.

Also FTFY

Edited May 26, 2017 by (PS4)joshw1400

[(PSN)Lei-Lei_23]

5 minutes ago, (PS4)joshw1400 said:

Except who's gonna play her? Nobody. You know why? Because she's one of the most boring frames to play(no offense Trin mains). And who uses 4xCP all the time. There's a lot more better and fun things to use.

Also FTFY

Trinity was fun with her self-damage formula for Blessing prior to her nerf, since it gave Glaives a purpose. Now, while the formula is more simplistic and less conditional-heavy to achieve Damage Reduction (75% as opposed to 95%, which is alright), she is very boring to play unless you craft a Link build to complement Blessing.

The other option to build Trinity is Vampire Leech, which is equally as boring and only targets single enemies on cast.

[Kaotyke]

@Hypernaut1, @(PS4)Lei-Lei_23, He is saying an organized squad with 4 CP or a squad Aura combination that has a low chance of happening in PUGs and a frame that is a dedicated healer with no CC is better than Oberon.

He has no idea what he is talking about or baiting horribly.

[SenorClipClop]

2 hours ago, WARLOCKE said:

he could use a touch up on his armor and armor buff perhaps a percentile scaling. Al I know is that 400+ armor means little once you get to sortie 3 mobs

Iron Renewal, as Lei-Lei mentioned, is better as a flat Armor buff so it can support squishier frames that don't have or build much Armor. Percent Armor would be nice for tanks like Inaros and Chroma, but they don't really need any help in the defense department. Mages like Nyx, Banshee and Mirage make much better use of the help, and flat armor helps them more.

1 hour ago, DxAdder said:

Oberon is the definition of mediocre or a mastery fodder frame.

A  4xCP group with a Trinity and and Mr. Prime goat is worthless.

So you're saying that you don't need Oberon (1 Warframe) if you take a Trinity and 4 Corrosive Projections (1 Warframe and an entire squad co-ordinating their Auras). I'm no math expert, but I believe at this point not taking Oberon means a Tenno is doing more work for less output. Let's also remember that 4 CPs cap out at 90% Armor Reduction, and Oberon can get 100%. And cleanse status. And revive instantly. And CC. And buff Kavat red Crits. And gimp enemy damage.

If you don't like Oberon, that's fine. If you don't know how to play him now, you can learn if you want to. But the argument that he isn't good is no longer valid. Sorry, Tenno.

[SenorClipClop]

1 hour ago, (PS4)Lei-Lei_23 said:

Trinity was fun with her self-damage formula for Blessing prior to her nerf, since it gave Glaives a purpose. Now, while the formula is more simplistic and less conditional-heavy to achieve Damage Reduction (75% as opposed to 95%, which is alright), she is very boring to play unless you craft a Link build to complement Blessing.

The other option to build Trinity is Vampire Leech, which is equally as boring and only targets single enemies on cast.

Just do what I do and build Trin with high Duration, slap on Abating Link if against Armor, and play her as a Channeled melee fighter. ;)

[(PSN)PlagueChild-Inc]

Although Nova is on the squishy side, she does do a bit of heavy damage. I persoanlly love using "Slova" so far she is my main frame. 

Everyone has their own opinion over what the best frame is, I believe it goes with your own fighting style and on personal fighting style.

[xXx_mtv_xXx]

2 hours ago, Emolition said:

If you play with me I give you around 650 armor and 130 health a second unbuffed. If I get buffed by another frame my record atm is 1136 armor.

1136 is nothing for high levels, I don't know why people keep saying he has good armour. I guess they play normal levels only. He can't tank at sortie levels. 

[Ketec]

Felt lackluster. some armor, tiny damage, costly cc, costly heal (+pets, shadows etc should not be healed), worthless passive.

[Emolition]

20 minutes ago, xXx_mtv_xXx said:

1136 is nothing for high levels, I don't know why people keep saying he has good armour. I guess they play normal levels only. He can't tank at sortie levels. 

I guess that why me as oberon is the one running around reviving everyone in sortie for I can't take the damage and stay alive. And in the end stats 90% of the time  I got the most damage taken.

Yeah you can't stand still and face tank damage like the absorb all damage frames can but as long as you keep moving the healing + the auto revive will pretty much keep you up all the time.

[Hypernaut1]

2 hours ago, Emolition said:

I guess that why me as oberon is the one running around reviving everyone in sortie for I can't take the damage and stay alive. And in the end stats 90% of the time  I got the most damage taken.

Yeah you can't stand still and face tank damage like the absorb all damage frames can but as long as you keep moving the healing + the auto revive will pretty much keep you up all the time.

He survives better than most non tank frames. 

People seem to really have trouble understanding the concept of a jack of all trades.

Edited May 26, 2017 by Hypernaut1

[Doomsknightmare]

Broberon, the most controversal frame ever !

I love him ! Now he's decent, not flawless but good enough as a support. And I think his augment mod needs some love too.

[xXx_mtv_xXx]

50 minutes ago, Emolition said:

I guess that why me as oberon is the one running around reviving everyone in sortie for I can't take the damage and stay alive. And in the end stats 90% of the time  I got the most damage taken.

Yeah you can't stand still and face tank damage like the absorb all damage frames can but as long as you keep moving the healing + the auto revive will pretty much keep you up all the time.

Please post your build(s) m8